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Demtor
Apr 23, 2008

"...you won't be able to walk, if you're always worried about crushing the ants beneath you..."

Is the ROH/NJPW sellout of MSG the largest non WWE event in North America since the WCW days in the 90's?

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jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004



Fun Shoe

GEORGE W BUSHI posted:

https://twitter.com/pgxdjxess/statu...2437658625?s=19

This little kid DJ is posting a bunch of NJPW remixes
this is my favourite one. It’s not really much of a remix but on the other hand darryl with headphones

https://twitter.com/pgxdjxess/statu...069977672826880

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


jesus WEP posted:

KOPW is in theory a treading water kinda show but that is a stacked top end, even if it’s super unlikely plans will change

KOPW has gotten some fairly major title changes.

Demtor posted:

Is the ROH/NJPW sellout of MSG the largest non WWE event in North America since the WCW days in the 90's?

No, Mexico routinely does crowds that big. It's the biggest non WWE US wrestling crowd since July of 99 though when WCW did their last Dome show.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012

plz remember that it was ~ME~ who told you that everything you like is actually really not good, because I knew all along.


VJeff
Jun 2, 2011

#HEKNOWS
#SCOOPS
#IGNOREMYPOSTS


Omega getting ready for that Nakamura match when his WWE contract expires.

remusclaw
Dec 8, 2009




Training for a Yano title match I see.

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

tfw Dragon Lee breaks the Hiromu before you get another turn

remusclaw posted:

Training for a Yano title match I see.

yano did get two points over kenny...

Spikeguy
Jul 30, 2005

That awkward moment when you get shot by your wife, in front of your wife, who then proceeds to try to kill your wife, while your best friend is off to the side pregnant, with your wife.

Been watching a lot of NJPW since resubbing. I've subbed twice before, to watch Omega and Jericho and then to watch Dominion but this time I think it's going to stick. It's been such a joy to watch the G1 and it really has reminded me why I liked wrestling to begin with. I hope the storylines stay simple and the matches stay great.

A few thoughts:

That dude Yoshi Hashi looks like a dork
Im interested in the Bullet Club stuff but I have to wonder if they're gonna do a reunion at the end because they tried to hang that one dude.
Also is everyone in BCE white and everyone in GOD people of color? Something that stuck out to me. What is GODs beef with the rest of the club?
I kept hearing how Toma Tonga had bad matches. I guess ya'll are spoiled because I'm used to WWE. He seems good.
Kevin Kelly and Rocky are great
Sanda has really cool music and I've been rocking out to it.
One of the things that made me wanna resub was seeing NJPW guys in Yakuza 6 so good job advertising!

Spikeguy fucked around with this message at Aug 15, 2018 around 18:41

Draxion
Jun 9, 2013


Yujiro's in BCE too, and the Firing Squad doesn't like them because Kenny and Cody were being really annoying about who was in charge for months and didn't actually do anything like BC used to.

Yeah Yoshi-Hashi does look like a sad lost man a lot of the time. He should wear a mask, he's really pretty big and masked guys with super wide shoulders are cool.

Draxion fucked around with this message at Aug 15, 2018 around 19:18

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

I bet against K-1


Spikeguy posted:

Been watching a lot of NJPW since resubbing. I've subbed twice before, to watch Omega and Jericho and then to watch Dominion but this time I think it's going to stick. It's been such a joy to watch the G1 and it really has reminded me why I liked wrestling to begin with. I hope the storylines stay simple and the matches stay great.

A few thoughts:

That dude Yoshi Hashi looks like a dork
Im interested in the Bullet Club stuff but I have to wonder if they're gonna do a reunion at the end because they tried to hang that one dude.
Also is everyone in BCE white and everyone in GOD people of color? Something that stuck out to me. What is GODs beef with the rest of the club?
I kept hearing how Toma Tonga had bad matches. I guess ya'll are spoiled because I'm used to WWE. He seems good.
Kevin Kelly and Rocky are great
Sanda has really cool music and I've been rocking out to it.
One of the things that made me wanna resub was seeing NJPW guys in Yakuza 6 so good job advertising!

Tama and Fale were in Bullet Club before it became a babysitting club for roaming gaijin(with Yujiro as their resident minder). Tonga's beef is that the BC has gone soft when they were the most feared unit in NJPW. Fergal Devitt/Finn Balor used to ride Fale to the ring so there's always been some weird racial undertones to the thing.

TriffTshngo
Mar 28, 2010



Also Tama Tonga and Tanga Loa are real life brothers, and Fale is their cousin, so it makes sense they all split off together. Taiji Ishimori is also with them since Tama brought him into BC before Best of the Super Juniors. I don't think it was intended to be a racial thing but it just kind of happened that way.

