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Bloody posted:felt very much like a generic tech interview the entire time. on-site was some whiteboard programming and some behavioral nonsense. Leverage it to get an offer at another company that doesn't have a terrible culture and work life balance. Or move and fix the commuting issue at least. Just to make sure, you are taking into account Amazon's good awful vesting structure or they're offsetting it with a sign on bonus, right?
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2019 17:23 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 15:11 |
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Flat Daddy posted:last night I said gently caress it and just applied to all the big ones and got my first response. I’m hoping the process takes 1 billion years because while I’m really killing it with the strings and linked lists portion of CTCI, if there’s anything harder than those questions I think I’m hosed. If you aren't interviewing for a specific position, you can probably delay the phone screen and onsite by a month each if you want time.
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2019 22:44 |
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Acer Pilot posted:Whats the recommendation on asking for more money after the initial offer? Should I ask for all the other changes like vacation, retirement funds, etc right away or save that for after? You can split the discussion on benefits and pay, and I would do so given that a huge list might overwhelm the person. If it's in person or phone, bring up both as part of the same call but not at the same time. It's also very unlikely that you can change 401k matching if that's what you mean by retirement.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2019 03:38 |
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Acer Pilot posted:Thanks, that's what I meant. The Canadian equivalent at least. No mention of it at all in the offer letter. Are you trying to get 30% more to boost the FAANG offer? I'd probably wait till you got through the FAANG round before trying to negotiate as having an offer that is higher is stronger than just asking. Be sure to tell the FAANG recruiter now that you have an offer on the table and need them to hurry up. I'd ask for an additional week from the other company. Say you need time to discuss such a huge decision with your family if you want to give a reason. If they haven't given you the benefits information ask for that and then say you need time cause they didn't give it to you.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2019 07:53 |
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I would highly recommend you document everything. You may have no intention to use it now, but you don't know what will happen in the future and if something comes up documenting everything then may be hard or impossible. For example you have access to slack conversations with both your manager and coworkers now that you could lose access to.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2019 20:14 |
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At least ask for a signing bonus to cover the bonus you're losing by leaving mid-year.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2019 22:38 |
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KidDynamite posted:there's no initial value provided for rsu grants and the vesting schedule is 25% every year and they're granted in april. so 1 year 8 months before i see any of that. You're effectively working for 8 months without the RSU portion of your compensation which is atrocious. If you don't need this job I'd ask for a signing bonus that is worth the bonus amount that is prorated plus the value of 8 months of RSUs.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2019 00:40 |
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pathetic little tramp posted:I was very lucky in the job I just accepted. They asked me for a number, I decided "we're at the end of this process, let's put my number out there" and they came back the next week with an extra 15k on top because the CEO decided to stop asking for a number and make salaries data-driven to eliminate unconscious biases when hiring women. This is the reason you don't give a number. Chances are very high that the range is higher than 15k more and you could have asked for more.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2019 22:44 |
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PIP might as well be six months notice.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2019 19:08 |
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My understanding is that in the US your employer can change your compensation at any time. If this is true, then I'd probably try and take the approach of getting a higher total salary to compensate as I'd guess that they're going to lower the bonus amount anyway.
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2019 02:19 |
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Chopstick Dystopia posted:I'm not in London but it seems like salaries there are terrible. Maybe try working for a remote friendly US place. Either this or get a job at a US company with a location in London.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2019 03:01 |
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Janitor Prime posted:Hey guys, I'm curious what kind of bargaining I can do with Google and if anyone has any experience with the FAANGs. I'm a Sr Developer with 10 years of experience and I just finished an interview with them yesterday that I felt went really well. The recruiter mentioned they were looking to hire me for a Sr/Team Lead kind of role for YouTube in San Francisco. Google doesn't typically negotiate unless you have a competing offer or competitive current total compensation. They will pay for relocation though it's at a fixed rate, I believe cash for new grads and a weird point system for everyone else.
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# ¿ May 6, 2020 08:42 |
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I would highly recommend against taking an SRE role unless you want to become an SRE and do that type of work. In general switching back to a SWE will be difficult and require jumping through hoops and probably being de-leveled. From what I've heard Google treats their SREs better than most companies and values the role and I'm uncertain how easy it is to switch internally, but you are taking a risk if you want to leave and switch back. A rotation as an SRE would be useful for all SWEs to understand what is required to support production systems and how to design systems that are easier to support, but there is a large difference between that and taking a permanent role.
