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T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Let's go nats baby love the nats

let's go nuts baby love to nut

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T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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buddy if hating the rich is all it took I coulda done it by age 10

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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anarchists are the only real leftists imo

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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Its Coke posted:

I agree that anarchists are very different from ancaps but not that you need a state for unfair economic structures to exist. there are countless historical examples and even a specific anthropological name for that type of structure (chiefdom)

however power in those does tend to become so consolidated that it eventually forms a state if it's not absorbed by one, and states definitely help capital accrue faster through property rights, dispute resolution and the facilitation of trade

I think you might be misunderstanding Screaming Idiot somewhat. Nobody has ever said that you can't have unfair hierarchies outside of a state. Even after the Glorious Revolution (date pending) we're still going to have a lot of systems to break down and it's an open question to me if we'll ever finish. But you can't have capitalism and it's unfair hierarchies without the state, at least in any form that makes sense. If there's not people allowed to shoot you for taking food, shelter, and weed without paying, capitalism breaks down. It can't handle that, like a robot being told to divide by zero, it's axioms can't account for it. Doesn't matter if they're the cops or a corporation taking on the role of the state in ancap wet dreams.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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Really agree, we only need 10% of the wealthy off the top anything more is gratuitous and messy

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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it's real iirc, some british rag

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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borders get the guillotine

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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I mean we've basically already lost the war on extinction and ecological collapse, may as well spread kudzu and cats everywhere

it still won't be as bad as what's coming :)

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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America will invade Japan and then start on taking over china


hey folks great western expansion two point oh it's gonna be great we love it

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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any situation where we don't have enough people on board to literally just ignore the rich in their bunkers and take/use/distribute the means of production they'll just mow us down and go back to business as usual

people have leftist revolutions, had leftist revolutions, will probably continue to try to have them, but the enemy is global, well organized, and willing to do anything -- and they have a volunteer army of magabombers, bootlickers, and other true believers

the guillotine must be in your heart, your assumptions and understandings about the world, and be a part of your very nonexistent soul if you want to really get away from the tendrils of capitalist indoctrination

they just need to wait out the game, we need to get like 90% of the board without tipping them off, playing from last place with a team that's probably 50% plants and 150% in love with arguing

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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we'll put so many flowers in their guns until the bullets can't get through anymore

if we have any swoletariats with us have them bend the gun looney toons style to face back at the merc



we're so hosed

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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Screaming Idiot posted:

I spent about forty bucks on Halloween candy this year -- full-size candy bars, sour gummy worms, the good poo poo, the kind of stuff I would have loved as a kid. I live in a really poor neighborhood, so whatever kids came to my door were gonna get the royal treatment.

And nobody showed up. I found out most of the kids in my apartment complex are too poor to get costumes, or their parents work and can't take them out this year, or those that did go out didn't think anyone in the complex itself was going to hand out candy. :smith:

You could try putting it out, maybe with a note explaining about your intentions. Might all get stolen, but I'm sure a fair number of people wouldn't want to literally steal candy from babies (in a public enough spot)

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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BernieTheBolshevik posted:

what's the c-spam view on giving out apples and ziploc bags filled with blueberries and strawberries to trick or treaters?

maybe make some PB&J sandwiches with whole wheat bread and sugar-free jelly if you really want to treat them.

you will burn in the deepest pit of hell for this

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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is that the pony you went as this year? I hope it had some insulation or something, that's icy weather

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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Fahrenheit is a temperature scale for humans (0 is very cold, 40 is pretty cold, 70 is nice, 100 is hot, 130 kills you) with flesh bodies who want to know how things feel whereas Celsius the pony is for robots looking for the most beep beep accurate method

humans are not litres of water at a set pressure buddy

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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europeans invented capitalism, guillotine them all

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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all of this assumes we aren't about to have a collapse in industrial capacity and overall access to material resources as the organizing structures of capitalism eats itself


at this point I'd start worrying about getting 3-500 people set up in communes able to make food water and clothes independently. Better to save 300 people than worry about the 300 million who are probably gonna get dead pretty fast once the semis stop rolling

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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I can do 100% of the work to save 50 people or .1% of the work to save 50,000 people. Which one, given the world as it seems to be, will lead to more saved lives?

My solution is communes because I don't think we can save people on a broader scale in any meaningful sense. Better to have the infrastructure for small community industrial production rather than relying on the collapsing infrastructure of global supply chain capitalism.

