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I've only really ever been to chicago once and it didn't seem terrible
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Jan 18, 2018 00:53
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PleasureKevin posted:is this allowed hobby lobby is getting ballsy
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Jan 21, 2018 16:44
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the way we do postdocs at my workplace always feels weird; like they get paid nothing and are in a pretty exploitable position but at the same time they could just apply to a real job here and get paid more and do the same thing... like i dont understand why we have a postdoc program outside of legacy reasons
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Jan 23, 2018 18:43
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the fun thing is is I can't tell if Im super bad at my current job 
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Jan 23, 2018 18:52
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whenever i have to go to the east coast for meetings or whatever, i kind of make a dumb point out of making sure i don't dress in my everyday working style but i don't go all out because screw those standards
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Jan 24, 2018 19:04
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i had to dress like i worked at a bank for a long time so im not really doing that again without a real occasion
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Jan 24, 2018 19:08
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I don't know, fortune 500s may not have the immature scandalous insane toxic culture that the worst parts of tech have, but they have their own mess; its like a racism in the north vs racism in the south situation -- and you can settle into kind of a comfortable misery also if you're not the organization thats doing the primary business then you'll always be stuck in an everything/nothing hell, people breathing down your neck to get something done or fixed but when its compensation time you'll be dismissed to the end of the line
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Jan 25, 2018 07:00
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he wanted to let you know he was too cool for school, just like zuck and gates i mean peter thiel said college is dumb so
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Jan 26, 2018 22:14
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also this is now my favorite photo of thiel because its a horrible libertarian monster posed in the most government management headshot
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Jan 26, 2018 22:17
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carry on then posted:first, i'm talking about internship interviews, so if you aren't let's just drop this talking past each other fest why aren’t you just doing everything at all possible times? come on but yeah it’s just memes about qualifications leaking
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Jan 27, 2018 16:12
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when we hire interns, some people are bigger sticklers on GPA than others and we do have a minimum standard at which point if somebody is below it then we need a good argument on why we should give them a pass on it I put kind of a medium weight on grades for student interns, because school is kind of your primary job at that point and its an ok proxy for what kind of effort you're putting in, but at the same time I know very well there can be extenuating circumstances for a less than stellar gpa; other than that all I really check is what their course background is to see if they have stuff that lines up somewhat with any project I might want them to work on and if they can speak to them like they at least paid attention in class students are students so evaluating them by the same rubric as you would a more experienced professional is dumb as hell; of course they don't know the same things -- the reason for them pursuing an internship is to get experience they would otherwise not get in school and for first job candidates its basically the same -- they're entry level people getting their first job
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Jan 27, 2018 16:51
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qhat posted:Lol at good grades taking the same amount of work as a full time job i think this is really sensitive to universities and and what peoples goals are in school; I know its a common meme that elite schools are just for wealthy kids to have proper signaling and keep the poor away, but plenty of them have programs are much more challenging than you might encounter at another institution because they're feeding hyper competitive research areas and/or prestige concerns, and they likewise are filled with hyper competitive students that will put graduate-level effort into things like there was a kid from the podunk town my cousins live in that was a high achiever in high school and ended up going to Columbia; got there and discovered the place was full of students just as if not way more competitive than he was, had attended way better schools than his little rural high school; between just how competitive the environment was and how different he was from other students, he just couldn't cope and ended up dropping out and committing suicide I sometimes think that I should have attended a top tier institution; I probably could have gotten in somewhere and given that I lived in a rural poverty shithole even worse than my cousins town really and my parents weren't exactly rolling in money, I probably could have received very good financial aid to a private school at least I also think its a good idea sometimes that I didn't; I still notice a lot of the effects of the mediocre to poor secondary education I managed to pull out of my piss poor rural high school, between that and unmanaged mental health issues I freaked out enough just attending the average, not even really ranked state university I did attend, so attending some more elite institution might have just resulted in me turning out just like that kid did I mean I freaked out pretty bad a few times when I was making some graduate studies attempts at Stanford, so I don't know how well undergraduate would have gone for me in a place like that
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Jan 28, 2018 00:55
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lol I think I would send an invoice for that interview
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Jan 29, 2018 03:34
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Jan 29, 2018 04:27
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it's probably a perfectly fine salary for the candidates they'll take tons of company will put on an internal/external face of wanting the best and the brightest but then offer no comp and no work that would be even interesting to anyone and then filling up the place with people that are cool with it for one reason or another
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Jan 31, 2018 20:58
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I remember some guy stopping by my old workplace to do some presentation on open source basically he had a scanner you could use for projects to determine license strength to make sure you could commercialize your product, and he was pushing companies to open source products so they could externalize maintenance costs
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Feb 1, 2018 15:10
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the use of a lot of wide-scale contracting in enterprises always feels illegal to me but what do I know 
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Feb 1, 2018 18:06
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because they're not actually independent contractors in pretty much all cases?
