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lol this is working for the norwegian state so maybe it's just nordic bureaucracy. i'd be great at this job though, every day spent considering is a day they could have had me already working there
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iospace posted:Question: are you supposed to send a thank you letter after interviews, including phone screens? No, and no. But you can if you want.
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Feb 13, 2019 21:07
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iospace posted:Question: are you supposed to send a thank you letter after interviews, including phone screens? I send thank you’s after in person interviews. not expected though.
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iospace posted:Question: are you supposed to send a thank you letter after interviews, including phone screens? I do just so I can tell them I’m Very Excited for the Opportunity. highly doubt it’s ever made a difference
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This is getting weird... So I had that interview with AWS, sounded like too much ops stuff, oh well, pass on it. Hiring manager reaches out, explains that the developer I spoke with was incorrect (hmmm... ok), describes something that sounds very much like ops work, and explains that they're in the "stabilization" part of the project. Ok, thanks for the clarification, sounds like the boring bug squashing part of every project without the fun of helping design it, so still doesn't sound interesting, i politely tell them I'm not interested but would talk to other teams at AWS. Now the recruiter explains someone ELSE with the team wants to talk? It was weird enough to do it once after a pretty mediocre phone interview, but... again? Meanwhile there are other teams at AWS that could potentially be interesting, so this is sort of distracting us from those teams... I suspect they're having a hard time filling reqs on this team, probably because the work is just as boring as it sounds
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Boiled Water posted:i'm currently in the danish IRS and boy did they take their sweet time in making a decision. im in the american version and it took about 6 months to go from application to start date. this must have been some kind of record because i know people that had to wait 2+ years
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The place I interviewed at a couple of weeks ago PFO’ed me, although it was a fairly polite PFO. Still no word on the CJ role I put in for at the local community college a month ago. 
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Feb 13, 2019 23:56
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just got turned down from a job i really wanted
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Captain Foo posted:just got turned down from a job i really wanted  sweet new avatar tho 
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FMguru posted:that sucks
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Captain Foo posted:just got turned down from a job i really wanted this is gonna be me next week
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:
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FMguru posted:that sucks thanks! Never forget the av thread
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Schadenboner posted:The place I interviewed at a couple of weeks ago PFO’ed me, although it was a fairly polite PFO. what's a pfo
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:what's a pfo Please gently caress Off.
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Schadenboner posted:Please gently caress Off. Ok, but what does PFO mean?
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Schadenboner posted:Ok, but what does PFO mean? nice
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It's very cool when companies tell you that you did great on the technical interview then ghost you for weeks. Great process this.
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Kilometres Davis posted:It's very cool when companies tell you that you did great on the technical interview then ghost you for weeks. Great process this.
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i had the most epic candidate to interview yesterday he was basically the people skills dude from office space, but happy excited instead of angry excited, he had a mullet, and a new york* accent i.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcIMIyQnOso *i say new york but i'm bad at accents. maybe a jersey accent?
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i'm pretty sure that 90% of people looking up 2d array syntax documentation are either preparing for or actually doing tech screens
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i am a dumb idiot who knows nothing about his own field so i guess another poorly concieved enterprise website it is!
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Would you guys spend 4 hours on a code screen for a non-tech company? Background: 9 yrs experience, mostly .NET. Currently work in healthcare making just under 120k base and work 100% remote, but the team is a dead-end and I'm bored as gently caress. We mostly support legacy crapware and a bunch of vendor garbage, with a sprinkling of .NET MVC and .NET Core apps. Work/life balance and benefits are outstanding, but I could see us all being laid off in the next couple of years. A recruiter from Charles Schwab contacted me and asked if I'd be interested in a lead engineer role. It's all modern MS stuff (.NET Core/Angular/etc) which I really enjoy, and sounds like a good bit of architectural work. Base around 140k (which is way above average here in Denver) + bonus. Significantly less PTO (15 days vs. 26) and crappier benefits overall, plus only 1 or 2 days remote/week. I'm considering it, but the first step is a 4 hour(!) code screen. WTF. After that would be onsite interviews, which involves some wannabe tech company whiteboard gauntlet. So even non-tech companies are doing code screen and whiteboarding garbage now. I'm tempted to just stay in my current role and let my skills rot, but being bored all the time is making me depressed/anxious.
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Feb 14, 2019 22:41
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What kind of code screen is it? If it's take home, then yes, if the reward was potentially worth it.
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that just sounds like a miscommunication, i agree that it’s probably a take home. i’d do a 4 hour take home for a company i was interested in, assuming it’s really 4 hours.
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Fart Johnson posted:Would you guys spend 4 hours on a code screen for a non-tech company? a 16% raise for a decrease in quality of life doesn't really sound appealing to me but i also don't know the extent of how boring your current work is
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pto is always negotiable
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Rex-Goliath posted:a 16% raise for a decrease in quality of life doesn't really sound appealing to me but i also don't know the extent of how boring your current work is the new bonus is most likely substantially larger than the old one
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i really hate working on garbage dead end software i'll let you know when i find a job where i dont have to
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qhat posted:What kind of code screen is it? If it's take home, then yes, if the reward was potentially worth it. It's at home, but they require a webcam be on the entire time. Just seems insulting that for a lead role they won't even do a phone screen. Rex-Goliath posted:a 16% raise for a decrease in quality of life doesn't really sound appealing to me but i also don't know the extent of how boring your current work is The work is extremely boring and the red tape is like none other, but I think you're right. We have a pension here as well, so probably worth sticking around. It sucks not having anyone to learn from at work, though. Notorious b.s.d. posted:pto is always negotiable I specifically asked and the recruiter was adamant that it isn't negotiable, lol.
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:i really hate working on garbage dead end software i'll let you know when i find a job where i dont have to I've been on ONE team that was all greenfield development and it was glorious. I'll never stop chasing that dragon...
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Fart Johnson posted:I've been on ONE team that was all greenfield development and it was glorious. I'll never stop chasing that dragon... how's the guilt?
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If PTO isn't negotiable then sever lol. Yeah we'll give you tens of thousands more dollars a month but those extra 5 days are out of the question. Think about the kind of person who this makes sense to.
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having worked at Charles Schwab, all the .Net people were tasked with breaking out 500 year old code to service based architectures, so if that sounds "fun" to you go crazy Also my team/department used mongoDB in the dumbest way humanly possible so
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Scionix posted:having worked at Charles Schwab, all the .Net people were tasked with breaking out 500 year old code to service based architectures, so if that sounds "fun" to you go crazy Thanks for the info, what location were you in? The team here in Denver falls under "AIM Technology", whatever that stands for. Anyway, the job description involved re-writing/modernizing a bunch of legacy apps, so you're probably spot on. I'm going to dip out of the process, I don't feel like spending 4 hours then getting ghosted.
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Fart Johnson posted:Thanks for the info, what location were you in? The team here in Denver falls under "AIM Technology", whatever that stands for. Anyway, the job description involved re-writing/modernizing a bunch of legacy apps, so you're probably spot on. Austin, I was in their robo portfolio section. Basically grabbed poo poo off of a database with financial data and did stuff with it to display to clients. Using mongo to store financial transactions with strict schema typing = wtf r u doin
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qhat posted:If PTO isn't negotiable then sever lol. Yeah we'll give you tens of thousands more dollars a month but those extra 5 days are out of the question. Think about the kind of person who this makes sense to. as if the "spend half a work-day on our test and maybe we'll talk" thing wasn't a huge red flag to begin with
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