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Cavauro posted:the big scoop on this is that NJPW wanted to pay jericho a certain amount and jericho wanted a higher amount but they didn't want to pay it and the two parted ways in that negotiation without burning bridges unnecessarily. Big, if true.
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I legitimately think it may have been the best match I've ever seen Chris Jericho have. Maybe the HBK match at Wrestlemania 19 was a little better, but Jericho/Omega was absolutely incredible.
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That match was so well constructed and paced. To this day I have no clue how long it was because I was so wrapped up in it.
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Apr 18, 2018 04:22
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My gut says the Naito match isn't worth Tokyo Dome money from NJ's perspective, but from Jericho's perspective he's justified in thinking he earned another big payday. Can't really fault either side if that's one of the big hang ups.
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Apr 18, 2018 04:40
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New Japan's massive 2018 expansion was almost immediately cut back on too
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sigmachiev posted:My gut says the Naito match isn't worth Tokyo Dome money from NJ's perspective, but from Jericho's perspective he's justified in thinking he earned another big payday. Can't really fault either side if that's one of the big hang ups. Yeah I doubt Jericho was eager to take a paycut if he was just gonna eat another pin (Naito can't really lose that match) The Kenny program did great business but I can see if both sides are wary about diminishing returns
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Apr 18, 2018 06:51
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Is this the reason NJPW is seemingly doubling down on Mysterio matches?
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rovert posted:New Japan's massive 2018 expansion was almost immediately cut back on too What the hell. I know you're making big card game money, Bushiroad, open up the drat wallet. 
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rovert posted:New Japan's massive 2018 expansion was almost immediately cut back on too
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VJeff posted:What the hell. I know you're making big card game money, Bushiroad, open up the drat wallet. Card games are on the decline, actually. The push Bushiroad is making now is mobile games (through Bushimo) and developing cross-media anime/live event franchises (Revue Starlight is their current swing at that; it stars several people who, through their internal talent agency HiBiKi, are basically Bushiroad employees, such as Maybe Future Mrs. Okada Mimori Suzuko and former joshi Aina Aiba; they ran it as a stage show over two days back in September and if the anime is a hit I imagine they'll tour that stage show around the country). Running an LA dojo and doing multiple New Japan shows a year across the Pacific can get real expensive, real fast, so with their old money maker beginning to dive, it wouldn't be too surprising if they pulled back on it until they know they're in a better spot financially/TV Asahi gives them that better timeslot they're considering. I would imagine that the thing that stopped them from pulling that plug was looking at the merch sales and the repeated suggestions from vendors that "yeah you could pull like ten thousand people to a show" in the US, which makes the expense worth it. It's a bit of a "this is a rare shot we have" moment that they really have to strike on.
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rovert posted:New Japan's massive 2018 expansion was almost immediately cut back on too Can you expand on this? Do you mean the talk about them doing a US brand?
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I think the original plan was to do regular West Coast tours featuring mostly Western talent (and which the US belt was clearly created for), but that's obviously gone by the wayside. Maybe they looked at their travel receipts after the first Long Beach show and got second thoughts. In any case, they seem to have pivoted to just doing big houses like Cow Palace as a one-off and leaving it at that.
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There’s also visa concerns which are getting harder to get approved thanks to US immigration policy going stupid. Also economic anxiety in the US is increasing so a lot of fun money isn’t getting spent. NJPW is correct in being concerned about losing their shirts trying to tour an increasingly xenophobic nation.
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Running a bigger west coast venue a few times a year is probably a safer bet until they can establish a stronger foothold in the US. Taking a conservative strategy is smart until they get a bigger TV or some other large cash influx to drive expansion Not to mention WWE doesn't currently view them as a threat. Going for a more aggressive expansion will likely raise Vince's ire and that is especially dangerous for them considering how connected the McMahons are to the Trump Administration. Linda could easily make some calls and they'd suddenly find their visas revoked. Pinche Rudo fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Apr 18, 2018 |
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coconono posted:There’s also visa concerns which are getting harder to get approved thanks to US immigration policy going stupid. Visa and likely tax concerns for some of the foreign talent too. Somebody like Juice, who stays overseas most of the year, would be much more impacted by living 50/50 than the foreign talent.
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https://twitter.com/realkevinkelly/status/986413855143231488?s=19 Kevin Kelly investigating the Showbuckle takedown.
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Kevin Kelly gonna emerge from a bathhouse well with a KA-BAR clenched between his teeth to visit hot death upon his arch nemesis Shinpei Nogami.
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Benne posted:I think the original plan was to do regular West Coast tours featuring mostly Western talent (and which the US belt was clearly created for), but that's obviously gone by the wayside. Baron Corbyn posted:https://twitter.com/realkevinkelly/status/986413855143231488?s=19 
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Kevin's on the kase!
