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Kikas
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Perestroika posted:

So I've recently started playing ranked a bit more (Silver represent ) and I wonder, does the supposed Elo-aspect ever come into play? Because so far it has, without fail, always worked out to: Win a game: Rank Up; Lose a game: Rank down.

It's like that and it decreases with how many matches you play, since the more you play, the more the game assumes you're at "your optimal rank". At the end of the season those 100 rank points turn into a measly 40 per game, up or down. It does give you a bit more if you win against high skilled opponents, but I've surfed the whole Gold rank more then once now, and it's hard to hit someone outside of Gold there. I guess that it just has the most players.

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Also, OP, PUT SOME SIRENS AROUND THAT PART OF THE OP ABOUT THE STARTER EDITION Also that part about everything being buyable with Renown is a lie - there are some skins that are locked behind R6 credits in the shop and can't be bought otherwise. But those are just some silly weapon skins, not operator hats.

Have some art for your trouble:




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Perestroika posted:

It depends on the map. On some maps there are ways to circle around and shoot the attackers in the side or back while they're queued up around the windows. A prime example for that is Clubhouse, where both of the upper-story objective locations give you a prime field of fire on the outside windows of the other, particularly if you have some explosives to open up a wall: https://www.r6maps.com/#club/2/all. On Skyscraper or Border you may be able to hop out onto the balconies and take them in the flank, too, though that can be quite risky if they're attentive. Some objective locations also simply just don't suit themselves all too well for roaming, precisely because there aren't many good flanking options available. In those cases, your best bet might be to just sit just a little ways away from the objective room and open up a new line of fire from an unexpected angle once the attackers make their move.

Last but not least, always try to be aware of your shortest route back to the objective and when you should try to go back. Even when it's not windows, sometimes the rest of your team simply gets overwhelmed by a well-timed push before you can get some good flanking action in. Keep a watch on the killfeed, and if your dudes start dying in quick succession and/or there's a loud ongoing firefight without any attackers dying, start hustling back. Nothing is worse than having been killed as an anchor after a protracted firefight only to see that your two roamers are still on the other side of the map and on the wrong level.

And then you get Theme Park, where your teammates can't hold the 2 windows leading into drug lab (and bathroom) while you roam in trains and suddenly it's a 1v5 and they're capping
I hate that map and it should have left the ranked map pool when Tower was released.

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Jack Trades posted:

Can someone who plays Starter Edition tell me if they have an option to unlock original operators via a bundle R6 coins/real money, the same way you have a bundle to unlock all Year1/Year2 operators?
If yes then how much does it cost?

No, there is no such bundle, but you can buy operators separately for 300 R6 Credits per operator, and you get 600 for buying the starter. There will never be a bundle/upgrade pack/hotfix for the Starter Edition and it's a deliberate decision made by Ubisoft.

Basically DON'T EVER BUY THE STARTER EDITION

To drive this point a bit into the ground, when you buy the Starter, you get to unlock up to 4 operators, but every other operator costs 12 500 Renown or 25 000 Renown each. If you fork up the cash for the Standard edition, you don't get any operators at the start, but you can unlock all the basic operators with only 25 000 Renown (gradually unlocking them one by one), however the DLC ops are still 25 000 each.


As a side note, on any version if you are new to the game you should go into the "Play" tab, click the Tutorials and watch every video - it gives you 200 renown per video, and provides some very basic info on how tyo do stuff. You should also launch the uPlay overlay (Shift + F2), go into "Club Rewards" and find two things - there's another free 200 renown just waiting there for grabs never mind, it's not free, and there's a 24h renown booster, giving you a 100% boost for 24h, and 10% to all your teammates (it stacks, so if you got a new group, try to all launch your boosters at once for maximum profit).


EDIT: Additional info - if you played during the free weekend and got to unlock some operators, that progress WILL NOT BE SAVED ON THE STARTER EDITION, but will be on the Standard Edition.

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I AM BRAWW posted:

Is the AUG or the Commando better for IQ?

The Commando will kill anything it hits, but if you actually want to hit something the AUG is your choice. So it's basically personal preference.

