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ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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Is there a compelling reason for you to have anything listed from before ten years ago?

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Aug 23, 2007

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Not a Children posted:

engineering masters are weird in that they tend to be more like academics refreshers that don’t actually enable you to do your job better than like 6 months of well- directed practice but they ARE an important checkbox for HR so despite their actual worthlessness they’re an important marketing tool

get the cheapest easiest fastest masters you can find and make someone else pay for it. applies less if you can actually make it into a namedrop-level program but even those can be pretty farcical

The floor is set pretty low for master's programs but the ceiling is not. If you're interviewing, pay attention to the candidates rather than their credentials. If you're looking at programs, think about what you actually want and go for that.

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Aug 23, 2007

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JawnV6 posted:

having dealt with reams of code from both you should run screaming from the one who wants code like an electrical engineer

:hmmyes:

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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If they're not looking at hiring you specifically to unfuck them, your attempts to help will not be welcome. If they are looking at hiring you specifically to unfuck them, your attempts to help may not be welcome. Tread carefully.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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YOSPOS > interviewing: INTJ er view

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Aug 23, 2007

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Achmed Jones posted:

"provide training to interviewers"

What does good training look like?

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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There's another staff engineering book that's available for free online. I haven't read the one that The Fool linked to, but this one is very good.

Staff engineer positions are still pretty standardized across companies but there is a little more variation than you'd see at the senior level. Since you know what some of the specific duties are here, you should expect to get questions about your experience with those things or similar work. At this level, the questions you ask can also play into how they perceive you, so think about what you'd need to know in order to decide whether the role is a good fit for you. You should also expect to see some technical questions that they'd throw at a senior engineer, and the bar may be higher for your answers depending on the company.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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It's people thinking they're advanced because they (think that they) understand all the ideas that they've been exposed to. I used to see it with candidates for a job that required C++ programming who would rate themselves 9/10 with two years experience.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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Sometimes the honest feedback is that you were fine but they found someone else they liked better. Not much you can do about that.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Valve's been doing that for a while and they're famously ineffective and toxic.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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From what I've heard it's not that everyone at Valve is miserable, but there's a definite in-crowd, and if you do anything to cross them, you're going to have a really bad time.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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ABET accreditation mostly involves required courses in physics, chemistry, multivariable calculus and differential equations. Not really all that useful for most of us.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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You always run the risk of running into someone who left Ohio and wants to talk about it though.

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Aug 23, 2007

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GenJoe posted:

internship money is comparatively very low to what you're going to be making later in your career yeah, the resume-impact and career alignment are going to be way more important. as long as they've got your housing covered I'd go w/ what's in your gut.

:hmmyes:

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Aug 23, 2007

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Aug 23, 2007

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Armitag3 posted:

Merits an entry on the rapsheet I’d say

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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Put it in the OP.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Asleep Style posted:

work has been pretty poo poo this week, which has me thinking about what I'd rather be working on instead. I think that answer is dev tools. the projects I've enjoyed the most at previous jobs have all revolved around improving the dev experience for the project team rather than adding a new feature to the widget we were building

who hires for this? is this pretty much the domain of FAANGs or companies whose product is a dev tool? is this an area that has been hit especially hard by layoffs?

most of my experience has been with startups in medical devices or medical adjacent, with my current job mostly boiling down to backend for a CRUD app. is there anything I can do resume wise to help sell myself for a role like this? does having written a neovim plugin with a few dozen stars count for anything here?

If you're working primarily on developer tools you're not directly contributing to the bottom line and that makes it easy to justify cutting your position. Go for it if you want, but just be aware that that's a potential issue.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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The flipside of that is once you get a better sense of what you're interested in you may still have to do all the other parts.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Money is important but it isn't everything.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Hail job Satan.

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Aug 23, 2007

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I'm not gonna totally disagree with that.

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Aug 23, 2007

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You can get relatively cheap housing in Brooklyn and Queens, or even in Manhattan outside of the Hail Exclusionary Zone. You have to go a ways out to get rents below $3500/month, but if you're posting here odds are good that you can be in a position to comfortably afford that.

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Aug 23, 2007

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It's also very pro-cyclical even for a sales job.

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Aug 23, 2007

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fawning deference posted:

The advice about wanting to be more hands on in the code is ... I don't. Coding isn't really my passion or what I am naturally inclined towards. I think being in more of a leadership role is where I would be most valuable. Another way to put this is, instead of being the guy relied upon to make the technical implementations, I want to be the person to empower the right person to make those implementations. I am naturally good at upskilling, mentoring, and managing people, making processes and workflows more streamlined, improving communication and interfacing between tech and business, etc. Something like Engineering Manager seems like where I want to end up.

I don't see how you can be prepared for a role like that without at least a few years experience at the senior level or above. It's a nice long-term plan, but for now you need to keep your nose in the code in order to move towards it.

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