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I held an interview where I asked the canidate to do a fizz buzz (lay off I'm new to being the interviewer), and he heard it as "two five". I felt insane wondering if I had actually said those two words as criteria When I tried to clarify, he went "ohh!" And changed the five to "dud" The well known programming interview whiteboard question "TwoDud"
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2018 21:22 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 12:55 |
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Even if you haven't heard of it like, dude, clarify the criteria would ya
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2018 01:15 |
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Pollyanna posted:i guess im just not impressive enough? the guy said at the end that i did pretty well so i guess go gently caress myself lol relax. stewin won't lead to screwin
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2018 01:36 |
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We had someone turn us down because we have stupid rear end watson-Glaser and trimetric or something assessments before you come in for an interview. Man, do I want that guy to come work here because gently caress yea that poo poo is stupid and I bet he was probably a good programmer.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2018 01:48 |
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Pollyanna posted:whiteboarding is bullshit and useless tbqh Whats a better way? Honestly open to it because I'm new to this
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2018 02:22 |
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Pollyanna posted:interviewers for whiteboarding sessions should have to solve the problems they present in them before they can give them I did this, my team could. My questions were pretty general, recursive find and fizzbuzz. If you can't figure your way through those (or haven't done anything similar before) then your development skills are below what we are looking for. They are pretty easy problems to solve, especially in psudeo-code.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2018 02:34 |
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Analytic Engine posted:Anyone ever interview or get interviewed as a Data Journalism/Visualization specialist? D3.js, Tableau, R, etc No, but I wanna. Gimmie that job description please
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2018 00:16 |
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Man, I've been really hankering to get out of Ohio and get to the West coast. Spent time on Vancouver last year and loved it, but it gets cold and rainy. I'd really love to live somewhere where it feels like summer (70+ F) all year round. San Fran sounds nice, but I hear there's a lot of poo. Somewhere around there, or silicon valley would be cool. I'm a lead Dev at my place and do a ton more than that due to our small company size. I had to log into my LinkedIn for the first time in 6 years and now that I remember the password I'm thinking about updating it.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2018 02:42 |
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PokeJoe posted:dunno about deserve but im pretty sure you can get 90k in the bay as an intern even Jesus Christ what am I doing over here. So, question about culture out there. Is it super competitive? I guess it's hard to gauge since I haven't done interviews out there but I have this perspective that west coast is more competitive as a job seeker than here in the Midwest. However, there are probably less tech jobs per capita here, so maybe it's not? How many hours are you actually working a week as a salaried Dev, because right now I float between 40-50. Is it the same or is it crazy high like 60+
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2018 02:53 |
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Yea I plugged my salary here into one of those cost of living calcs and it easily doubled it for San Jose area at like $190k. I... I have no idea how realistic that is for me to get out there where it seems like an intern makes $90k. Guess I should just go try! And start my asking price at $160 and see how little response I get.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2018 03:03 |
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jony neuemonic posted:pollyanna take the job. get paid and continue interviewing, it's fine. is it a thing that Vancouver is kind of unfriendly?? My first time was really welcoming but my second time wasn't as much
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2018 03:31 |
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When I was there I was in that part of town with all the loading docks that's super trendy and saw an icon on a door that I didn't expect to see. Turns out slack has an office there.jony neuemonic posted:keep in mind i'm from the east coast which is almost unbearably friendly but yeah, i find people here pretty awful (but fine in victoria, so it's not like i'm writing off the whole coast here). What's friendly on the east coast? Do you mean USA east coast or Canada?