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Abisteen posted:

I bought this game a while back during either a steam sale or a night drinking but never really gave it a shot. The thread title made me laugh, however, and made me want to give the game a try.

I have the standard edition so this morning I was just running through the situations and getting the small bits of renown. I guess I should do all those and pick out a few operators that look cool? I should probably also get a few regular games under my belt before I start ruining goon games?

Good starter operators to buy: Ash, Sledge, Thermite on attack, Rook, Mute, Smoke on defense and Kapkan if you learn the maps a bit. The DLC operators (those that cost 25000 renown) require a bit more map/game knowledge, but it'll be a while till you grind one. When buying ops don't forget to buy scopes for their weapons!
There's no need to wait before playing with goons, just say you're new.

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Admiral Joeslop posted:

I'm pretty sure they patched that out. Not 100%. If they didn't, then yes it is very useful for hearing plants.

That's how I do bandit trick on Chalet, I shoot or ask someone to blast me a hole (shotugn holes scare the attackers) in garage doors and then reinforce over it.

But two shots into a barricade saves your life as an anchor a lot of times.

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HOOLY BOOLY posted:

Reminder that callouts of any kind used to be heard by both sides. IQ finding it if it runs on batteries being one of the most infamous ones actually.

It still happens, I've heard enemy operators talk about reloading more the once over my time of playing Siege.

Deltasquid posted:

It depends on distance, I think. So e.g. if you are right next to Sledge when he breaks a window, you'll hear him whisper, but a teammate on the opposite end of the map will hear him shout.

For some reason IQ switches from whispering to shouting really quickly so taking a step away from her mid-sentence gives you this jarring, sudden shriek

I don't think it depends on distance when you say them IQ alternates between whispers and extreme yelling in first person, now that's hillarous.

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ten_twentyfour posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6/c...ime_fixing_fps/

Lol wtf Ubi. Good to know all those tryhards' anime child porn avatars are being saved to my computer. In 3 different resolutions even, in case I want a really high quality anime.


poo poo


No ubisoft wHY. Why are you doing this to us, this is the exact thing that kills a game, a loving TIMED game mode? This reeks of amateur design and doesn't make me wanna play it at all. Plus the Outbreak mode will probably aslo influence the new Chimera ops and their gadgets and the loving price changes are stupid as hell too nooooooooooooo

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Pfft what you can't even get the Outbreak packs during normal gameplay but have to buy them for as much as an Operator costs in R6 credits? Whoa.

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Jack Trades posted:

Lootboxes suck rear end but...it's just cosmetics, who gives a poo poo.

Given how much of this game is peek combat, relying on intel and spotting people... everyone? This is not a game like Rocket League where everyone has a bright neon over their head so you know where they are at all time. This is a violent game of hide and seek and visibility and being able to identify what's and enemy and what's map-junk is a huge gameplay mechanic. You gently caress with that, you are loving with the gameplay.
How many people threw themselves on the black uniforms when they came out, cause they gave you a bit of an advantage on characters like Frost or IQ? Cause I am seeing a lot more black uniforms then before.

My point is - in Siege, visibility = gameplay, so the cosmetics gently caress with gameplay just a little bit.

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https://rainbow6.ubisoft.com/siege/...ews/detail.aspx WELCOME CHIMERA (it's a sneak peek).

quote:

Biological and chemical attacks are growing threats to Operators. Six created the Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear (CBRN) Threat Unit. CBRN is its own distinct CTU. The following two experts know what they’re doing and they’ll never turn their backs on a hotzone. These two new operators are joining the multiplayer roster and will also be playable in the limited time Outbreak event, along with other legacy operators.

One operator hails from France and uses a drone to maintain quarantine perimeters. Their service record is astounding, but their list of regrets seems endless.

The other operator moved to Russia to pursue their studies and they uncovered a range of applications for self-dissolving nanobots. All allies can benefit from the research carried out by this CBRN Specialist.

So it's a new fake CTU, with two ops from France and Russia, and traditionally, one is female: https://www.instagram.com/p/BelNORennL5/

My guess it's another defender drone, maybe automatic, and the other one gets dissolvable floors.