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Feb 1, 2018 18:08
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like the last company I worked for had a huge contractor presence, and contractor vs employee was pretty much indistinguishable my thoughts were either a) this is somehow ok and I just dont know why or b) they were counting on nobody realizing this + being a large fortune 100 company with a big legal department, political power, and legal war chest
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Feb 1, 2018 18:13
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like on my team alone, it was my boss, myself, and 3 contractors the contractors and I did the same kinds of work at the direction of my boss, and as far as I could tell this was standard practice across the company -- management was employees, except on larger projects where there might be some substructure of a contractor acting in a more leadership role of some of the other contractors but with an employee manager on top, and then a mix of employees (keep the project knowledge available in-house) employees and onshore/offshore contractors of various sizes this also appeared to be standard practice for all the companies in the area, and some people even had little contractor businesses of their own that were working at our company (this changed later when the company decided to exclusively hire from the large firm where most of our contractors came from and didn't renew the smaller contractors, replacing them with staff from this larger company) the only things I could think of is -- maybe its ok because most of them work in a building across the street (but this also seemed to be motivated by not having enough space for employees so they would push the contractors out of the building, sometimes employees had to work in another building for the same reason -- no space), and their contracting firm managed all their PTO and benefits (but as far as I could tell they would still need to work with their employee manager to take that PTO)?
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Feb 1, 2018 18:36
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if there's one thing i've learned from the interviewing thread, its that a lot of people have internalized the abusive practices of the industry as actually good
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Feb 8, 2018 19:01
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Coffee Jones posted:also this interview isn’t for any specific team, this is the end of a final stage interview and they’ll do a cattle call and the managers will just take their picks well yeah there's no specific job that's being hired for, we just know we need more bodies because we need to scale to anything we start trying to do since we aren't sure on what job actually needs to be done, that means we need to hire generalists which we will define as people just like us because we think we're generally excellent so we need to just hire more people we think are just like us, in massive scale
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Feb 9, 2018 01:01
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Valeyard posted:I'm reading the 'cracking the coding interview" book just now, very slowly it still makes me sad there's a whole cottage industry around this stuff well beyond cottage now, that stuff has venture funding anymore as they're blurring the lines between help guides and practice sites and hiring boards
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Feb 12, 2018 22:00
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hobbesmaster posted:i assume you ask them that so you have a not illegal reason for only hiring white male stanford grads
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Feb 12, 2018 22:12
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there was a story the other day on bbc ws about the future of AI interviewing also Laszlo Bock had a bit on it and it was a good reminder that afaik everything he ever talks about, google never did, so idgi how he keeps getting to run around using that position as a source of prestige for this knowledge
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Feb 20, 2018 18:23
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tbh i think buck-passing is a time honored tradition almost everywhere
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Feb 24, 2018 00:31
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I think the first time I encountered fizz buzz was on one of those code puzzle websites as like the first or second problem That was back when those websites were just dinky things for fun instead of the venture funded job listing and interviewing sites they are currently
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Feb 26, 2018 01:04
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Penisface posted:I only found out about fizzbuzz because people were mentioning it online, but I have no problems in using the modulus operator in everyday coding life when I need it, so if it ever comes up in an interview, I think it's no problem. As much talk as there is about how what’s really important is communicating your thoughts and everything and we’re just using this to help us feel out how you solve problems, much like everything in life that uses that talk, 90% of the time all they actually care about is if you do it right and in a period of time with a process they like
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Feb 26, 2018 02:04
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i just want to say that work is bullshit and this thread is testament to that
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Nov 30, 2018 21:18
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sometimes i think tech has an especially lovely "wrong side of the heuristic" hence all the depression itt sometimes i feel like i choose the incredibly wrong career path
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Nov 30, 2018 22:00
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in an industry whose original puzzle interview format got thrown out only recently (and still probably not universally) and whose real intention, interviewer conscious of it or not, was to see if you could confidently bullshit right to their faces and have them buy it, I don’t think openly saying “I don’t know” is a good idea “Sounds like you’re giving up brah, not curious enough, not driven enough, not Stanford material enough”
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Dec 1, 2018 15:19
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as another counterpoint to this thread: my wife can pull more than I do some years, has better rights and representation, and has a much nicer interview process also a likely more diverse workforce the only downside she has vs my mode of employment is fewer prospective firms to work for, but she can pretty much walk into a job in any of them and the worst thing she'd have to deal with on any regular basis is pretty vanilla workplace politics for which she often has real recourse
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Dec 3, 2018 19:17
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basically working in a field with standards and unions owns is what I'm saying
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Dec 3, 2018 19:18
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plenty of non-profits screw over their employees wrt pay while offering OK benefits; the big money part tends to show up in being a sinecure for someones relative in the c-suite positions
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Dec 6, 2018 21:21
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It’s being gay
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Dec 7, 2018 06:30
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I think my first job was like a week of combined sick and vacation that jumped to two after 5 years
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Dec 8, 2018 22:06
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at the end of the day, as computer touchers, aren't we all just outsourcing our jobs? makes u think 
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Dec 9, 2018 06:41
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tech in that I was obstensibly a developer yes; other than that no but it was a fortune 500 still
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companies like that kind of prey on university pipelining since a lot of the people I worked with were from the same institution or another nearby one and they recruited there pretty hard like i had no idea what's good or bad, i was 4 years out of my crappy isolated nowhere rural village and i was getting paid more than my father did i got screwed over a lot in that job at least that job let me weather 2008+ without things coming out too terribly
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