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my job is terrible. i'm the only data scientist in an organisation of 2000, looking for new opportunities like this shining beacon on a hill:Process Specialist with Agile Mindset posted:Oh, and the deadline is in five weeks. company makes dental prosthetics during another unrelated opportunity a company asked "would you do this technical thing? it probably likely won't take a week". lo and behold it would have taken a week edit: thanks to The Leck for finding The Questions: quote:- who do you work with on a daily basis / describe the day to day role When interviewing: "[redacted posted:"] When interviewing with startups: tl;dr version: quote:1) How much money does the company have in the bank? quote:When you're leaving a big company to interview at a startup, there are some hidden questions you might not know to ask. Courtesy of The Leck and this duder on twitter: https://twitter.com/jensenharris Here's an amazing effortpost about interviewing for white collar jobs: PIZZA.BAT posted:alright gonna effortpost how the white collar interview process more or less works. i'll edit this post with it just a sec More Really Good Advice that you should follow: reversefungi posted:I have a continuously growing list of questions in a Google doc. Whenever I run into something that's either "That's awesome, how do I make sure I find this again in the future" or "this is absolute garbage I never want to encounter this in a job again", it goes in the list. An obvious one that has saved me some grief is "Can I get a short product demo at some point during the interview process, to have a better understanding of what I'd be working on?" If they show you a janky pos app, makes it very easy to turn down and move on champagne posting fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Jun 25, 2022 |
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data scientist usually means analyst advertised salary is a good way to tell which it is
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 11:20 |
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I'm chasing up opportunities in London
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 20:35 |
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new year new computer touching two of my current job's clients have fled with the new year so it's really really time to go look at being a stemlord.
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 21:00 |
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interviewing for the second time for an analyst position. well, it's a new position, because HR said the job didn't exist the first time i interviewed. probably won't get it this time either but it's also a lateral move because the american gov't must vilify its employees at all costs
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 21:23 |
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Valeyard posted:I'm chasing up opportunities in London but in order to not go down in real salary i'd have to be paid to the tune of £70k and for some reason no one in london wants to pay that to an entry level person
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 21:39 |
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but i've also been told (possibly in this thread) that the uk is a terrible place to touch computers professionally
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 21:40 |
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I’m six months into new job and everything is a clusterfuck (inherited) and I’ve tried hard to fix it. now I give up since my colleagues apparently can’t tell they’re buried neck deep in poo poo or want to do anything about it. I’m going to stop rowing against the tide and ride it down for a while until I identify where the non-disaster areas of the company are and transfer there.
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 21:41 |
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Boiled Water posted:
ive been telling recruiters i want 80k, some of them dont sniff, others have told me its unlikely with only my 2 years of experience honestly i would rather just get a higher paying job in glasgow, but im probably already working for the best company i can be, so it would need to be a move to somewhere else with the view of going back to current job eventually
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 21:53 |
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Valeyard posted:I'm chasing up opportunities in London goonspeed
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 21:59 |
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Which is better: 1. Small consistent set of more in-depth interviews with standard rubrics, or 2. Large number of more conversational interviews with people you might work with? I prefer the first, but I've noticed the second is picking up steam, especially for research-y groups (I think this is how MSR would interview; they probably got it from Bell Labs or something)
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# ? Jan 10, 2018 03:52 |
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Emacs Headroom posted:Which is better: i'd pick 2 every single time, because i can carry on a conversation, and i hate being marked down for missing a rubic buzzword by a person who hasn't demonstrated that they understand what the buzzword means. then again, i'm a white male, and the rubric-based interview methods are designed by/for big companies to avoid the gut feeling decisions on "culture fit" that happen in case 2 and are likely to work in my favor however, if you're a phd applying for a research job, there should be no rubric-based interviews anywhere. they should look at your publication record, then discuss how your research might fit in to their goals. it's just not possible to develop a standard rubric when hiring at this level. if you're just taking your phd to google for a software engineer level 3 job, expect rubrics, but not for a researcher
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# ? Jan 10, 2018 04:02 |
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my former rule of thumb for uk salaries would be to divide your usa salary by 2, since the pound is like $2. but given how hard and deep the uk has hosed itself forever with brexit, i'd demand at least 100k gbp, and nobody's paying that, so gently caress the uk
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# ? Jan 10, 2018 04:08 |
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Boiled Water posted:
Dunno if you're joking but entry level in London is half that.
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# ? Jan 10, 2018 06:02 |
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Valeyard posted:ive been telling recruiters i want 80k, some of them dont sniff, others have told me its unlikely with only my 2 years of experience No loving chance you're getting £80k in London unless you're a technical lead. 2 years should expect no more than 45k imho.
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# ? Jan 10, 2018 06:04 |
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qhat posted:No loving chance you're getting £80k in London unless you're a technical lead. 2 years should expect no more than 45k imho. qhat posted:Dunno if you're joking but entry level in London is half that. duly noted, will touch computers elsewhere
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# ? Jan 10, 2018 09:09 |
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qhat posted:No loving chance you're getting £80k in London unless you're a technical lead. 2 years should expect no more than 45k imho. You can get a lot more than that with 2 years experience if you're happy to work for the financial industry
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# ? Jan 10, 2018 21:31 |
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qhat posted:No loving chance you're getting £80k in London unless you're a technical lead. 2 years should expect no more than 45k imho. 80k before or after taxes?
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# ? Jan 10, 2018 21:33 |
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http://archive.is/RVYsf
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# ? Jan 10, 2018 22:26 |
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qhat posted:No loving chance you're getting £80k in London unless you're a technical lead. 2 years should expect no more than 45k imho. You can easily get that as a senior dev, tech lead salaries are 90-120k for mid-large companies also pointsofdata posted:You can get a lot more than that with 2 years experience if you're happy to work for the financial industry How long have you been living in Canada ?