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https://rainbow6.ubisoft.com/siege/...cm:154-76770-32

I KNEW IT WAS THE GOSH-DANGED ALIENMS

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So we get 3 maps, 2 difficulty settings, and a operator pool limited to:

quote:

This is the list of playable Operators in Outbreak:

• The two new Operation Chimera Operators

• Smoke

• Ying

• Buck

• Kapkan

• Ash

• Doc

• Tachanka

• Glaz

• And last but not least, our faithful Recruit!

That's some decent content, for all the 10 people who will be playing it.

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And I guess this confirms that Year 3 Season 1 will start on the 6th of March, when Outbreak starts too.

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Eh. Going into the hard sci-fi direction with HEALING NANOBOTS isn't something I'd expect this season, I was kinda hoping that the Outbreak event will contain all the bullshit and we're back to realism with the operators, with tripwires or something like that. The Spear does look like if the XM-8 Fishgun was a bullpup which is a weird-rear end design, while I can't say no to a Drum Mag Vector.

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Tumble posted:

Clearly the Australian defender would just put spiders all over the loving place.

Or could use a spider-suit to stick to walls and cealings. I mean if magnet boots were on the next attacker, I'd be cool with that. Limited use, but only drains if you walk, meaning you can't go to extremely high places like main lobby ceiling in Bank, but you can pretend to be Batman in other places forever. Fall damage still applies, unless you land exactly on someone, then he gets full damage and you get half.

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Malcolm Excellent posted:

The Aussie Op would be immune to melee attacks, with the ability to demoralize OP4s choice of Knife for not being "A Knife"

What, does he wield a spoon?

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Yeah but those can't clear a deployable shield + frost/kapkan trap combo from across half the map.

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Thief posted:

giving ash a trajectory to calculate but making her grenades explode on impact would be just as good as when kapkans tripmines were reduced damage but had their lasers removed. in a way its a nerf but it adds to the character in a way that makes playing them more interesting. the slight dig-delay on the current one has saved many defender lives

I actually prefer the dig delay on Ash's launcher cause it means I get a while after shooting to switch to my main gun. With Zofia I always feel so exposed when I blast a wall, cause if I don't kill whatever's behind it, I'm stuck holding my gadget and not my gun, most likely meaning I'm dead.

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Q8ee posted:

nah none taken, reading what you said, I realised I was talking poo poo, there's definitely room for me to improve. I'm just tunnel visioning on most of my deaths which are usually cause of them reacting faster than me, but your advice of roaming more to totally negate that is pretty good.

on the topic of roaming, I find I'm too scared to roam cause I'm so paranoid about making noise. I know footsteps from normal walking are quite loud. how difficult is it for an opponent to hear me if I'm alt-walking / crouching? do they need to be right near me to pick up the sounds? when I look around or reload, are those noises audible quite clearly, or does the opponent have to be very close to me?

Unless you have a shield or 3 armor, alt-walking is so silent the sound might not even be there.

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Thief posted:

because of the sheer amount of comedy option skins available in this game your best bet is to just use silhouettes as a guide.

i still can't tell Vigil apart from a recruit.

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I AM BRAWW posted:

(...) get Sledge a Jack Nicholson from the Shining outfit.(...)

Welp time to bust out that wallet.

I love how Finka gets Ela mine resistance but not Echo resistance, like that makes any sense. Ela will probably be still OP, but I like how they're adding a lot more counters and interactions, I hope they continiue to do so, maybe even for existing operators.

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Azran posted:

Unlocks:

-All weapon attachments will now be automatically unlocked when you purchase an operator

-You will get all 20 standard ops with when you buy the STANDARD edition

Servers:

-2 new data centers in South Africa and south Europe

-Servers have been getting more stable throughout the last Year

Pick and ban and round flow:

-Ban Phase: Both teams ban 1 attacker and 1 defender

-You now play 5 attacking rounds, then a half time and then 5 defending rounds.

-Enemies can now see what OPs you pick, and apperently you can "fake" a pick

Maps:

-Hereford Base is completely reworked, will come back Season 3. More stairs, they want to make all OBJ viable picks and move the OBJ away from windows for more indoor firefights. Completely new Art Design.