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Kevin Kelly is the only person who knew about the videos and had them taken down so that he could play the hero and publicly 'look into it'. contemptible mongrel
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Cavauro posted:Kevin Kelly is the only person who knew about the videos and had them taken down so that he could play the hero and publicly 'look into it'. contemptible mongrel Jet fuel can't melt steel chairs
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https://twitter.com/realkevinkelly/status/986641490838466561 According to Kelly, NJPW didn't take them down. Sounds like some kind of automated thing.
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They didn't take them down because it was him
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he should have sipped the coffee into his mouth then spat it on to jake the snake instead, people love that
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VJeff posted:https://twitter.com/realkevinkelly/status/986641490838466561 Yeah, there's been some issues on youtube caused by third party companies whose job it is to enforce IP for clients issuing C&Ds to licensed channels or channels of the original artist who the work comes from. I remember one dude had to threaten to sue a cable television channel to get them to stop issuing a C&D for something from his YouTube that they aired on their channel.
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Yeah YouTube algorithms are also all sorts of hosed up too. NJPW should just host Showbuckle videos on their YouTube channel and pay him to make them :-D.
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Strawberry Panda posted:Yeah YouTube algorithms are also all sorts of hosed up too. For real. The man does good work and it allows them to give further context to their angles and company without having to have a whole video department like WWE does (although they do wonderful work)
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Strawberry Panda posted:Yeah YouTube algorithms are also all sorts of hosed up too. There's this thing called kayfabe though
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Rarity posted:There's this thing called kayfabe though Most of Showbuckle's videos adhere to kayfabe, though, describing, say, the Golden Lovers history through the characters of Kota and Kenny. I think if NJPW was interested in doing English video packages to promote matches for international audiences, they could do worse than picking Showbuckle up to help write them.
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Baron Corbyn posted:Henare vs Tomohiro Ishii has been added to the card on the 24th
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revised cards: ROAD TO WRESTLING DONTAKU April 23rd at 5:30 EDT/10:30 BST Korakuen Hall Ren Narita vs. Yota Tsuji Yuji Nagata, Hiroyoshi Tenzan, and Manabu Nakanishi vs. Tomoyuki Oka, Shota Umino, and Tetsuhiro Yagi Roppongi 3K vs. Suzuki-gun (Takashi Iizuka, Taichi, and TAKA Michinoku) Juice, Makabe, Elgin, Henare, and KUSHIDA vs. CHAOS (Goto, Ishii, Yano, Y-H, and Ospreay Hiroshi Tanahashi, David Finlay, and Ryusuke Taguchi vs. CHAOS (Kazuchika Okada, Jay White and Gedo) L.I.J (Tetsuya Naito, EVIL, and SANADA) vs. Suzuki-gun (Minoru Suzuki and KES) IWGP Jr Heavyweight Tag Team Championship:Suzuki-gun(c) (Yoshinobu Kanemaru and El Desperado) vs. L.I.J (Hiromu Takahashi and BUSHI) ROAD TO WRESTLING DONTAKU April 24th at 5:30 EDT/10:30 BST Korakuen Hall Hiroyoshi Tenzan, Shota Umino, and Ren Narita vs. Yuji Nagata, Tomoyuki Oka, and Tetsuhiro Yagi Roppongi 3K vs. Suzuki-gun (Takashi Iizuka, Taichi, and TAKA Michinoku) Togi Makabe, Michael Elgin, and KUSHIDA vs. CHAOS (Toru Yano, YOSHI-HASHI, and Will Ospreay) Toa Henare vs. Tomohiro Ishii L.I.J vs. Suzuki-gun (Suzuki, KES, Kanemaru, and Despy) Hiroshi Tanahashi, Juice Robinson, and Ryusuki Taguchi vs. CHAOS (Kazuchika Okada, Hirooki Goto, and Gedo) IWGP US Championship:Jay White(c) vs. David Finlay
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NJPW not even batting an eye at DBS Jr’s law troubles is concerning. I’d heard there was a scuffle but that it was just that, a scuffle. No idea Roberts was pressing charges.
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coconono posted:NJPW not even batting an eye at DBS Jr’s law troubles is concerning. I’d heard there was a scuffle but that it was just that, a scuffle. No idea Roberts was pressing charges. theyre like the only promotion booking michael elgin in the whole world right now.
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coconono posted:NJPW not even batting an eye at DBS Jr’s law troubles is concerning. I’d heard there was a scuffle but that it was just that, a scuffle. No idea Roberts was pressing charges. I mean, it's a misdemeanor. He'll most likely pay a 1000 dollar fine and that'll be it.
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So a few days ago, I posted this:frankenfreak posted:Watching the Lions Gate show, I'm already impressed by Yuya Uemura. What do these two matches have in common? The opponent, Ren Narita.
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