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# ? Jan 10, 2018 23:21 |
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I'm wrapping up my PhD this month and applying for jobs. Mostly Data Science jobs. I've got a variety of past experience in things such as spectroscopy, x-ray diffraction, etc, that don't quite make sense to generic healthcare company data scientist #69. Should I peel all irrelevant skills like that off of my resume? I have a more recent LaTeX formatted resume that I submit in PDF form. I was wondering why I was only getting callbacks from smaller companies, looked into it, and whatever machine reading tech larger companies use spits back incomprehensible garbage, which may explain my unfortunate callback rate. So I'm updating an old resume from a couple of years ago.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 00:04 |
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DELETE CASCADE posted:however, if you're a phd applying for a research job, there should be no rubric-based interviews anywhere. they should look at your publication record, then discuss how your research might fit in to their goals. it's just not possible to develop a standard rubric when hiring at this level. if you're just taking your phd to google for a software engineer level 3 job, expect rubrics, but not for a researcher Assuming you're talking about a real reseach position (i.e. MSR / FB Research / Google Brain as opposed to some BI "data scientist"), how about : "inside" research interview: interviewer is expected to read recent publications from the author and attend their job talk. interview will focus on:
"outside" research interview: interviewer will present a new business problem, and the researcher will be expected to develop ideas for a line of research that can address it (e.g. "out sign-up page performs poorly for some groups" -> "oh let's try contextual bandits"). looking for
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pointsofdata posted:You can get a lot more than that with 2 years experience if you're happy to work for the financial industry I worked in finance (financial research software company, billion dollars but not a bank) and that was the wage for people with several years exp. I actually knew a guy earning 100k but he was VP in a quant research role at HSBC. Not sure where people are getting these six figure GBP salaries from, I suspect they've never actually worked in London.
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All I'm saying is when the IRL recruiter is telling you it's not going to happen, and the guy who worked a long time in London in finance is telling you it's not going to happen, and the only person telling you it can happen is the guy who thinks it takes over an hour to get from zone 4 to zone 1 on the tube, it should be pretty clear cut that the UK sucks overall for salaries.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 06:27 |
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:80k before or after taxes? Before. Fyi you get taxed 40% on poo poo over like 45k or something.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 06:55 |
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jre posted:
https://stackoverflow.com/jobs/sala...&tl%5B2%5D=java While pay is admittedly low in London especially considering the cost of living, there are still quite a lot of well paying jobs and the salary tail is quite long.
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pointsofdata posted:https://stackoverflow.com/jobs/sala...&tl%5B2%5D=java Ya this seems about right
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qhat posted:All I'm saying is when the IRL recruiter is telling you it's not going to happen, and the guy who worked a long time in London in finance is telling you it's not going to happen, and the only person telling you it can happen is the guy who thinks it takes over an hour to get from zone 4 to zone 1 on the tube, it should be pretty clear cut that the UK sucks overall for salaries. I'm basing the London salaries I posted on what the company I work for pays the members of my team in London, and on the market salary review for other companies in the sector I've seen. How long ago did you rage quit the UK and go to Canada to work as a barman ?
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jre posted:I'm basing the London salaries I posted on what the company I work for pays the members of my team in London, and on the market salary review for other companies in the sector I've seen. Maybe you're right, I wonder what an A-list company, say Amazon, pays an engineer in London. Let's have a look then: SDE I: £38-49k, average £42k SDE II: £44k-67k, average £56k SSDE: £52k-97, average £81k Welp. But sure it's "easy" to get £80k+ as a freaking noob in London because. Lol.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 10:11 |
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qhat posted:All I'm saying is when the IRL recruiter is telling you it's not going to happen, and the guy who worked a long time in London in finance is telling you it's not going to happen, and the only person telling you it can happen is the guy who thinks it takes over an hour to get from zone 4 to zone 1 on the tube, it should be pretty clear cut that the UK sucks overall for salaries. it very much can happen. I made about the amount you suggested as max with 2 years experience and at my review was told I was underpaid and given a big raise
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Looks like I got owned hard by my recruiter though
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qhat posted:Maybe you're right, I wonder what an A-list company, say Amazon, pays an engineer in London. Let's have a look then: It's not necessarily easy, but even the stackoverflow survey has 75th percentile of 2 years experience and a nothing special profile at 50k. You can make more if you have some sort of advantage over the average dev.
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pointsofdata posted:Looks like I got owned hard by my recruiter though Please understand that, by your own data, earning £80k probably puts you solidly in the top 10% of earners for that level of experience, if not top 5%. You're outside of the norm.
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pointsofdata posted:Looks like I got owned hard by my recruiter though (yos-similar??) where recruiters say "hey your resume looks vaguely technical do you wanna do it support for xerox for a pittance?"
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 10:21 |
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DELETE CASCADE posted:my former rule of thumb for uk salaries would be to divide your usa salary by 2, since the pound is like $2. but given how hard and deep the uk has hosed itself forever with brexit, i'd demand at least 100k gbp, and nobody's paying that, so gently caress the uk The pound was last over $2 11 years ago, and that was a freak one-off. It was last regularly over $2 in the late 70s.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 11:24 |
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post the interview questions that were in the op of the other thread or this one is worthless
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 15:52 |
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Captain Foo posted:post the interview questions that were in the op of the other thread or this one is worthless be the change you want to see in the world
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 16:02 |
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I haven't had to give interviews for javascript developers in over a year and my outlook in life as improved greatly as a result.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 16:13 |
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drat, London devs are getting owned big time
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The Management posted:drat, London devs are getting owned big time open an office here and take advantage of that cheap offshore labour without the language barrier
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