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To be honest I think the AFL should spend less time trying to micro-engineer the game through constant rule changes and turning the MRP into Plucka Duck, and instead focus on things like... BrigadierSensible posted:In the AFL being arsehole news: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/in-despair-artists-take-aim-at-afl-over-indigenous-round-guernsey-20180602-p4zj25.html paying their suppliers.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 05:43 |
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Fox Footy coverage has issues (Eddie) but half-time and post-game coverage is largely spent analysing the game and not on bantz between the boys. 7 is as shoddily produced as The Footy Show and about as inviting to anyone not interested in its boys’ club aesthetic.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:06 |
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Channel 7 also has violent criminal and sex assault perpetrator Wayne Carey on the coverage for some reason
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:09 |
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The other problem with using the draft as the be-all-end-all equalisation tool is that it ignores the massive importance of club culture on the development of talent
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:20 |
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racing identity posted:The problem with the draft as an equalisation measure is that it doesn't work in the short term. All but the most freakish of talents take at least a few years to develop into consistently good players. The amount of talent required to rebuild a list is exactly why teams have tried to bring in top draft picks in groups and not rely on their normal yearly allocation. Overall clubs rebuilding just need more access to players who may be a long term quality players and the draft is pretty much the main way to make that happen. racing identity posted:And you can't really increase the incentives to finish bottom without further encouraging tanking Any team that is willing to tank for a pick in the early 20's is probably doomed to fail regardless of any other factors. Spedman posted:The other problem with using the draft as the be-all-end-all equalisation tool is that it ignores the massive importance of club culture on the development of talent While that definitely has an impact, the draft is the foundation that every club who is at the bottom end of the ladder has to rely on to rebuild. The fact that every club who has done a full rebuild in recent times has identified the need to bring in a lot more picks inside the first few rounds pretty much shows that the draft in its current form doesn't do enough to naturally rebuild teams. For example, the Saints identified that they'd need 3 picks inside the top 20 every year for three years as the key component of their rebuild.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 07:06 |
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Spedman posted:The other problem with using the draft as the be-all-end-all equalisation tool is that it ignores the massive importance of club culture on the development of talent Ding ding ding A poor club development culture will make what are regarded to be best young players in the country into the next Jimmy Toumpas.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 07:19 |
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Hmmm all my tips are correct so far so it falls to my own team to steal my Whopper. (Yes I know we don't get Whoppers anymore which is a bloody outrage.)
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 07:54 |
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I tried a whopper a while ago thinking it was just a bacon deluxe without bacon and boy is it not. Ewww.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 07:59 |
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snoremac posted:I tried a whopper a while ago thinking it was just a bacon deluxe without bacon and boy is it not. Ewww.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 08:05 |
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Crows looking sharper this week but GWS have turned up too
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 08:21 |
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Well Fyfe ain’t winning the Brownlow now, and we’re getting pumped by Collingwood, gently caress this game.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 08:28 |
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Spedman posted:Well Fyfe ain’t winning the Brownlow now, and we’re getting pumped by Collingwood, gently caress this game. He'll get a fine, no doubt.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 08:32 |
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We look slower than a c grade side after a night out
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 08:34 |
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Anyone else would get two weeks for that crude hit but Fyfe is high on Brownlow votes. Verdict: fine.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 08:37 |
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realbez posted:Anyone else would get two weeks for that crude hit but Fyfe is high on Brownlow votes. Verdict: fine. I honestly will be shocked if he’s playing the next round against Adelaide, it was proper crude and you could see he knew it when they showed him getting a rub down on the bench right after.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 08:47 |
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A slow as treacle midfield is ok when it's as brutally unbeatable inside as Josh Kennedy, but ours is getting spanked inside and then having the same players run rings around them outside
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 09:08 |
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C'MON YOU CROWS
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 09:24 |
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Doesn't matter whether Fyfe gets suspended or not because Max Gawn is going to walk it in fyi
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 09:34 |
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Hogan and Will Hoskin-Elliot the only players to have kicked a goal each round this season
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 09:36 |
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Faaaaark Giants up by 9 with not much time left
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 10:04 |
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Hartigan getting stats the only way he knows how - getting frees
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 10:08 |
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Fuckfuckfuckfuck
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 10:11 |
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Badelaide
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 10:19 |
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Really just four key injuries are showing just how bad the rest of the list is
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 10:22 |
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NTRabbit posted:Really just four key injuries are showing just how bad the rest of the list is I don't think many teams would be doing much better if you took out their 5 of their top 10 players, including the captain and vice captain
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 10:39 |
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adelaides loss lifted port into the 8 lol
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 10:44 |
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port has played a game less than everyone else, too. edit: Lever ACL tear confirmed =\
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 11:13 |
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Really rough for Jake, he'd just found form in the last 3 weeks or so. Reckoning 9 months out so presumably looking to return via the VFL sometime next season. Hunt/Frost going to be asked to step up big time.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 11:37 |
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fwiw I’d really rather we didn’t lose to Collingwood if that’s at all possible
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 13:42 |
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So, will Fyfe get a week or not? IT"S TIME FOR MRP BINGO!!!!
