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Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

i've always done nice shirt+slacks and some decent shoes, never jeans/tshirt/sneakers which ive seen a few times

i really should buy a suit since then only one i have is from highschool graduation and it doesnt fit anymore (shocking)

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Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

the only message i've ever got from someone on github was like "hey put a license on your code so i can use it for homework thanks"
they probs still used it for homework anyway

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

Poniard posted:

I've stopped talking to almost everyone this past year and have no personal references (who are also professional). I don't have any contact info for any of supervisors from before my last job but it isn't like you'd remember some no-name kid from ~5 years ago anyway

r i p

:same:

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

i decided to do aspnet to learn webdev and all it got me was ???

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

when i interviewed at epic several years ago i brought it up and the guy said something like "yeah we sometimes do like around maybe... 60 hours a week but you know just look at this place!!"

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

Gazpacho posted:

and what did you see

lots of nerds

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

crs: redoing my resume to put more emphasis on my personal programming garbage since i haven't been gainfully employed as a software toucher for years
kill me

also wtb resume advice, i can pay in wow tokens

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

Pollyanna posted:

i guess im just not impressive enough? the guy said at the end that i did pretty well so i guess go gently caress myself

from my experience this means nothing. i've been rejected with a "sorry we don't think you can code well" after being told during the whiteboarding that i'm coding well

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

i really don't like some of these places that have taleo portals for jobs. i know more than once i've applied for something with an old resume/cover letter because there was no way for me to check what i was actually submitting until i'd already sent it

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

i know someone that was fired under less than friendly circumstances and any time someone would call for a reference her former boss would say "sorry, you need to talk to HR" and then HR would tell the caller "Sorry, you need to talk to her boss"
hopefully the person calling got the message

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

linkedin job posted:

We're running an Online Hiring Tournament on March 3rd to hire Chief Software Architects (USD $100K/yr) with expertise in C# (.NET) OR C++ OR Angular OR Ruby on Rails OR PHP OR React. If you are not familiar with any of those technologies, you should not attend the event as we currently have openings only in those roles.
This event will include testing. Upon grading the deliverables from the event, we will set up qualified candidates with an interview with the hiring manager, who can hire 20 Chief Architects this week. This is a 100% remote, full-time role.

so i guess there are now literal tournaments to get job interviews? why is touching computers so bad

edit: also editing this to say i ran into another good one
a company that had a dropdown list for college major. Computer Science, which was clearly asked for in the job listing, was not actually on the list
they also had a mandatory "Desired Salary" field that would not take 0 (but it took 1)

Shaman Linavi fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Mar 3, 2018

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

Ator posted:

do people use Indeed Prime?

i got an email from their "Engineering Lead" advertising the site

i think i'll just work through regular recruiters.

right after i signed up for Indeed i got an email about it
i signed up for it and forgot about it until you reminded me with this post

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

what's a good protocol to use when applying to jobs that don't seem to have any place to attach a cover letter?
sometimes i will put it in a pdf with my resume, but usually i just pout a little after spending time writing it and leave it off

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

thx 4 cover letter info, i will just keep on not sending them most of the time
fwiw i think i've only seen 1 place that specifically said something about a cover letter being required

also another lol

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

HoboMan posted:

oh, we can ask about openings? anyone looking for a developer who has done a little bit of everything in the twin cities?

:same: except socal

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

i'm guessing the emails linkedin keeps sending me about the 130,000 fantastic new jobs in my area are somehow related to companies that keep reupping the same job postings
also its me, the junior dev that can't get junior dev interviews

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

Analytic Engine posted:

I would have been ok taking an internship to break in as a junior dev, but it seems like those are only for college kids

hella same
also seen a lot of places where the only junior positions specify "must have graduated college in the last year" or something

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

if my experience is anything to go by, they graduate by bugging people around them to share their work and just turn that in

i took a class where the prof wanted us all to do Pair Programming. my partner rarely showed up after the first day so i was stuck doing all the work solo. i also ratted his rear end out and the prof was cool with me just putting my name on stuff. almost felt a little bad about it but dude told me he would handle the last assignment for the class and flaked on that too

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

so what you're telling me is i should respond to these linkedin recruiters looking for Senior devs even though i'm not a Senior dev?

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

cool, i finally got a reply back from a job on stackoverflow! let's see what they want me to do!

quote:

1. In a word document please explain to me how to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
h8 2 live

(to be fair the next few questions are more on topic)

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

wow, i don't feel so bad now quitting my last job that was literally killing me
it certainly didn't help my employability but at least im still able to post ??