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2020 18:51 |
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EIDE Van Hagar posted:A bad interview can build on itself. This is terrible. You can't blame the candidate for sitting in the lobby for 30 minutes while the company is trying to get it's act together.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2020 01:37 |
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raminasi posted:one time i got a take-home that was clearly designed to test my ability to find some particular lock-juggling solution. (it may have been some standard algorithm, i don't know.) i couldn't reason out the solution they were looking for but i was able to come up with something that seemed right to me using atomics and concurrent standard library collections that passed their provided test suite. naturally, they didn't accept it. It's worse as you're going to be rejected if you're correct, but now if you're wrong they might reject you for writing a dumb comment. If you think they are looking for a specific solution that you don't know how to implement I would recommend stopping and not wasting your time implementing a solution they will reject.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2020 04:41 |
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Bored Online posted:whats the likelihood that applying to another position at current medium sized company would work in my favor? If you work at a company where your manager can veto your move then you should talk to them first.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2020 01:53 |
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You can state that you'd immediately accept if they offer $X, state that it's what you require which implies your making near it now, or imply you have another offer. Any of these is a stronger position than stating a third party source told you that $X should be in the correct range.
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2020 07:12 |
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I'm pretty certain the bonus they're showing on level.fyi is the annual bonus which looks to be 10% or 15% of salary. You can probably ask for a large signing bonus or ask for more if they don't meet your ask.
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# ¿ Aug 26, 2020 01:23 |
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The Management posted:so I’ve narrowed it down to two companies I’m talking with. one is a more interesting project but the company is a mess. second is less interesting but they have their poo poo together. Did you tell the first company you have an offer? That tends to get things moving.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2020 03:42 |
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Unless all the roles have numbers then Senior 2 was likely added to give a promotion between Senior and whatever is higher and is likely to be 2-3 years after Senior.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2020 02:52 |
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raminasi posted:an offer came in: If you mean that you would get 20% more, but at the old job 33% of your total comp is in stock, that vests at least yearly, then I think this is a lot closer than 20% indicates. The stock could appreciate and stock grants are rarely taken away while a bonus can be cut.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2020 18:01 |
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Boiled Water posted:anyone in this thread have experience living in and writing code for companies in the UAE? On the surface it looks awful, but awful with a ton of money. The people I knew who did this basically said they were giving up any semblance of a normal life to make a lot of money. The experience was very isolating and you basically only associate with other expats. They also lived in countries that wouldn't tax the income and fields outside of software dev where the difference was more substantial.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2020 20:58 |
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greps of wrath posted:I’ve been working for a FAANG for a little over a year now and to be honest I’m bored as gently caress. The problems are all trivial and I don’t feel like I’ve advanced much from my last job (windows lob software). I want to work for a startup to add some risk and excitement but Find interesting problems in your company and switch to work on them. If you can't find interesting problems in a FAANG, potentially excluding Netflix due to breadth, then the problem isn't interesting work. asur fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Nov 20, 2020 |
# ¿ Nov 19, 2020 23:20 |
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Any place that has a take home project isn't going to let you bypass it because you asked unless you have an internal referral.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2020 01:25 |
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PIZZA.BAT posted:the same reason they get off on drilling candidates on obscure trivia Rather than ascribing malintent I think it's generally more likely that the person who setup the homework did a version of it that quickly. If you're writing the problem you also have a pretty good idea how to solve it which cuts out all the design time and you probably have an environment already setup too. The person in question probably also did a trash job because they just needed it to work and if you could give them their own work they'd probably fail it.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2020 04:00 |
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Google asks a ton of random questions that are absolutely ridiculous because someone came up with the bright idea to let engineers come up with their own questions with zero standardization. It's supposedly not uncommon for the hiring committee to just completely disregard an interview because the question that was asked is unreasonable. It doesn't sound like this question should have been asked with a stipulation that the person use C, a language with next to no inbuilt libraries. I also wouldn't expect to every implement a hashing function or a hashmap in an interview.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2020 01:08 |
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If you're going to value stock options at $0 then why are you even bothering to interview at places that offer them. The compensation isn't going to be competitive with any place that offers RSUs because the company isn't going to value the options at $0.
