interviewing: Senior by reference, not by value

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prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

Bloody posted:

are there any special considerations or things to ask when you're exploring internal transfers

determine someone within the org whom will have a better understanding of the overall situation than yourself whom you trust to ask that question.

ask them that question.

e: this is my way of saying, "there are lots of organization-specific concerns, I'm not sure forums folk will be able to help you pinpoint more or less important concerns"

# ¿ Oct 17, 2018 18:02

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# ¿ Oct 11, 2024 09:23

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

meatpotato posted:

holy gently caress they wanna give me an offer

i could be un-unemployed soon.

congrats

meatpotato posted:

an offer at 一家很大科技公司

您的figgies祝贺

# ¿ Oct 17, 2018 21:20

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

Both sides of this slapfight suck but I think nbsd sucks worse for instigating

# ¿ Oct 18, 2018 05:13

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

NYC is a loving cool place. Seattle is at least okay. It could be pretty hard to live in either unless you have a lot of money. Finito.

# ¿ Oct 18, 2018 05:14

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

Diva Cupcake posted:

pull the trigger. experience new things. get figgies.

congrats.

# ¿ Oct 20, 2018 02:00

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

maybe some day I'll leave the skill/industrial niche that I've made my career in so far, but probably not with the next move and I think I'm done changing jobs for a few years after that

# ¿ Oct 21, 2018 01:45

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

Diva Cupcake posted:

two jobs ago we had multiple (2-3) people over the course of 6 months quit within the first week as a result of senior leadership selling the company and roles as something they weren't.

employers lying about the company and role: a very good reason to never be interviewing with fewer than 2 companies

# ¿ Oct 24, 2018 15:17

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

Luigi Thirty posted:

I didn't get the job at Large Tech Co

Dang sorry weegee. Keep on truckin it's pretty clear you have some mad skills

# ¿ Oct 29, 2018 19:52

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

Accepted an offer that's still in ${HELL_INDUSTRY} but I will get to handle a pitchfork and I'll have a few trusted coworkers with me in the boiling pits of sulfur :yeah:

and the figgies are better ofc

# ¿ Oct 29, 2018 19:54

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

Luigi Thirty posted:

I didn't get the job at Large Tech Co

but someone else at Large Tech Co told me to apply for a different team??

might get another trip to California baby

gently caress yeah get comped travel, get figgies too

# ¿ Oct 30, 2018 04:22

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

in a tech workplace it is generally pretty hard to make people feel safe asking for or receiving help (something about a field dominated by marginally or poorly socialized men + one-upsmanship) but that's something I'm looking for in a workplace / looking to support wherever I go

a dude was let go like two weeks ago and he made a point on his way out of thanking me. inside my head I was like "I remember being patient and helpful but Jesus I only helped you twice what a loving desert this workplace is"

# ¿ Nov 2, 2018 19:26

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

Rex-Goliath posted:

current job the bonus is quarterly and starts at 50% utilization and then ramps linearly to 133%. their very simply logic is that if you're going over 133% then gently caress you take a god damned break before you kill yourself, moron.

q: 133% would mean averaging 53.3 hrs / week billed to clients? that does sound pretty aggressive (unless it's acceptable to bill time not spent specifically on client poo poo to clients, which, lol)

not going to think too hard about the billing targets of the lawyers in the waffle family.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2018 21:33

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

people treating each other like human beings is an underrated attribute in a workplace

# ¿ Nov 2, 2018 21:33

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

KoRMaK posted:

I'm very open to that idea, but I don't think I was a dick about offering. I was always really supportive of helping them. I was very very patient with them, but I will say I wasn't absolutely perfect. It was a very trying relationship. They didn't know anything about how like classes or instances worked, or how variables and their scopes were defined, which means they basically misrepresented themselves in the interview. So anyway, whatever it was I was tooooo much of a dick from his perspective. But for me, and the other devs that had to work with him, they said I demonstrated really good patience.

uhh yeah, it sounds like the root issue is that the person did not have the foundational knowledge they were supposed to. did y'all have a clear moment of "you are supposed to already know this stuff" / "we have a problem and you need to study up on some poo poo" type communications?

# ¿ Nov 2, 2018 22:19

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

ADINSX posted:

what they wont talk about is ideally it means less people they have to employee

stannis voice FEWER

Bloody posted:

well i just got my first faang offer and its literally a hundred thousand dollars more than i make now and so far blows the rest of my offers out of the water. like, this is what i expected, but it still blows my mind to punch it into the "offer comparison" spreadsheet. like. drat.

grats Bloody

# ¿ Mar 29, 2019 05:44

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

pointsofdata posted:

Is putting dollar amounts in your cv on projects you've worked on a good idea? I've got one which has a fairly clear value attached and (for the number of people involved) quite large cost savings. idk if it seems a bit tasteless though.

counterpoint: I've seen academic CVs with grants and grant amounts on them.

also it's tyool 2019, tastelessness and self promotion are concepts of a bygone era.

