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Again, I would love to see a way for brands to benefit unarmed. I wanna go tso and have holy fists of justice.
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PMush Perfect posted:How hard would hand wraps be to implement? Hand wraps as a weapon that scales off unarmed? Probably as hard as implementing hammers again (with maybe a little extra code if Unarmed needs to be made a proper weapon class instead of just being melee with no weapon). Brands could probably be easy to add to that as well. Just allowing brands on bare hands? Probably going to require massive reworking of either hands or the branding code to allow, or creating some super sketchy workaround of making infinite duration buffs to represent hand brands.
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Jan 8, 2018 21:59
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Hand Wraps it is, then.
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Heithinn Grasida posted:Now that I finished coding my spell (or at least the draft version of it), I want to work on something the thread chooses. It can't be a huge project or really difficult and I might veto things that clearly exceed my ability or that I just really, really hate for whatever reason. I'm most interested in working on spells, but I could try other stuff too. My own suggestions are:
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here's a hosed up suggestion: make the lernaean hydra, the hell lords, the unique pan lords, the seraph, and the royal jelly butcher into one teal chunk that you can eat for a beneficial mutation
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Unarmed shouldn't be allowed to benefit from brands. Unarmed is absurdly strong at high skill levels. The trade off to using it supposed to be that it takes a long time to master and you don't benefit from brands. Making unarmed another weapon type that is reliant upon loot to reach its full effectiveness would just take away its unique aspects.
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Samog posted:here's a hosed up suggestion: make the lernaean hydra, the hell lords, the unique pan lords, the seraph, and the royal jelly butcher into one teal chunk that you can eat for a beneficial mutation 
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Jan 8, 2018 22:47
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Samog posted:here's a hosed up suggestion: make the lernaean hydra, the hell lords, the unique pan lords, the seraph, and the royal jelly butcher into one teal chunk that you can eat for a beneficial mutation This is a cool idea, kind of like gross, eats the flesh of his enemies, Megaman.
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Internet Kraken posted:Unarmed shouldn't be allowed to benefit from brands. Unarmed is absurdly strong at high skill levels. The trade off to using it supposed to be that it takes a long time to master and you don't benefit from brands. Making unarmed another weapon type that is reliant upon loot to reach its full effectiveness would just take away its unique aspects. Comedy option: only have one and it's chaos
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Jan 8, 2018 23:33
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Transmutations is basically brands for unarmed anyways.
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Jan 8, 2018 23:48
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Oh poo poo I forgot about the tournament. Is it too late to get in on a team?
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Fr: handwraps that dont gently caress with claws and stuff like trolls and ghouls. I mean clearly ghouls cant use holy handwraps but a ghoul clawing and punching poo poo to death with flaming fists sound so cool I must have it. Edit: Oh poo poo, what about octopodes if we do that? Can they have like, handwraps of each element on or something insane?
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Captainsalami posted:Fr: handwraps that dont gently caress with claws and stuff like trolls and ghouls. I mean clearly ghouls cant use holy handwraps but a ghoul clawing and punching poo poo to death with flaming fists sound so cool I must have it. That's an idea. Make the handwraps a ring. Like brass knuckles.
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Worthleast posted:That's an idea. Make the handwraps a ring. Like brass knuckles. Hmm, wait, i'm dumb. If its just a weapon slot then theres no problem. Not like theres dual wielding in this game anyway. The easy way would be just adding a weapon with a brand damage on it that offers no bonuses besides the good damage unarmed already does.
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Samog posted:here's a hosed up suggestion: make the lernaean hydra, the hell lords, the unique pan lords, the seraph, and the royal jelly butcher into one teal chunk that you can eat for a beneficial mutation this idea is really good and i support the thought of uniques in general providing guaranteed good mutations
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Just make the wrappings accept god-brands only and not any plusses.
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Yes. Kinda. Scroll of Brand Weapon gives a random brand weighted towards fire & cold, then vorpal, then poison and others.
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Also this fork will actually make me wanna play again. Nothing wrong with a roguelike having stupid races that are too easy or too hard, they just need to be fun. I loved lava orcs and djinni cause they were unique at least.
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Didn't one version of WJC give brands to unarmed back when the capstone power was to summon a divine weapon? If someone really wants to add brands to unarmed attacks, maybe Steel Neuron could help. But unarmed really doesn't need a buff. At all. If it had easy access to brands it would be unquestionably and absolutely superior to every other weapon skill. What keeps it in check is that in order to get brands, you have to invest a lot into casting spells that all typically come with major drawbacks attached. Letting TSO bless your fists probably wouldn't be that huge a game breaker, since holy wrath isn't that big of a deal until extended anyway and a no transmutations unarmed character of TSO is a really weak build. Letting Kiku bloody your fists with pain would break the game right in half. I think an unrand ring that gives the holy wrath brand to unarmed would be better. Or if you really, really want unarmed brands, you could make some kind of spell like "charms/transmutations 5: annointed fists" that reduces unarmed damage, but adds a brand that scales with piety and invocations and deals extra damage depending on your god. Personally, I think that sounds cool, but overly complex. If a bunch of people want something like that, though, I could try to code it.