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 14:18 |
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Solemn Sloth posted:fwiw I’d really rather we didn’t lose to Collingwood if that’s at all possible i would like to not lose to collingwood but best case scenario would be flogging them and everyone spends the next week calling them pretenders however melbourne gonna melbourne so i half expect the reverse to occur. but to be honest i liked the way the dees didnt have things their own way in the doggies game and still were able to adjust under (albeit somewhat incompetent) adversity
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 14:43 |
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snaeksikn posted:Ding ding ding The thing is, I believe that development "culture" is actually more about maintaining a competitive team to allow young players to build up games. It has taken Melbourne a decade to rebuild due to them jettisoning most of their players over the years and really bottoming out. Carlton are feeling that squeeze now and the Saints definitely have and are right now. Teams like Sydney/Hawks/Geelong seem to just inherently develop better but I think its really due to them becoming strong before the GWS/GC draft mess and being able to make the most of it and keep a cycle going.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 14:58 |
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You see it all the time in sports where amazing talents thrown into the deep end can't cope and their development suffers. Sure eventually, they'll end up as solid dependable players but often it's the potential that suffers and the meanwhile is rough for fans too. If you blow it up and there's no transcendent talent waiting for you at pick no1 you're hosed.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 15:08 |
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Nutsngum posted:The thing is, I believe that development "culture" is actually more about maintaining a competitive team to allow young players to build up games. oh absolutely, when you have 18 players on the field for a team then morale and habits become far more intangible than just what the single individual is capable of, its why afl is such a massively momentum dictated game. having the right mix of experienced heads who know what the right decision is 95% of the time makes a huge difference when you are giving young guys a run early in their career. when you have a huge chunk of the side being young blokes trying to find their way its easy for it to all go off the rails and ruin young talent before the club cottons on to how badly theyve gotten it wrong
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 16:13 |
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Periphery posted:The fact that Carlton, the Dogs, Lions, Suns and Saint all look loving horrible this year is a pretty bad sign for the game in general imo. Carlton and the Lions less so, but the Saints and Dogs should be way better than they are. Both are playing real young teams due to injury etc but should still be better than the poo poo they are showing this year. The Dogs are the youngest team in the comp (and won a flag recently?) and it’s not the draft’s fault that St Kilda has filled their side full of vanilla plodders
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 19:24 |
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E: Hit wrong button E2: What I really meant to post: Shmoses posted:The Dogs are the youngest team in the comp The Dogs may be the youngest total list but Saints are actually the youngest team in the comp at the moment. Here's the breakdown of the 5 teams that played on the weekend: Periphery fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jun 3, 2018 |
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Periphery posted:E: Hit wrong button Add Freo into that pre:Height 188.4cm Weight 87.8kg Age 23yr 2mth Games 56.1 Games Fremantle Less than 50 13 50 to 99 5 100 to 149 3 150 or more 1
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 01:26 |
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Spedman posted:Add Freo into that I completely forgot about Freo. Probably because I'm hardwired to assume that any Ross Lyon coached team must be full of old men at the expense of talented young kids. That's a stupidly young and inexperienced team. Without having watched all their games or looked at their draw, they are doing pretty well to have a percentage of 81.3%. That's probably another reason I forgot that they were rebuilding as their performances haven't been as consistently horrible as the others. The other 5 teams all have a percentage under 80% with Saints (71), Suns (68) and Blues (63) all significantly worse.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 02:03 |
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Cowdude suspended. 1 week.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 07:10 |
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Periphery posted:I completely forgot about Freo. Probably because I'm hardwired to assume that any Ross Lyon coached team must be full of old men at the expense of talented young kids. The older outs at the moment are the Hill brothers, Sandilands, Ballantyne, Matera, Spurr, Bennell, D. Pearce, and Johnson. Johnson and Ballantyne will likely be done this year, maybe Sandilands and Pearce too. Was always going to be at least a week for this: https://twitter.com/AFLcomau/status/1003171116133728256
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