# ¿ May 27, 2019 15:03

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

gum up the works while collecting figgies, imo

# ¿ May 30, 2019 17:13

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

raminasi posted:

do what you gotta do

which might be leaking or whistleblowing in addition to making money

hmm now im wondering what kind of insider threat program uber runs

# ¿ Jun 7, 2019 15:58

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

jesus WEP posted:

lol that the country who doesn�t want the drat gubmint telling them what to do, is perfectly okay with their corporate overlords doing same

it would be a restriction of free speech if they can't make you tongue-polish their wingtips

# ¿ Sep 3, 2019 18:27

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

Cucumbers posted:

If using BMI means that less people will be eligible for discounts, then yes they will absolutely keep using that as a metric.

*stannis voice* FEWER

Captain Foo posted:

I got enlightened as to how bullshit these programs were years ago when I didn't get my discount because I didn't improve my BMI (which was on the high end of normal) because I literally was too muscular

qhat posted:

rofl are companies still using BMI as a useful metric for determining what your discount should be? amazing

pathetic little tramp posted:

Unless you get to sit in one of those water tanks a la Dragonball Z while they use the displacement to get a perfect measurement of your fat percentage, you're not getting a useful number.

why would we use a valid measurement for assessing health when we could just act like huge idiots and punish people for, roughly speaking, being fat or "being fat"

# ¿ Sep 4, 2019 16:33

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

Ferr posted:

So, I didn't get the job because I couldn't do something that's not that job

that sucks and I wish it sounded more surprising

# ¿ Sep 6, 2019 18:07

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

Cold on a Cob posted:

who the gently caress does this ityool 2019??

the loneliest recruiters, lol

# ¿ Sep 6, 2019 21:05

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

referential integrity: not just about bribery in sports

# ¿ Sep 12, 2019 17:02

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

not only is weapons-adjacent engineering morally or ethically suspect, in my experience the organizational culture, choice of technology, and many other elements of work were not great. I�m sure other people have had different experiences and there may be more professional or skilled and motivated workplaces than my sample, but I know what I know.

a couple of years doing that kind of work in a few places left me feeling like a lot of defense spending is, in effect, welfare/make-work for STEM degree-havers or can feel like it. This is a sentiment that I have found in other people who worked in or near defense.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2022 05:18

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

qirex posted:

in the future the drones will be able to use facial recognition, personal info databases and machine learning to write a valid legal justification for your death in the time between the release of the projectile and it killing you

by the time we get that far,

quote:

lol. lmao.

will be considered a perfectly valid reason for murder by drone.

# ¿ Nov 4, 2022 14:56

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

PIZZA.BAT posted:

i know you�re half joking but i�m really hoping the salary talk at the end of this doesn�t sink the whole thing

the big problem is that due to their size & fact that i�m the first person in this role being hired there isn�t any data at all on glassdoor for me to use. i was able to hold my ground on not saying a number with the first call with the external recruiter so she told me $currentSalary + 30%. it�s quite high in my opinion, especially for someone based in pittsburgh, not silicon valley. i feel like that�s already going to be the upper end of their range, and it�s a number that will enable me to be VERY comfortable. like straight up pay the rest of my mortgage in short order comfortable.

so yeah i�m thinking i may be on the �know when you�ve won� side of the negotiation. granted this is going to have a bit of light sales sprinkled in as well so negotiating shouldn�t necessarily be a bad thing

#blessed #getthosefiggies

# ¿ Nov 30, 2022 14:16

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

Quackles posted:

�from entry level to catte�... that's the dream, though, isn't it?

catboy entertainment officer?

# ¿ Dec 3, 2022 15:51

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

raminasi posted:

in six weeks i am going to start a job writing go to run in kubernetes on gcp, despite having literally zero experience with any of those things. i didn't even lie and say i did to get hired. someone's probably going to quote that tech stack and say "condolences" or something but whether they're ultimately right or wrong, their opinion now is far less valuable than me giving it a shot and seeing what happens so i know for myself.

i did this same thing, except i was moderately familiar with go, despite never using it in a job

Plorkyeran posted:

people talk about how easy it is to read go but my experience with it has consistently been that that's only true if you're talking about it on the level of how easy it is to understand an individual line of code. it's very reminiscent of bad enterprise java except somehow even more verbose

meh. when there's a bunch of indirection ("what's on the other side of this channel?") or struct tag reflection magic it can be pretty opaque but like... large volume of code which is, at a line-by-line level easy to understand? that's not too bad imo

hot take: people are bad at reading code. imo having to live in a moderately complex codebase and do a lot of navigation through "find symbol", "find usages", and generally stuff that leans on a language server or IDE to enumerate or navigate "X uses Y" was EXTREMELY HELPFUL to my development as a code fuckler.

"jump to symbol" is literally necessary to do even the most superficial analysis of "who put a value in here?" / "what happens in this function / subroutine?". "jump to usages" is literally necessary to figure out "if i make a change here, when would that changed code run?"

edit: was I a big whiny baby when I got dropped into a huge codebase with almost 0 support from coworkers to figure it out? yes. did I start using IDE navigation to figure it out anyway? yes. did IDE navigation eventually make me more effective at getting around the codebase than people who had been working on it for years longer than me? yes.

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# ¿ Oct 11, 2024 09:23

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

Captain Foo posted:

job interview on Monday

merry yotj, o captain my captain

# ¿ Jan 21, 2023 19:35

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