-Yacht will come back as casual map

-Bomb is now their main gamemode to design maps around, maps in the future will be bigger

-Club house will get MAJOR reworks, there will be a new room on the roof between cash room and bedroom, bar will be sectorized with new walls and a bathroom and a stairway underneath garage. Will get implemented maybe Season 2.

-One map buff per Season.

eSports:

-New Roadmap: https://imgur.com/a/2idJu
-Pro League now 6 months.

-4 Dreamhack Minors

-Major in Paris in August

These go live with season 2 or y3s1?

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WirelessPillow posted:

Do we get our money back from when we bought the operators?

Yeah i want my one full DLC operator refund so I can buy Echo and own everyone when this season comes around.

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https://rainbow6.ubisoft.com/siege/...mera/index.aspx check out for yourself in these sweet sweet patch notes!

they didn't

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So there are two things that appear to be unmentioned but they are present on the TTS.
First is that all operator icons had a visual overhaul, making them higher contrast. A good change and it makes the CTUs more distinct from one another.


The second is that now when opening skins, the recruit icon is there as well, so maybe recruits are getting attachments this year.

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Maybe they'll introduce map-specific operators at some point.

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If you're looking for good guns, then the Jackal AR is just for you.

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Well after Outbreak drops, when you buy an operator you'll get all the weapon sights, grips and underbarrel stuff for free, and there's no word confirming that there'll be refunds for people who bought any of that stuff prior to the update. So there's one incentive to wait.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6/c...oku&sh=2b50e025 Esport ready everyone

Chimera deploys in 4 hours on PC.

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Perestroika posted:

"You don't have to buy Outbreak loot packs, you can just unlock them by completing weekly Outbreak-challenges!"

"We haven't actually included any of those for the first week."



Oh, really? I thought the outbreak packs were R6 cash only.

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mp5 posted:

geez Lion and Finka are both incredible and stupid overpowered for different reasons

Finka removes everyone's recoil so Ying/Fuze/Lion's LMGs become 80 bullet laser guns

It's sickening how well she comboes with Blitz, especially since that dude is now really fast and effective. I've also learned that a silent step Cav has no third person animation for being flashed, thank God "running into the walls like a retard" is a nice sign of "oh no my eyes".

We've also had a bug where, as the defenders, we injured the hostage and won cause he bled out lol.

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Guys, in case you're even playing outbreak, but have trouble with the big loving rushing Tank thing, fret no more - if you manage to fool him into rushing in a wall, you can run up to his back and smack his poo poo with melee.

Now you probably knew this - but, if like me and every single one of my friends had trouble doing so, the reason might be simple - you CANNOT use any other button than "v" to hit the Smasher with your knife. So if you remapped that to say, any of your mouse thumb buttons and got 200 hours of muscle memory that melee is "mouse 4", you might be having some problems.

Especially since the prompt will show your mapped melee button, but the game won't accept anything other then "v"

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Admiral Joeslop posted:

Someone on the other team probably tried picking the hostage up before getting yelled at, which switches who injured them.

No, really not. I mean we tried to do so, but our guy was killed when trying to revive the hostage - would that switch sides?

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"CommieLyncher91 was banned due to Toxic Behaviour"
It keeps happening.

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I've just had the most butt clenching game, down one player we turned a 0-3 into a 5-3 This is why I've been playing this game for over a year now, moments like this.

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Minrad posted:

the russian LMG and the german AUG are alright with silencer. I think people slap it on frost's 9mm just cuz as well.

It does reduce the stk on Forst, but it makes it laser accurate and it also removes tracers, so the person you're shooting at doesn't get an idea of your location until you hit them.

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Huh, I've had a match simply not count. At the end of it there was some server hiccup, and we all got 0 renown, the party system fell apart and our chances for alpha packs were all dropped to zero. After restarting the game it appeared we kept out rank, renown and alpha pack chance like the match didn't count.

Which was cool cause we got owned

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Yeah they did try to mix the challeges up this season which is nice.

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