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Someone somewhere on the forums linked to https://hiring.cafe/ which has been a decent site for me. I've also found https://app.welcometothejungle.com/ to be decent (it's for startups, I think). On top of them, LinkedIn sucks a lot more now than it used to but it's still okay, Indeed is still strong as is ZipRecruiter. Dice is okay-ish still, but has done downhill. I say these sites are decent, but I have not landed a job off of any application in 5 years. My two last gigs were unsolicited contacts from recruiters. edit: Quoting from the last page so it's not missed: KoRMaK posted:strategy for LinkedIn: setup some saved searches targeting exactly the role you want, with and without including preferred language and see what the results yield. if they look like they're returning what you want, setup an alert so you get them soon after a job gets posted, and more importantly manually look at the search results for the stuff you care about once every two to four hours, you'll have a higher success rate prioritizing jobs that have less than 40 to 50 "x people applied" label in their header.
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Magnetic North posted:Someone somewhere on the forums linked to https://hiring.cafe/ which has been a decent site for me. I've also found https://app.welcometothejungle.com/ to be decent (it's for startups, I think). On top of them, LinkedIn sucks a lot more now than it used to but it's still okay, Indeed is still strong as is ZipRecruiter. Dice is okay-ish still, but has done downhill. this is the first I've heard of hiring.cafe, and holy moly is it way better than indeed and linkedin
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PIZZA.BAT posted:sign of the times that this thread is shifting over how to most efficiently crawl linkedin :/ Tell me about it. I’ll keep hiring cafe in mind though. My last attempt yielded just one interview after maybe 20 applications but from what I can gather that isn’t too bad (no offer though, rip)
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hiring cafe is the only job posting site i've used so far that seems to be designed with any kind of ease of use or readability in mind, but linkedin's metric for how many people are applying to a given position is kinda unbeatable for finding postings you have an actual chance of getting a call back on
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this is a 2023 thing but look at the fuckin spike at the first week and the general bumbling uselessness of subsequent weeks so even by the end of the first week, you can assume the inundation has happened, if you extrapolate out the poo poo nature of 2025 market from poo poo nature of 2023 market therefore linkedin search option thingy for "posted 4 hours ago", "posted less than 1 day ago", etc is actually quite useful
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bob dobbs is dead posted:this is a 2023 thing but look at the fuckin spike at the first week and the general bumbling uselessness of subsequent weeks when i started hiring peeps, i was surprised how many of the people i hired applied within the first two days i kept the reqs up, and kept interviewing strong candidates until the person started 3-4 weeks later req sniping is the best tactic, hit it as soon as its posted
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anecdotally, i've seen a huge spike in cold messages over the past couple of months, although they are for management roles.
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putative vp of eng level guy could not tell me the difference between a unit test and integration test and then it came out that he had never fired anyone in his life lmao
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bob dobbs is dead posted:putative vp of eng level guy could not tell me the difference between a unit test and integration test and then it came out that he had never fired anyone in his life lmao VP of engineering 2023-2025 Fart App, Inc. VP of Engineering for three person company reporting directly to the CTO and CEO.
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bob dobbs is dead posted:putative vp of eng level guy could not tell me the difference between a unit test and integration test and then it came out that he had never fired anyone in his life lmao
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Truman Peyote posted:anecdotally, i've seen a huge spike in cold messages over the past couple of months, although they are for management roles. Same actually, not the management part but a slight uptick in random recruiter spam
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qirex posted:oh man interviewing candidates is only about 10% less awful than being the candidate
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Anyone complaining about hiring right now can do themselves a favor and hire me, the obvious best candidate.
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FMguru posted:whoever said it was a market for lemons really understated the situation can i interest you in a position with our client which is developing cutting edge child-killer missiles for israel? you won't be working on the child killing ai though, we're looking for people with vb6 and oracle experience to do maintenance on the reporting system in their in-house erp system written in classic asp. this is a six month contract-to-hire position in bumfuck missouri, it is, of course, in office five days a week. pay rate is "competitive". looking forward to hearing from you soon, please include pay expectations in your response! ts clearance required btw. (it's an exaggeration yeah but not much of one at this point)
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Magnetic North posted:Anyone complaining about hiring right now can do themselves a favor and hire me, the obvious best candidate. no, people should hire me. I'll debase myself, will you??
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death cob for cutie posted:no, people should hire me. I'll debase myself, will you?? i'll rebase myself. how's that?
