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I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

"Why yes, this is a tie with dollar signs on it.

Jealous?"

VJeff posted:

Run a fan poll for who gets the shot, Jay White vs Naito.

Fan polls have historically not been good for Naito

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harperdc
Jul 24, 2007





It also looks like they’re building a Suzuki-gun vs LIJ war, and hey, that would be fun for the IC belt.

I’d forgotten that none of the G1 winners have taken the case to Tokyo Dome and succeeded, so yeah, it’ll be Go Ace and he’ll probably drop it at MSG. But even plotting that out, wow, that should be memorable.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009


It also gives Tanahashi a greater lead in the one record he still holds over Okada with the title: Most reigns. (Okada already has longest single run, longest combined time as champ and most defences in a single reign)

Your Parents
Jul 19, 2017

Thank Travis for Travis!

#1 McElboy Fan


Benne posted:

Except Naito doesn't have a claim to the briefcase like Jay White (only one who beat Tana) and Okada (draw+Tana wants to beat him) do, so why would they even make that match?

Because he'll pin Tanahashi in a tag match and demand a singles shot at the case obviously.

Jenkem Delivery
Feb 8, 2005

Death created time to grow the things that it would kill

I don't think they'd do an IWGP heavyweight title change outside of Japan, even if it is MSG

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

#RXT REVOLUTION~!
2000



future scoopin'...


I feel like having Kenny lose at the dome to anyone but Okada or Naito would be a big mistake. After making the quest to beat Okada so long and desperate and involve this incredibly emotional and backstory-heavy face turn through Ibushi, losing the belt on the biggest stage of the year to the guy who's already passed the torch just rubs me the wrong way, no matter how much I like Tana.

But it could be worth it if Kenny were the first man to ever win the IGWP title on Foreign soil in a forum as historic as the Garden. It would be New Japan showing in the biggest way possible just how serious they are about western expansion.

I dunno, I'm torn.

sigmachiev
Dec 31, 2007

Fighting blood excels

Sanguinia posted:

I feel like having Kenny lose at the dome to anyone but Okada or Naito would be a big mistake. After making the quest to beat Okada so long and desperate and involve this incredibly emotional and backstory-heavy face turn through Ibushi, losing the belt on the biggest stage of the year to the guy who's already passed the torch just rubs me the wrong way, no matter how much I like Tana.

But it could be worth it if Kenny were the first man to ever win the IGWP title on Foreign soil in a forum as historic as the Garden. It would be New Japan showing in the biggest way possible just how serious they are about western expansion.

I dunno, I'm torn.

Im always team kenny, but Tana winning at the Dome and defending at the Garden is a pretty wonderful way for him to enter the post prime and settle back down to the upper midcard. I like it.

TriffTshngo
Mar 28, 2010



I like Tanahashi a lot so I want him to win the championship at the big wrestling event. I feel like I've achieved some sort of internet wrestling fan equilibrium where I'm back to unironically cheering for the smiling good guy with no caveats or asterisks.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

Sanguinia posted:

I feel like having Kenny lose at the dome to anyone but Okada or Naito would be a big mistake. After making the quest to beat Okada so long and desperate and involve this incredibly emotional and backstory-heavy face turn through Ibushi, losing the belt on the biggest stage of the year to the guy who's already passed the torch just rubs me the wrong way, no matter how much I like Tana.

But it could be worth it if Kenny were the first man to ever win the IGWP title on Foreign soil in a forum as historic as the Garden. It would be New Japan showing in the biggest way possible just how serious they are about western expansion.

I dunno, I'm torn.

None of this is as important as the Ace air guitaring in the middle of the building he's wanted to wrestle in his whole life

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

#RXT REVOLUTION~!
2000



future scoopin'...


I just remembered that 3(?) years ago when I was living in Japan I very nearly booked a vacation to Osaka just to see Kenny and Tana wrestle only for it to be denied by injury. Granted, that was going to be an absolutely unprecedented Ladder Match. Still, I'm happy it's going to happen on such a grand stage regardless of my reservations about Tana's potential victory.

Your Boy Fancy
Feb 7, 2003

Slack-jawed, but you'll never be passing it on

In the interrupting time between new wrestling, me and a buddy watched Power Struggle 2013. Thoughts:

  • A younger Young Bucks against a Taka/Taichi team where OH MY GOD TAICHI'S HAIR. Majestic floof.

  • Stardust Genius Naito's ring intro includes him doing the Yoshi-Hashi "BUUUUUUUUUH" arms-out exclamation and it never fails to make me laugh. It's the universal sign of being a dingus. Also, Tanaka just brutalizes him. Naito can take some damage, and I wish his offense made that make sense.

  • Ishii / Tanahashi showing off both guys being brilliant, though I'd argue both of them are actually better now than they were then. Ishii's timing and sense of the moment are unparalleld; Tana rose to the tough-and-hard occasion and got down and dirty. Magical stuff, regardless.

  • Oh my god, Prince Devitt. Oh, that jacket. And now I almost get Bad Luck Fale; he and Devitt had chemistry, y'all. Fale needs his best friend back. Original Bullet Club has a fantastic sense of fury to it.

  • If you don't understand Karl Anderson in WWE, it's because he left all his charisma in Japan. He exudes more personality in the first half of his title match with Okada than his entire run in America to date. I'm picturing Anderson doing the Firing Squad angle instead of Tama Tonga, and it works so much better in my head.

  • Also, this is the show where Naito's infamous title challenge happens. His emergence, followed by the icy, oppressive silence that lingers all the way to the ring, is absolutely sickening in its discomfort. You can see it in Naito's eyes that he's hosed. You can see in Okada's eyes that Naito's hosed. Like, every backfired WWE moment has zero impact in comparison to the Naito challenge at the Dome. I even realized halfway through the show that Oh My God, This Is THAT Show, and knowing it's going to happen doesn't make it any easier to stomach. My wife doesn't watch wrestling, but she's a theater girl through and through; I described it as a rising actor finally getting his starring role and bombing in his debut, and the feeling you'd feel from that. She got it. I showed her the clip, and even SHE felt ill. I'm legitimately impressed that Naito has come to where he is; that sort of moment in someone's life could destroy everything.

If you have a couple of hours to kill and want to see the prelude to what you're dealing with now - all the major players, the early days of a glorious faction, and arguably the most important failure you'll ever witness - seek out Power Struggle 2013 on World. It's a good time.

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The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005

icy chain with the watch now


TriffTshngo posted:

I like Tanahashi a lot so I want him to win the championship at the big wrestling event. I feel like I've achieved some sort of internet wrestling fan equilibrium where I'm back to unironically cheering for the smiling good guy with no caveats or asterisks.

It’s called “booking a smiling babyface right” and it’s understandable to be slightly confused about “he’s a bit of a Boy Scout type of character, but I’m... 100% fine with this? And want him to go all the way?” since WWE hasn’t done it well since...

... have they ever been good at it?

Of course part of it is that Tanahashi is one of the all-time greats so of course it works, Tanahashi can make almost anything work and if it doesn’t he’ll play air guitar and you’ll forget whatever went wrong

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