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

quote:

Our client base is both stable and diverse and to keep things exciting we put 20% of our resources into potentially lucrative but risky startup opportunities. If your vision doesnít include retirement before age 65 then this job is not for you!

like, what does this even mean? instead of paying people more they invest money into startups that keep failing?

edit: i think i reading this wrong the first time but it still sounds silly

Shaman Linavi fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Mar 19, 2018

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

all those words are making me feel even more unemployable now

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

in more job hunting being garbage news, friday i got an email from Indeed Prime saying "hey sign up for us this is cool!!" whatever and so i did. afterwards they sent me an e-mail saying everything looks good and hey here is a link to HackerRank to take a short programming thing to make your profile better, just do it next week some time!
yesterday i got an email telling me they don't think Indeed Prime is right for me? yeah, i guess some of these filters even contradict themselves or something
still going to take their online coding thing because it never hurts to practice whiteboarding

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

i don't mind not hearing a response from a company after tossing my resume into the void but it seems bad form to just ghost people after they've done a phone screen or something

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

just noticed a grammar error in the short blurb i've been sending out when i apply for jobs through snack overflow :negative:
even worse: its for QA jobs

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

HoboMan posted:

so I've never done this before, how do you sneak off for interviews during the week?

make a show of eating a bunch of bean burritos the day before and then when you take off the next day people will just give each other a few knowing nods

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

rip me for dropping java after college to bing c# right up my rear end

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

kloa posted:

but vsstudio isnít garbage like eclipse :sigh:

this is unironically why i stopped using java

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

Rex-Goliath posted:

i mean- flaunt it if you've got it. if you don't really have a concentration yet and are happy being a 'jack of all trades' then by all means lean on that in your resume since that will make you look best while also painting an accurate picture.

this is what my resume ends up looking like since my only dev job was embedded c++ and that was year ago, also it was mostly QA compared to my current bullshit with ASP.Net
also those consulting firms that are like "Wow we will teach you how to program 10 weeks get paid any college major OK" dont even bother sending me rejection emails lol

edit: i would also like to say indeed is a piece of poo poo to search. they seem to really love throwing >50% sponsored jobs into every search, showing the same jobs on multiple pages

Shaman Linavi fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Mar 25, 2018

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

i think my best interviewer gone missing experience was when i was scheduled for a phone screen early in the morning and they didn't end up calling until around 6:30PM while they were stuck in traffic after leaving the office

wasn't too upset about not hearing back from that one

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

Valeyard posted:

"how would you explain X to your grandparents"

for real i find questions like this to be pretty offensive because it assumes they have poo brain
and you know they wouldn't take "well gram gram used to work on X when it was called Y so i wouldn't really have to tell her much" as an aswer

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

i think one of the big mistakes i made when i was looking to end my super long commute was saying "yeah i think i might kill myself if i have to keep driving 3 hours to work" when asked why i was leaving

do not recommend

edit: also just finished 2 assessments of grammar and basic math :downsbravo:

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

finally hit a company that won't schedule a phone interview until i give them a salary number
guess ill just tell them again that i'm not comfortable giving them a number and then wait for the "sorry, we can't move forward with you"

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

qhat posted:

number that is about 50% greater than my current salary

i used this method to get a number for the company that wouldn't move forward without one and i think they ghosted me

im still super upset that the feds pulled my job offer but if anyone else wants to be a fed compy toucher the US Army Cyber Somethings put a bunch of stuff on USAJOBS.
of course i applied because i hate everything.

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

went to apply again at a place i interviewed at last year and couldn't find any way to update my resume on their page. so much for that i guess.

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

quote:

Join a company who is growing, awesome building, and laid back and people focused company culture.

if the people writing stuff like this are the people reviewing resumes maybe i shouldn't worry so much about having perfect decent grammar

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

imo they tossed it because you did
code:
++tempFilecounter;
instead of
code:
tempFilecounter++;
i mean i'm still waiting to hear back from the company that had me do a little JSON thing/write about a PB&J sandwich but im guessing they long since tossed my resume. maybe some companies don't know what they want but are good at knowing what they don't want :shrug:

Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012


my first "software dev" job sounds very similar to yours except mine was in the medical industry. its nice to find people with similarly lovely experiences.

in funny job posting new, went to apply at a place that forces you to watch a video about the company before it takes you to the application page.
and in sabotaging my own jobsearch news, i found out i had a lovely sarcastic phrase hidden at the bottom of a job description on linkedin. not about the company or anything, but about being a volunteer worker and hearing stupid poo poo from people. im hoping my recent string of ghostings has more to do with bad recruiters than a stupid sarcastic comment but too late to worry about it i guess.

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Shaman Linavi
Apr 3, 2012

i applied to two separate but similar positions at different locations for a large company. i've been moving along the process with the more desirable of the two but a separate HR person contacted me about the other. i think im just going to start the process again with the other position and i figure they will eventually notice i applied for more than one position.

maybe its bad form to apply for multiple openings but i'm going to apply when i see something that looks good instead of wading through the list of poo poo on a job listing page and making sure its the best

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