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qirex posted:I know it's not worse because you at least have a job while you're doing it but oh man interviewing candidates is only about 10% less awful than being the candidate how many peeps have you interviewed which are clearly putting the questions into chat gpt. it was 2 for me.
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:how many peeps have you interviewed which are clearly putting the questions into chat gpt. it was 2 for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwZ8PtoqCeU
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:how many peeps have you interviewed which are clearly putting the questions into chat gpt. it was 2 for me. only one so far
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:how many peeps have you interviewed which are clearly putting the questions into chat gpt. it was 2 for me. i'm p sure one of my remote coworkers is an ai
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vonnegutt posted:i'm p sure one of my remote coworkers is an ai while i do not claim to understand johnny-5's management style, he has proven himself a more competent employee than you
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:how many peeps have you interviewed which are clearly putting the questions into chat gpt. it was 2 for me.
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Deviant posted:while i do not claim to understand johnny-5's management style, he has proven himself a more competent employee than you yeah another coworker and i have basically decided that an ai coworker is probably better than the median coder at this place
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Sapozhnik posted:can i interest you in a position with our client which is developing cutting edge child-killer missiles for israel? you won't be working on the child killing ai though, we're looking for people with vb6 and oracle experience to do maintenance on the reporting system in their in-house erp system written in classic asp. this is a six month contract-to-hire position in bumfuck missouri, it is, of course, in office five days a week. pay rate is "competitive". looking forward to hearing from you soon, please include pay expectations in your response! ts clearance required btw. not much of an exaggeration. i was cold-contacted by agency looking for a one-year contract to hire, five days a week in the office in a terrible part of town, for Fiserve (who’s ceo is going to work at dismantling Social Security for trump), converting their legacy .net printing apps to java microservices. they ofc asked what vacation i would be taking and where else i’m interviewing as part of the application
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how come i get application rejected from places like vanta with never getting an hr call. do i need a referral to get noticed at these types of places?
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barkbell posted:how come i get application rejected from places like vanta with never getting an hr call. do i need a referral to get noticed at these types of places? we prob cant tell you
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barkbell posted:how come i get application rejected from places like vanta with never getting an hr call. do i need a referral to get noticed at these types of places? probably something about your resume isn't getting picked up by their automated system. use one of those free online ATS scanner things to make sure your resume isn't getting garbled. (my nicely designed pdf resume got garbled enough times that i have a super basic .docx resume now)
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qirex posted:I know it's not worse because you at least have a job while you're doing it but oh man interviewing candidates is only about 10% less awful than being the candidate Well, ideally you also have a job while you're interviewing too, but it is 2025.
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New one on me today: one where you not only had to put in your previous experience manually, but you also had to select the company from a dropdown. There was no option for "Not on the list." 
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what was on the list???
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the employment experience equivalent of "we only hire from these top 20 schools"
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barkbell posted:how come i get application rejected from places like vanta with never getting an hr call. do i need a referral to get noticed at these types of places? are you applying to fresh postings? the way it usually works from the employer side: - they post a job and get a bunch of applicants - a recruiter, probably using automated tools, screens and grabs maybe the first 25-100 resumes that look like they might meet the requirements into a longlist. this list is almost certainly sorted oldest-first - the hiring manager looks through those and figures out who they'll actually shortlist/call back - everybody who was after that initial screen is out of luck even if their resume is perfect - eventually the applicants get an auto-rejection once the position is filled or closed they don't send auto rejections before then since it's possible to run through the longlist, not find anybody, and have to go back for more. but that's not super common and your odds are progressively worse the later you are referrals get around the initial filters but the other strategy is to just focus on fresh listings as much as possible, then get through the ats, and then have a resume that makes people want to call you
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yeah, you got 6 hours before a posting cannot be assumed to be good anymore. realistically 90 minutes. sometimes they stay good but it cannot be assumed. lasts like raw steak, not like beef jerky
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Today's annoyance: a first-level screener with a technically-illiterate moron who I have to try to convince not to discard my resume for a listing I am well suited towards because they're too loving stupid to realize it is fine. Cool. Cool cool.
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Space Gopher posted:are you applying to fresh postings? the only thing that's missing is someone saying "i don't hire unlucky people"
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scalper bots but for job postings
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Sapozhnik posted:scalper bots but for job postings I'd be shocked if this isn't already happening
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vonnegutt posted:probably something about your resume isn't getting picked up by their automated system. use one of those free online ATS scanner things to make sure your resume isn't getting garbled. (my nicely designed pdf resume got garbled enough times that i have a super basic .docx resume now) can you link one that isnt a scam?
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