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2018 03:41 |
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Jimmy Carter posted:btw thanks YOSPOS, because the one question I kept asking people was 'Who sets milestones and what happens when it's looking like they aren't going to be hit' and that seemed to impress everyone I asked.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2018 05:52 |
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Yes yes we all have but that's not the discussion at hand. If you're a remote worker I would recommend using video chat as often as possible. Even if it's for a 30 second question. Just make sure the other party or parties is cool with it
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2018 18:39 |
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Half-Life 1 compiled .bsp's
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2018 23:25 |
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Blinkz0rz posted:most of the people posting in those threads (or really any thread about tech jobs on these lovely forums) aren't management and, as such, see management as the enemy or at the very least a group of idiots who have no idea what they're doing Yo
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2018 13:17 |
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I had my third of four interviews thursday, it was a pair programming sort of session on coder pad where I had to get 21 tests to pass. I got a buzzer beater and got them passing by the 61 minute mark. Killed it. it was a great journey going from overwhelmed to completely finish the task Got word back today from the recruiter: 4th interview won't be happening, they won't be flying me out for the on premise inteview. They said that my approach wasn't TDD enough and that the solution wasn't clear until later in the session. Um.... okay. Guess I don't know how else to code when someone wants to watch me live stream a new problem for an hour. I ran the tests after every couple of line changes once I had my main pattern up, which took about 30-40 minutes, and used the failing tests to drive my further development to zone in on what I was missing to make those last couple of tests work. so seems pretty TDD to me So i dunno, feel like the feedback was a little garbage and that i don't really agree with their reason to pass on a candidate that got the thing completely 100% done (which others haven't apparently) just because my path to the solution was windy at first. How the hell else am I supposed to find my way? e: oh, the test was to take in numbers and convert them to roman numerals. I snagged a copy of it if anyone wants to try it - its in ruby.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2018 02:25 |
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Symbolic Butt posted:"actually the correct solution was recursion" so you better get used to it, interviewing is garbage and all that. I did use recursion! it revealed itself to me as the solution around the 20 minute mark after I wrapped my head around all the dumb cases that roman numerals have. It's actually just one dumb rule, applied over and over! Yea when the recruiter said I wasn't tdd enough my head exploded. It also makes me wonder what daily life is like there, and is there a huge gap in my programming knowledge and there are places that do the crazy tdd-masterrace sort of programming that I will just never even get a glimpse of? Basically the feedback sounded like bullshit but also triggered my impostor syndrome Or maybe the rejection was just bullshit i have no idea!
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2018 14:50 |
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I love ruby, I daily it, but at my shop I didn't get into the zealot sort of evangelical nature of it. Seems like the community hamstrung itself and got the language a bad rap with that. smalltalk also sounds like it would have been cool to program in in like 1989
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2018 16:13 |
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Achmed Jones posted:it’s actually worse than that, the company Kormac applied tonisn’t particularly tdd-heavy at all, the interviewers were just being goofy lookin forward to a pm! raminasi posted:roman numerals tdd is a known kata so they probably had some specific solution in mind I guess i should look at some though, just to brush up
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2018 18:46 |
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akadajet posted:yeah. it's crazy. where do they come from?
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2018 06:03 |
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Coffee Jones posted:yes, man. loving katas like you’d been flipping pancakes, decided to do this software thing one day ginned up your entire resume + experience on the spot. I'm inferring what you mean here, but yea the fact that I didn't already know the answer, and didn't take the time to read other solutions to inform my approach, is what I think hosed me. I googled for some libraries that would have implemented the solution, but was looking for a specific thing (packaged gems) and skipped over some gists I found. I should have said "oh hey I see some other solutions, I'm going to read those for a minute and see if they help guide me." My problem at the time was that I thought that would be like cheating, as if this was a test in school, intead of acting like it was any other work that I do which would mean "google it and read stack overflow and what other people have done" So, in closing, a small mistake I made during the interview that is practically inconsequential to my actual talent, experience and daily workflow discounted me from the roll of candidates. interviewing is huge time garbage
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2018 21:16 |
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A guy quit and in the exit interview said it was because of me and he couldn't work with me. I'm the lead dev on the team. He sucked and couldn't debug his way out of a paper bag. The team is already getting more done without em. Overall, feels wierd to be hated like that. I was always reaching out to him to help him, but there is a bit more I could have done during his intro period to make sure we understood each other's personalities.
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2018 18:50 |
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jit bull transpile posted:maybe you were being a dick about offering help
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2018 22:11 |
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Yea a reaction like that can cause a problem and sounds condescending and poo poo, so i rightfully avoided any sort of suprised sound reaction. And now I have a new interview set of questions to sus this out before it turns into 6 months of pain for either party!Pie Colony posted:500k rsus
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2018 04:48 |
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those are more initialisms that I don't understand!
