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Callis is bad if they want to get out to a more casual western audience. His entire persona is insufferable smark and its a turn off for more casual fans.
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I don't mind Callis but he probably should tone down his act and I actually really liked Rocky as a whole. Plus the Rocky paradise lock spot was amazing
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I think it's smart that Rocky as a color commentator has a clear affiliation in CHAOS. Gives him a reason to have an opinion on every participant of any given match and always has an angle, whether you want to agree with his perspective or not. Also without that affiliation we would never have gotten Pro Wrestling Moment Of The Year 2018: SANADA putting the loving headset back on him
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Putting Chris Charlton on the desk is an odd choice if you're after more casual fans.
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He's a good announcer who can fill people in on the history they don't know and does the best translations they have had.
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Hiroshi Tanahashi is so loving good.
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Charlton is actually a great choice for casual fans as he brings up the history needed to get the extra meaning to the matches. It's alot like how an in Prime John Madden did with football break downs when he was commentating Edit: Also from the sounds of it looks like Dave me be thinking of having Tana/Ibushi break 5 stars which is deserving of the Ace of the Universe SatoshiMiwa fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Aug 12, 2018 |
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Gimme Kevin Kelly and Chase Owens and I'd be a happy man.
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Keep your politicking out of PSP 
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go ace
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I'll only listen to English commentary when Chuck Taylor is there
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Charlton is actually a great choice for casual fans as he brings up the history needed to get the extra meaning to the matches. It's alot like how an in Prime John Madden did with football break downs when he was commentating More importantly, someone on the desk who can interpret the promos.
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extradite THIS! posted:I think it's smart that Rocky as a color commentator has a clear affiliation in CHAOS. Gives him a reason to have an opinion on every participant of any given match and always has an angle, whether you want to agree with his perspective or not. Callis is technically BC Elite affiliated because of Omega. It is amusing to note that no matter their affiliation, every colour commentator loves Tana.
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Rarity posted:The less I have to hear Callis massage his own ego and horn over women the better 
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Rarity posted:The less I have to hear Callis massage his own ego and horn over women the better Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA. Wait a minute! Hold the phone! Hang on a second! .....NJPW has women in it???
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fart blood posted:Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA. Wait a minute! Hold the phone! Hang on a second! Uh yeah, Chyna and Inoki ran the women's revolution 16 years ago! https://www.spreaker.com/episode/15477535
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MassRafTer posted:Uh yeah, Chyna and Inoki ran the women's revolution 16 years ago! https://www.spreaker.com/episode/15477535 "Vince Russo booked Chyna better than Inoki" is like the biggest burn in the history of anything SatoshiMiwa fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Aug 13, 2018 |
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Benne posted:... how did Chyna end up getting a New Japan run? Japan MMA had long established its dominance in the realm of freakshow fights, so its natural that Inoki would emulate. I thought the Chono match was decent but hardly Chyna or Chono's best work. I've been out of the loop, did Okada really part ways with Gedo?
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coconono posted:Japan MMA had long established its dominance in the realm of freakshow fights, so its natural that Inoki would emulate. I thought the Chono match was decent but hardly Chyna or Chono's best work. Yep. Amicable break up, basically Gedo just isn't coming out with Okada to the ring anymore. I'll miss "Cmon Rainmaker cmon!" but other than that I like the direction.
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Yeah, I liked the pairing but it's run its course by now. I think they only used Gedo as a mouthpiece at first because they didn't trust Okada with live promos, but that's clearly not the case anymore.
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coconono posted:Japan MMA had long established its dominance in the realm of freakshow fights, so its natural that Inoki would emulate. I thought the Chono match was decent but hardly Chyna or Chono's best work. Even before the MMA boom Inoki always leaned more towards freak show booking. He just didn't go as far or had enough talent to hide it. Like the 2000's is considered the peak of bad Inoki booking but even in the late 90's you could see bad looking like having Hashimoto lose a retirement match because Ionki was worried the result got out (and had to have Hashimoto walk back on it which killed his drawing power a bit). Inoki was always bad and just got carried by the fact he had great talent.
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Have they ever done G1 qualifying matches before? It would be a fun way to mix up the competitors a bit and give the lower card guys featured singles matches on some of the Road To shows.
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Chinston Wurchill posted:Have they ever done G1 qualifying matches before? It would be a fun way to mix up the competitors a bit and give the lower card guys featured singles matches on some of the Road To shows. They did a qualifying tournament for the BOTSJ in 2005 and then ignored the result even though their lovely hand picked guy won it. I don't believe they have for the G1.