Phenix Rising
Oct 24, 2005

TOUGH GUUUUUY


coconono posted:

Tama and Fale were in Bullet Club before it became a babysitting club for roaming gaijin(with Yujiro as their resident minder). Tonga's beef is that the BC has gone soft when they were the most feared unit in NJPW. Fergal Devitt/Finn Balor used to ride Fale to the ring so there's always been some weird racial undertones to the thing.

It would be great if Firing Squad were actually doing fun stuff to gently caress poo poo up instead of just crapping up the G1. Beat dudes down in the ring post-match, or only interfere like... two or three times in all of the G1. Beat some guys up in their post-match interviews. Wreck the ringside area and send fans running. I don't know, do something better than just annoying the piss out of everybody by ruining a bunch of matches in an otherwise amazing tournament. Nothing bout BCOG makes them seem like they're any more dangerous than BCE.

Your Parents
Jul 19, 2017

Thank Travis for Travis!

#1 McElboy Fan


Phenix Rising posted:

It would be great if Firing Squad were actually doing fun stuff to gently caress poo poo up instead of just crapping up the G1. Beat dudes down in the ring post-match, or only interfere like... two or three times in all of the G1. Beat some guys up in their post-match interviews. Wreck the ringside area and send fans running. I don't know, do something better than just annoying the piss out of everybody by ruining a bunch of matches in an otherwise amazing tournament. Nothing bout BCOG makes them seem like they're any more dangerous than BCE.

They're heels who want to ruin people's fun. Their interference wasn't about winning, it was about denying the crowd moments.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013



The only time it felt like they ruined a moment was Kenny vs Yano. Like sure the dqs in their regular matches were lame but they all came at the end of a slow match with a bunch of interference spots so it was a dull end to a boring match. I don’t think it really worked.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

Jeremy Corbyn has been made the subject of an official complaint to the Labour party over his suggestion in 2013 that some British Zionists do not understand 'English irony'.

Are you offended?

Why not put in a complaint?




Phenix Rising posted:

It would be great if Firing Squad were actually doing fun stuff to gently caress poo poo up instead of just crapping up the G1. Beat dudes down in the ring post-match, or only interfere like... two or three times in all of the G1. Beat some guys up in their post-match interviews. Wreck the ringside area and send fans running. I don't know, do something better than just annoying the piss out of everybody by ruining a bunch of matches in an otherwise amazing tournament. Nothing bout BCOG makes them seem like they're any more dangerous than BCE.

They're heels, annoying the piss out of you is the point

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you


Rarity posted:

They're heels, annoying the piss out of you is the point

But what if it’s X-Pac heat???

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

I bet against K-1


If they wanted to win, they’d come out and beat the poo poo out of each other. Which would confuse the gently caress out of the crowd until the finals of Tama and Fale deciding who eats the pin in a Jenken Battle. Then they’d riot.

Carlioo
Dec 26, 2012



https://twitter.com/D_TaPla/status/...2521163776?s=19

Jenkem Delivery
Feb 8, 2005

Death created time to grow the things that it would kill


harperdc
Jul 24, 2007





Your Parents posted:

They're heels who want to ruin people's fun. Their interference wasn't about winning, it was about denying the crowd moments.

Also note that these kinds of “American heel antics” get real strong heat in Japan because they’re annoying as gently caress, plus they even dragged the new (foreign) NJPW president deeper into the mud than he even intended. He came out with a statement saying he won’t get involved onscreen and hadn’t intended to.

Also that little DJ is a 5th grader the things Japanese kids get into and good at, I tell you...

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you


harperdc posted:

Also note that these kinds of “American heel antics” get real strong heat in Japan because they’re annoying as gently caress, plus they even dragged the new (foreign) NJPW president deeper into the mud than he even intended. He came out with a statement saying he won’t get involved onscreen and hadn’t intended to.

Also that little DJ is a 5th grader the things Japanese kids get into and good at, I tell you...

I’ll never forget a Japanese announcer screaming for the Young Bucks to go home, and the mayor of the town speaking out against their antics.

Phenix Rising
Oct 24, 2005

TOUGH GUUUUUY


Your Parents posted:

They're heels who want to ruin people's fun. Their interference wasn't about winning, it was about denying the crowd moments.

Rarity posted:

They're heels, annoying the piss out of you is the point

I get that, but at a certain point it becomes redundant overkill and it's not adding to the product at all, it's just making it miserable to watch any matches they're involved in. They ran it into the ground way too hard.

cams
Mar 28, 2003



firing squad clearly working as intended

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006



ya i just skipped all the tongan matches

TriffTshngo
Mar 28, 2010



I just thought it was funny how pissed off some people continually got about it, like after the 12th night straight what did you expect

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

I bet against K-1


I liked the Tongan stuff, honestly. Especially Red Shoes constantly losing his poo poo at them. I still don't get the reffing rubric because towards the start of the G-1, the refs would send off Tanga without the slightest hesitation then towards the end, they were just like "gently caress it, I'm gonna eat poo poo and powder anyway, why bother?" Maybe they too were impressed by his hilaribad promos.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009


There's also the disconnect between Tama saying he doesn't care about star ratings (which is good character work, because Omega clearly DOES care) and that he doesn't care about winning (which is bad because... like, at least pretend it's a sport, dude. When Fale interfered for Devitt, it was to make sure he won. When Yujiro turned, it was to help AJ win the title. BCOG style is to gently caress poo poo up so your guy wins the match, not just to 'trigger the marks' or whatever the gently caress)

Your Parents
Jul 19, 2017

Thank Travis for Travis!