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2018 04:51 |
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I want a new job. One that won't make me sick. One that won't make me feel to bad. Or make me feel three feet thick
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2018 00:15 |
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friend sent me this from his PMP book (some sort of product or project manager cert thing)
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2018 03:56 |
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Achmed Jones posted:I interviewed with a company today and it was a startup but I also really liked the company and if the figgies are right maybe I’ll do it but change is scary. as much as my current position frustrates me it’s a p great gig so leaving would not be easy Should I re apply under s different alias?
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 20:20 |
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oh my god I just realized that interviewing for programming jobs is its own loving field that you could spend hours doing. Like part time amount of hours learning all these loving katas and different dev processes like tdd or ddd. It's it's own specialized field. How annoying. This came rushing to me as I read this as I was giving a new friend recommendations http://codingdojo.org/kata/RomanNumerals/ quote:* if you don’t know an algorithm to do this already, can you derive one using strict TDD? Question two feels like such a "duh" from me, which then makes me a little concerned with what I don't know. anyway, I came across this because I'm helping a buddy and all the different poo poo he could do to learn and get a job came rushing to me and I realized how much time you could spend just on interviewing stuff alone. I'm going to send him this thread instead.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2018 02:44 |
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ADINSX posted:someone suggesting I tdd a problem before I even know what the gently caress I'm doing I still don't understand what "tdding the problem" or "strict tdd" practically means. Does it mean not using an interactive console to do prodding and instead all experimental code changes get run through the test and thats the only way to get an answer?
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2018 05:11 |
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ultravoices posted:the glengarry git ross leads
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2021 04:59 |
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ive started interviewing again, aggressively. thanks to the op and the thread for providing the questions, they help and also make me sound smart 10+ years in web dev, full stack, on a product that went from prototype to enterprise with multiple regions across the globe. recruiters and interviewers seem pretty excited to talk to me which is nice. I have to remind myself to be picky tho. I'm just so loving desperate to get out of my current place because we just merged and the new mgmt is so so bad and killing the team that made the winning product they just bought. it's so blindingly stupid how obvious it is
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2021 05:03 |
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the two owners are now c levels, and engaged in day to day activities. The former technology director isn't managing the engineering team though, and instead is cleaning up the abysmal mess of the hosting team for the other product. What that means is that the engineering team that I'm on is left to be managed by the SVP of engineering of the old lovely product and so this stuff is getting run into the ground while the new CTO is busy bringing their lovely old hosting team up to what our product used. It's just a loving mess, and both owners got paid so much loving money they don't care
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2021 05:30 |
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startup interview went well, moving onto 3rd. the equity vestment plan was 3 year with a cliff, which i wanted to ask the thread if it knew those buzz words. from the description i got from the recruiter, it's is the one where i get the 100% vested at the first day of the 4th year, and nothing until the first day of the second year where i get 25%. so, day 366 of employement i get 25%, etc (i think, i was wlaking when i was tlaking to the recuritier and didnt right down the specific) i googled it, and from the description it sounds pretty fair, but i wanted to ask the thread what they think about those buzzwords, is that a good, bad or fair vestment schedule for working as a sr/lead dev at a 4 year old startup in series a?
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2021 01:54 |
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CMYK BLYAT! posted:equity is not a reason to work at a startup nowadays.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2021 02:43 |
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thats what i figured. only depend on what i can take with me if they offer in the base salary i outlined ill be happy. and if i hve to work 60 hours a week for too long ill just loving quit! its so simple
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2021 02:56 |
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what's the other stuff worth knowing? Knowing the valuation of the company and what the denominator of shares is? Something else? I'm really stupid here, first time giving a poo poo due to first time being in this situation, so I'm asking probably dumb questions
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2021 04:36 |
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Corla Plankun posted:I've only worked at 5-6 places but the one that didn't have a coding test hired a dude who literally had no idea how to write code at all and didn't turn in a single ounce of work the entire time he worked there. We had a code challenge, he failed it, and we still hired him. And then he didn't deliver any code for like 6 months and said he was taking classes. that dude was such a confident liar. Looking back, that poo poo was hilarious
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2021 17:20 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 12:55 |
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ADINSX posted:What do you even do in this situation? Do you end it right there cause obviously that's a no hire and might as well not continue, or move forward for the sake of
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