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This week's free YouTube match is a rather odd choice -- Naito vs. Masato Tanaka from Destruction 2013, smack dab in the Stardust Genius era. And boy what a difference in crowd reaction to his entrance between then and now.
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Even before the MMA boom Inoki always leaned more towards freak show booking. He just didn't go as far or had enough talent to hide it. Post peak New Japan got really dumb and Inoki did some stupid poo poo before then but let's not act like he lucked into everything. The company was able to survive two giant talent defection in the 80s (one was mostly Inoki's fault!)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2MLoAHNtyY "Once again, I lost the big one." "But I still haven't given up yet. I will get stronger. I will build myself up again."
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He was practising for his post WK promo.
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Germansimp posted:Oh, and the announcement of Kenny vs Pentagon for All-In. Kenny's reaction 
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Juice had another loving awesome promo, god drat. You all need to watch it.
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MassRafTer posted:Post peak New Japan got really dumb and Inoki did some stupid poo poo before then but let's not act like he lucked into everything. The company was able to survive two giant talent defection in the 80s (one was mostly Inoki's fault!) Inoki gets a lot of blame for 2000s New Japan but my understanding is that he was mostly overseas and a lot of the bad booking was due to Inoki Office, which was actually run by Tetsuo Baisho (Inoki's brother-in-law and Taiji Sakaguchi (no relation to Seiji). Apparently they are the ones who interfered with Chono's and Liger's bookmaking and forced out NJPW presidents Fumihiko Uei and Masakazu Kusama. Uei took the fall for a Sumo Hall main event in 2004 where Kazuyuki Fujita lost the IWGP Heavyweight title to Kensuke Sasaki in a little over two minutes (apparently Inoki Office was trying to protect Fujita, who was New Japan's MMA golden boy). The last straw was Fujita being pulled from a Tokyo Dome show set for January 4, 2006, where he was supposed to main event with the then-champion, good ol' Brock Lesnar. Nakamura replaced Fujita, Yuke's bought out Inoki's share of NJPW, and Simon Inoki and Riki Choshu took over. That particular Dome show was important because a lot of the bad incidents of the "Inoki-ism" era happened in Tokyo and fans were turning on the company, to the point where New Japan was really struggling to do good business at the Dome. I think a lot of people use "Inoki-ism" as an excuse to criticize shooto or hybrid wrestling in general, which isn't accurate. The problem with 2000s New Japan wasn't a style issue, it was the fact that the promotion was divided between people who wanted to run it like a wrestling promotion versus using the promotion to profit from the MMA craze.
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What was that that Cody grabbed from Kenny's bag on BTE??
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El Gallinero Gros posted:What was that that Cody grabbed from Kenny's bag on BTE?? He basically stole all of his drinks and snacks, I think. https://twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX/status/1028651952119283712 What's he talking about here?
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VJeff posted:What's he talking about here?
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Benne posted:Juice had another loving awesome promo, god drat. You all need to watch it.
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VJeff posted:What's he talking about here? He admitted that the BCE 6 man tag on the A block finals was laid out in advance.
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Panama Red posted:Inoki gets a lot of blame for 2000s New Japan but my understanding is that he was mostly overseas and a lot of the bad booking was due to Inoki Office, which was actually run by Tetsuo Baisho (Inoki's brother-in-law and Taiji Sakaguchi (no relation to Seiji). Apparently they are the ones who interfered with Chono's and Liger's bookmaking and forced out NJPW presidents Fumihiko Uei and Masakazu Kusama. Uei took the fall for a Sumo Hall main event in 2004 where Kazuyuki Fujita lost the IWGP Heavyweight title to Kensuke Sasaki in a little over two minutes (apparently Inoki Office was trying to protect Fujita, who was New Japan's MMA golden boy). The last straw was Fujita being pulled from a Tokyo Dome show set for January 4, 2006, where he was supposed to main event with the then-champion, good ol' Brock Lesnar. Nakamura replaced Fujita, Yuke's bought out Inoki's share of NJPW, and Simon Inoki and Riki Choshu took over. That particular Dome show was important because a lot of the bad incidents of the "Inoki-ism" era happened in Tokyo and fans were turning on the company, to the point where New Japan was really struggling to do good business at the Dome. Yeah 2000's new Japan had some great work in ring wise. It all came down to booking and not being sure how to market themselves.
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