And of course it's not either/or. Feel free to work on *checks notes* arguing about Trotsky for the millionth time and if it works it works and I'll eat crow.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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CharlestheHammer posted:

I mean your plan doesn’t really save anyone it just allows you to maybe live a little longer.

even that is kind of a stretch.

its basically the leftist equivalent of doomsday prep

oh sorry i forgot gotta reverse entropy to be a real leftist brb

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Yes, let's tear down existing society because of an existential threat. Instead we will create a new society for fewer people that are somehow immune to the problems of the already existing society?
how are you this stupid and not yet banned from posting in csapm

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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i'm more for dank-greenism heyyyyyyyyo

what are you even on about

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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GalacticAcid posted:

idk the term dark greenism but you’re basically arguing for anarcho primitivism which is just as dumb as Ate poo poo’s “what if we made the whole world out of the bourgeoisie?”

anyway. this thread is off the rails again. find some rich ppl to wish death on

are you really claiming "maybe a global supply chain will be unsustainable" is the same as "trans people eat bark for hormones"

it's like talking to toddlers with phds in misreading people

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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Hodgepodge posted:

i dunno, you did seem to think global economics is subject to heat death, which is not a concept that applies to systems subject to external input from, say, a star nearby enough to sustain life

however it is really common for people not to understand that most actual thermodynamic systems are non-equilibrium and that most pop science understandings about things like entropy do not apply to most natural systems

yes this is less a reply and more an excuse to point this out

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-equilibrium_thermodynamics

nerd

Hodgepodge posted:

i can't stop posting i've tried im so sorry

never stop posting it's the only way to socialism

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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$3000 in savings per month and $100 in emergency saving is a strange way to divide things.

also death by guillotine

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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that last name is the second most guillotineable name ever devised, right after Bezos

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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mandatory lesbian posted:

Nah, they're human. The actual trick is realizing killing people isn't inherently a bad thing

i, too, have seen Joker (2019)

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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Laterite posted:

CEO is ... a WOMAN ... with a MISTRESS !

In the library, with a candlestick!

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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GalacticAcid posted:

NYC public schools do free breakfast even in the summer, I believe

that was a de blasio initiative. he's not all bad.

It sounds like he just got lucky and managed to tell the right time twice a day. You do not have to hand it to them.

That said, if it weren't for nukes I'd say all the leftists should move to Virginia and establish the 69th Internationale.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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100 HOGS AGREE posted:

But I thought he was giving all his money away!!!

A billion dollar bill is made out of glitter and has the same magical effect. As soon as you have a little they'll just keep popping up places. From nothing. Do not question the narrative or we'll pull your org's foundation grants.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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Cup Runneth Over posted:

Full quote, c'mon


:thermidor: :thermidor: :thermidor: :thermidor:

The funniest thing is that Amazon Turk offers a non insignificant amount of money from tasks if you get a program that gets good enough results and can run it en mass. But you also need to find ways to make them not be like bots, I'm imagining a mispelling RNG engine for lying to amazon. Of course this puts potentially thousands of very poor people out of work over like $100-500 a month.

Also I guess if I move to Manila I can get a decent wage transcribing cards after being put on the guillotine list for above.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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if anyone anywhere is ever forced to take this job capitalism has officially failed as an efficient distributor of goods and services, sure hope that don't happen

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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woosh

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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Giga Gaia posted:



this lil skeleton makin me so happy

seems like good emoticon fodder imo

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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Jobs under capitalism?

"work or die" isn't a motto, it's a threat

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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wizzardstaff posted:

I watched a policy debate once in high school and the negative team argued that if the affirmative's plan were to be put into action, it would cause more mental energy to be generated from endless debates in Congress, which would provide more fuel for the brain-sucking machines who enslave us all in the Matrix.

And apparently this was a common argument that people had to routinely prepare for.

that's a loving good argument, take another hit

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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I did debate in high school (try not to be shocked). Apparently my district was the chill af stoners, so we did (comparatively) very slow debates with a much bigger focus on speaking style and creativity. The most popular overlap was with the theatre kids, and we had an improvisational debate format that I loved. I really enjoyed it and always did quite well at local events, but going to state sucked because there were all the future ben shapiros, mostly doing the shoutiest kind of debate. And the usual stupid high school drama.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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Laterite posted:

the poor companies :qq:

ugh the cogs cost too much to replace when they break, and by "cogs" i mean human bodies and by "break" i mean experience permanent damage, impairment, starvation, sleep deprivation, and general dread and suffering

and by "too much" i mean more than it costs to dispose of a body

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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The secret is to be 3' taller than your landlord, never lost a deposit when I have 100 pounds of goonfleah on the owner.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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∆∆∆

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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I say we bring back the kinda stuff they did back in the 30's, people coming together to "convince" the local banker to sell the house back to the guy he evicted for $1. Might be a good thing to remember as we get ready for Great Recession II: Nazi flavored.

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T-man
Aug 22, 2010


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Cup Runneth Over posted:

Yeah but if they're scamming 60 students a year and 90% of them don't take legal action it's still a net profit.

the most efficient economic system in the history of the world :)

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