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So, I may have accidentally broken something by trying to put Singularity back in. Now every enemy is surrounded by translocational energy: E: Good news, I stopped turning everything purple. Bad news, singularities will only last a single turn before imploding. Coding is hard 
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Quick, someone post that gif of 'I kick rear end for the lord" from that dumb horror movie with a priest punching zombies to death.
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Captainsalami posted:Quick, someone post that gif of 'I kick rear end for the lord" from that dumb horror movie with a priest punching zombies to death. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfkHkdu5IEI have a video
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Yes, this is exactly why I want branded fists.
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Just allow gloves to be branded and to come with brands. The brand only works if you're hitting unarmed.
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Heithinn Grasida posted:. Letting Kiku bloody your fists with pain would break the game right in half. counterpoint
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redneck nazgul posted:Just allow gloves to be branded and to come with brands. The brand only works if you're hitting unarmed. Gloves currently can only provide a slaying addition to melee/ranged attacks. Having them provide brands (which are an inherent part of weapons when calculating damage) would likely be as difficult as giving bare hands a brand. It also can lead to other problems, like what happens when you are swinging a branded weapon while wearing branded gloves (and if they are unarmed only, where to put all the edge cases in the attack code to exclude it)? On another note, I'll likely close the Healing Evocable poll sometime today, since votes have slowed down and it has a decent amount of participation. The Blades of Disaster PR poll is still looking slim, so please go vote if you haven't already!
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All right, gently caress it I'm gonna start coding for this to help. All I know is FORTRAN77 though, I'm guessing C is basically the same thing?
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pathetic little tramp posted:All right, gently caress it I'm gonna start coding for this to help. All I know is FORTRAN77 though, I'm guessing C is basically the same thing? C++. Might have to do a little light reading to catch up, nothing too bad.
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So what would it take to have online tiles of this fork like cao?
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BrandorKP posted:So what would it take to have online tiles of this fork like cao? I just have to ask the server admin if they are willing to host it. Even if one is willing, it likely won't happen until after the tournament.
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Are you keeping a list of implemented and planned deviations from .21? I didn't see anything obvious on the github page, besides just digging through commits. About time someone started forking back in things that are cool and good.
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Everyone go vote for my spell! Or against it, but if so, let me know what you don't like about the idea. To remind you, it's a short term buff that causes you to summon "disaster prisms" (very similar to fulminant prisms) on melee hits. After the buff runs out, you have two turns to get out of the way, then the prisms explode. It's supposed to be a strong, but situational and risky force multiplier that helps out blaster / melee hybrids. I've brainstormed three poison spells to work on. No promises about how much I'll get done, tell me what you particularly like or don't like about any of the spells. Level 3 poison - Acid Backlash. Wreathes the caster in a sheath of highly pressurized acid. If the caster's blood is drawn, the blood reacts with the sheath and unleashes a retaliatory spray of acid against the attacker. The acid isn't corrossive enough to degrade equipment, but the spray is caustic, disorienting and hideously painful, making it much more difficult for attackers to land subsequent hits. The sheath is produced with a certain number of charges, and when the last charge is used up, the spell expires. (Per I am Otis' suggestion. The retaliation doesn't blind, but does reduce accuracy by a lot, which means this should be a fairly potent defensive spell against melee enemies as long as you can take one hit first) Level 5 Hexes/Poison - Leash of Anguish. Latches onto the essence of a creature and pours out hatred, fear and anger towards it. The flood of emotion manifests as a beam of potent acid, damaging and corroding all those caught between the caster and the target continuously for several turns. The target itself is unaffected by the spell. (shamelessly ripped off from the spell "Antipathetic Field" in Pillars of Eternity) Level 6 Hexes/Translocations/Poison - Astral Venom. Unleashes a spray of horrific magical venom that exposes the targets to the raw, unfiltered power of the abyss. A number of terrible things could happen to the subject as long as it's afflicted by the venom. The venom's magic infects the substance of anything animate and capable of attacking the caster, regardless of whether it's living or dead, corporeal or incorporeal. (Using Dazzling Spray's targeting per Tollymain's suggestion. I actually don't want a bunch of poison spells that all cause corrosion, I'd rather it be a rare effect that isn't easy to apply directly to prevent every character from wanting to learn poison magic. This is a triple school poison spell that doesn't actually do poison damage. I intend this spell to be really strong and a good incentive to go into poison and pick up other poison spells if you find it)
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FR: name this fork Dungeon Crawl: Goon Soup
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Cholfo posted:Are you keeping a list of implemented and planned deviations from .21? I didn't see anything obvious on the github page, besides just digging through commits. I moved it into docs/gooncrawl. As a quick summary, I'm just going to hold off on merging major feature changes/additions/removals (which is based on my discretion). Anything minor/bug fixes/UI related (that isn't major, like LOS changes) will just get auto-merged unless I notice complaints about it (ex. I reverted the cacodemon tile back to being fatties after seeing some complaints about it, and I can merge the new one in if people FR for it to have the new tile instead).
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i like the new tiles i've seen, except for wights (they just don't look good) and the TSO altar (the pun is stupid and so is the reason for the change)
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