#1 McElboy Fan


They were trying to disrespect the institution of the G1. The idea is that if they want something? They take it. They don't need to play a points game and do things officially. Tanga Loa didn't lose once in the G1 tags. Fale was never pinned or submitted.

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012



Yeah, they ended the G1 with winning the trios belts so they care about winning. Its just more important they ruin the Elite's poo poo and in this case they could do that by winning

TriffTshngo
Mar 28, 2010



I imagine the next point of order for Firing Squad is either taking the Bucks' other belts or making sure Taiji wins the Junior belt whenever that's up for grabs again, the latter of which I think is probably the actual best course of action if Hiromu's out for as long as they've said.

Strawberry Panda
Nov 4, 2007

Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP


Maybe Firing Squad is what happens when Gedo starts paying attention to the tag division.

sigmachiev
Dec 31, 2007

Fighting blood excels

VJeff posted:

Here's another thought.

G1 Supercard is gonna be a big event and NJPW's gonna need to bring a big match for it. But G1 Supercard is gonna be like a week removed from Sakura Genesis, which is traditionally main evented by the NJC winner vs. the IWGP Heavyweight Champion.

So what're they gonna do? Is the NJC winner next year gonna maybe pick the IC Title? Or is NJPW gonna have an IC Title defense at Supercard, maybe? Or would they just do two IWGP Heavyweight Championship defenses within a week of each other?

Honestly if it were me in charge, I would ice the IWGP heavyweight title after the big February show and build Okada/Omega for like 8 weeks. Make it like Austin/Rock; a must win for both men’s legacies.

Procrastinator
Aug 16, 2009

this but unironically

I enjoyed the Tongan matches, even though they were definitely on the low end of quality for the tournament.

The thing that was hosed up to me was that their suzuki gun matches weren't stable faceoffs since this interference poo poo was like all suzuki gun did last year.

VJeff
Jun 2, 2011

#HEKNOWS
#SCOOPS
#IGNOREMYPOSTS


sigmachiev posted:

Honestly if it were me in charge, I would ice the IWGP heavyweight title after the big February show and build Okada/Omega for like 8 weeks. Make it like Austin/Rock; a must win for both men’s legacies.

Personally, I really don't need to see Okada/Omega again until like, I dunno. Late 2019? The feud's over, let it be over for at least a full year.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010


VJeff posted:

Personally, I really don't need to see Okada/Omega again until like, I dunno. Late 2019? The feud's over, let it be over for at least a full year.

I agree, let them both do other things.

Strawberry Panda
Nov 4, 2007

Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP


After the Tana match, you think they'll put Okada in a feud against Jericho?

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010


Strawberry Panda posted:

After the Tana match, you think they'll put Okada in a feud against Jericho?

Maybe not a long feud but probably a match. And Chris'll do the job because he's savvy as gently caress and knows he's permanently made and can afford to do it.

CHaKKaWaKka
Aug 6, 2001

I've chosen my next victim. Cry tears of joy it's not you!

I'm really curious to see what Tana vs Okada will reveal about Okada. As far as I can tell the storyline is that Okada has sort of stopped taking wrestling seriously since losing the title but even when acting like he doesn't care he's still able to go on a winning streak during the G1. I can't imagine that they would have Balloons Okada beat Tanahashi.

What will be the first clue about his return as Wrestling God Okada? His theme song going back to normal, or him going back to trunks?

TriffTshngo
Mar 28, 2010



Don't you dare blame the long boys for Weird Okada, they're what propelled him to 12 title defenses.

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Strawberry Panda
Nov 4, 2007

Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP


CHaKKaWaKka posted:

I'm really curious to see what Tana vs Okada will reveal about Okada. As far as I can tell the storyline is that Okada has sort of stopped taking wrestling seriously since losing the title but even when acting like he doesn't care he's still able to go on a winning streak during the G1. I can't imagine that they would have Balloons Okada beat Tanahashi.

What will be the first clue about his return as Wrestling God Okada? His theme song going back to normal, or him going back to trunks?

He went back to the Rainmaker outfit against Tana in the last G1 match. Maybe that means Tana was the only wrestler he took seriously in the tournament.

But you'll know he's serious again when he goes back to having blonde hair.

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