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# ¿ Dec 18, 2020 17:48 |
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raminasi posted:this isn't a universal rule at all, what makes you say this Investors aren't going to allow a company to give away equity that they paid for. The company has a real valuation for the options based on the financing round(s), projected growth, and projections for future rounds and it isn't $0. It's possible there's some company out there that is doing this, but it's not common. I want to make it clear that I'm talking about total compensation so salary + bonus + options/RSUs and I've yet to hear of someone at a startup getting a salary that is equivalent to the salary + bonus + RSUs you'd get at a public company that is actually paying market rate. This is ignoring that it's far more common for startups to also have a lower salary component to conserve cash to extend their runway though this is possible to avoid either by negotiating or wisely chosing your startup to apply to. I should make it clear that I actually agree with those stating that you should value options at $0 or at minimum be very aware that there are a multitude of ways that a company can screw you. asur fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Dec 18, 2020 |
# ¿ Dec 18, 2020 20:14 |
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I'd try what was suggested above with your manager first, but if you're going to peace out anyway you don't have anything to lose to reach out to those that are working with you and see if you can jump to another team.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2020 22:58 |
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My offer from Amazon was trash in general, but the signing bonus didn't even make up for the lack of RSUs in years 1 and 2 and was even more lackluster in comparison because most companies give a signing bonus in addition to a sane vesting schedule.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2021 20:13 |
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cool av posted:sometimes I'm scheduled to interview a candidate after the CTO, and if CTO doesn't like the cut of your jib he immediately cancels the followup "wrapup" meeting. There is absolutely no reason to tell the person in this situation. The best thing you can do is conduct a normal interview and try to leave the person with a good impression. Also gently caress that dude who said a person's resume is garbage. You're never changing his mind so you might as well walk out and tell the boss or recruiter why.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2021 20:22 |
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KoRMaK posted:so waste their time instead? If you're in this situation I do think wasting a small amount of time that both parties already cleared is the better option than springing the change on the interviewee. Hopefully the real interview practice isn't a complete waste of time. Ideally the company wouldn't have an interview process where someone can shut it down unilaterally. If someone can do that then they should schedule the interview separately where the process can end after it.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2021 20:47 |
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It's very common now for the offer to state a dollar value for RSUs that converts to units of stock shortly after you start. I don't know why they didn't always do this since recent grads got to free ride on 9 -12 months of appreciation. This may be less common, but at my company refreshes are the same as well.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 23:33 |
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The biggest variance is housing from around $1.5k for a room to $2.5k to 4k+ for an apartment. I think prices have dropped, but I would expect them to start rising if not now then by the time you have to sign for year 2. I know several people who are living comfortably on $50k takehome which would be around 100k to max a 401k and 130ish to max after tax. These people are in $1.5k shared apartment housing situation so ymmv.
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# ¿ May 9, 2021 21:14 |
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If a company is pushing you to accept while you're waiting for other interviews then do so and bail if a later place has a better offer. Unless you're in a very niche area the bridges you potentially burn by doing this are inconsequential and you should do what's best for you.
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# ¿ May 14, 2021 20:25 |
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Do 0. It's pretty unlikely that they directly lie to you and at worst they'll probably be cagey or answer generically which gives you the information you need. Don't ask generically if the manager sucks. Ask specific questions on the points that matter to you. What's your day like? When do you come in or leave? When was your last vacation? Etc
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2021 08:37 |
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Joe Chip posted:i know there are a couple googlers in here so maybe you can answer this. i interviewed 5 weeks ago and haven't heard anything. is this a good or bad sign? i'm already talking to ms but i want to know if i should even bother thinking about it at this point Email your recruiter. In general I would say that's going be a no as the hiring committee should have a decision within two weeks though it's possible it's changed since I was there. Previous page: That response sucks without a lot more context. At the end of the day you do need to get a reasonable amount of work done, but if you can't do that the answer shouldn't be implied overtime. It also should be a rare event for the employee that actually sucks. If it happens frequently that's a management problem.
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2021 08:29 |
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CarForumPoster posted:I cant get over those loving figgies. Because a dev's value scales with the number of users and thus the FAANGs and others are not only highly profitable, but they're highly profitable per worker. There's not greater illustration of this than to compare Apple or Microsoft against GE in it's heyday. The same applies to doctors where like those old GE employees are working with their hands and thus can't scale. Judges are generally extremely well off prior to being appointed. No one is choosing to be a judge for the money
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2021 02:12 |
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Kernel Sanders posted:how are benefits taxed in the us? in Sweden at least, everything aside from a few sanctioned exceptions (gym cards basically) are treated as salary and incur income tax for the employee and payroll taxes for the employer making any benefits moot This is basically the same in the US, but the loophole is that if it provides the employer a benefit then they don't have to consider it compensation. Meals are justified under working during them, working more, etc.
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2022 08:50 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 15:11 |
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Everywhere should require paying all of a person's compensation for the duration of the noncompete. It would remove companies using it for the chilling effect, which is bad for the economy, and only use it when the competition substantially impacts the business.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2022 03:39 |