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Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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gettin laid off at the end of september, whooo. havent had to look for a job in close to 10 years. linkedin still the goto for that? got my first job though craigslist so idk

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Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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a question for the people who have done this more than me; ive been looking at job listings and found a few that look decent but they require "expert" level skills in a language i have no experience in. should i bother applying to them? i have 12 years experience in other languages and am pretty confident i could pick one up given a few weeks but im scared that i would go into an interview and get asked some basic language specific question and look like an idiot

Kuvo fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Sep 4, 2019

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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florida lan posted:

depends on what else they list and how closely that fits your non-language skills. if the role is like "low-level network programming BUT IN ERLANG" and you do low-level network programming in something else, gently caress it and apply, maybe do some practice/tutorial readthroughs if you get past the phone screen.

if it's something that really and truly requires expert knowledge of a language (idk, writing a compiler for it or w/e), then reconsider, but most postings aren't that

one of the companies i was looking at has both a frontend js/react and backend python positions. my current job is full stack js/knockout/c# so maybe i can ask them to fit me where they think i would work better

barkbell posted:

apply to every position. if you are junior apply cio who cares. it’s their job to reject you.

ya this makes sense. ill apply and see what happens. thanks

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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Schadenboner posted:

Applied for another job I won't ever hear back from!

:woop:

:yossame:

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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got though a screen call and got a tech interview setup next week. cant wait to completely gently caress up something easy like a fibonacci sequence!

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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blew my interview cus I froze up on a loving compsci 101 question. is there a site someplace that has a list of those style questions that I can practice on?

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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Symbolic Butt posted:

leetcode.com seems more focused on formal compsci stuff than hackerrank imo, practicing the easy problems on both websites is a good idea.

if you really want to get all the way into interviewing problems bullshit then studying the "cracking the coding interview" book is a must.

ill check these out, thanks

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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elite_garbage_man posted:

Just had a recruiter read a script to me for like 5 minutes straight without pausing to take a breathe.

Dude wouldn't even let me stop to ask to know more about things rofl. god drat.

this happened to me earlier today as well. dude i dont care about the details of your series b funding

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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Penisface posted:

nice

turns out that the guy responsible for my interview process got sick (last thursday),
which means nobody sent out the take home,
which means there would have been nothing to talk about during today's scheduled onsite,
which means we rescheduled for next week, tentatively

but me being professional i had taken out pto for today afternoon (which i managed to cancel in time, luckily)
there is still no e-mail from the company, only a verbal agreement with the recruiter

actually i am feeling like this is a mess.. i am not sure if to treat this as "regular french company disorganization" (not meant in a bad way - different countries have different ideas of work culture and communication), or this is a clusterfuck that i have no interest in

feeling like the latter

i just turned down an offer from a company cus they somehow stretched the interview process over close to 4 weeks by constantly rescheduling poo poo. the onsite interview was a clusterfuck of the lead interviewer trying to ask me questions and also typing to his coworkers on slack to try to get them scheduled to show up to meet me. i got a gut feeling the whole company was like that so i said nope

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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man i loving hate whiteboard interview. was given this prompt today

1. write a new method that recieves an int array parameter
2. find the duplicate in the array and print them out ONLY ONCE using console
example:
input: 8, 3, 4, 5, 2, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 3, 6
output: 2, 3, 4

to which i answered...

code:
	    var groups = input.GroupBy(a => a).Where(a => a.Count() > 1).ToList();
            foreach(var g in groups)
            {
                Console.WriteLine(g.Key);
            }
which i thought was nice an elegant but i guess the interview wanted me to spend 20 mins doing it without linq yielding...

code:
 	    Array.Sort(input);
            bool printed = false;
  
  	    for(int i = 1; i < input.Count(); i++)
            {  
                if(input[i] == input[i-1] && !printed)
                {
                	Console.WriteLine(input[i]);
                	printed = true;                
                }
                else
                {
			printed = false;
                }
            }
I get its an exercise to see my thought process but who does it like that? its makes me feel like an idiot to bumble though reinventing the wheel

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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well i just got a call from the recruiter saying they want to move forward with the in person interview next week so i guess i didnt gently caress up that badly. if i talk to the guy who did the tech screen ill ask him what his rational was for that answer

Penisface posted:

i think the correct way to proceed in this case is to ask the interviewer "what should this algorithm be optimised for?". i.e. is this a situation where you have a working naive solution and you need to optimise it for something like:
1) complexity and execution speed matters most, i.e. they want you to micro-optimise that poo poo
2) you are restricted by memory or something else, i.e. they want you to provide a solution that scales in a cloud architecture
3) you just need something that works, optimisation can come later
4) needs to only use 13bit integers because gently caress you

ya after the call yesterday i was thinkin about it and its basis probably had something to do with restricted memory / process time optimization but that wasn't really specified in the question

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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i got a job :unsmith:

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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JawnV6 posted:

the outputs of a hiring process are not correlated to the inputs this strongly

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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PokeJoe posted:

Alaska is ok but their hq is where I live so there's lots of decent flights. ymmv

I've been flying with them a lot in the last couple years (out of SFO) and they're so much better that United it's comical

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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EIDE Van Hagar posted:

nice job!


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don’t
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ever
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say
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a
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number
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this really should be in the OP in big red letters

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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PIZZA.BAT posted:

:thunk:

not gonna lie i’m kind of speechless



PIZZA.BAT posted:

the tech poc take home assignment that i did two weeks ago? they knocked me an entire title because i didnt prepare a powerpoint presentation for the demo. i was hoping that maybe today’s interview would provide a different angle and maybe allow me to clarify things. lol nope

lmao run the gently caress away

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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ultrafilter posted:

Finance might be OK if you stay the gently caress away from traders. I didn't and boy howdy was that miserable.

can not quote this enough

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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PIZZA.BAT posted:

welp they called me about an hour after this post and offered me the job. base pay is about equal to company #1 but i countered them up a bit just because. even if they reject it i'll still take their initial offer. gently caress yeah traveling for work sucks

congrats!

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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recently had a former coworker who i was on good terms with reach out to me on linkedin asking if i was interested at a position at their new place. i emailed the CTO to get more info on the position and it sounds like i would be a perfect fit. they want to set up and interview and of course asked for a number. any suggestions of how to tactfully deflect/respond to that? particularly with the knowledge that 1) i currently have a stable job i don't mind 2) i have 15 years experience doing the exact type of work they want 3) i have a good recommendation from my former coworker. something more than the usual "i have faith $COMPANY can make a competitive offer based on my skillset and experience" to indicate that theyre guna have to go a bit farther to get me to switch

Kuvo fucked around with this message at 21:31 on May 23, 2022

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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correct, no numbers from either side yet

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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https://twitter.com/terminallyOL/status/1622571890513526784

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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imo if software devs want to be called 'engineers' so badly they should have to study, apprentice, and certify like the rest of the engineering professions

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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my office collectively and unspokenly decided at the beginning of covid wfh that we would never turn on our cameras and i am immensely thankful for that

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Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

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