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Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

basically all good recruiters work freelance because that's where t he big bucks are. corporate recruiters are the bottom of the pack ones that cant cut it solo

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Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Gazpacho posted:

freelance recruiters are tremendous idiots

yup and yet still better than corporate

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

asking someone to implement a lock free queue in an interview could be interesting because it can be interesting to see how somebody flails in a high-pressure situation where they know they are going to fail

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

carry on then posted:

i dont know what that is

when can you start!!!

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

whats that tool that does text analysis of job descriptions for biases

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

what do you do again? some kinda EE right? come work in the seattle area

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

how do i interview people

Bloody posted:

i have to interview a person for an open position on my team. ive never interviewed anybody before, but i have been interviewed many times. obviously, nobody has bothered to train me or even provide a brief overview of how we do interviews at my company. how do i interview a person? i get a half hour one-on-one with them, which seems uselessly brief.

should i make them fizz buzz

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

i hate the ones that are like "describe a time you had to deal with conflict" because idk those moments are never memorable to me like ive generally worked w/ pleasant people and it hasnt been an issue so i just kinda stammer for a while

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

our demand is so high in so many places that i would say yes to any non-idiot i encounter, even if their expertise is underwater basketweaving

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

uncurable mlady posted:

ideally "devops" in a professional software dev org is mostly concerned with improving the efficiency and effectiveness of the sdlc via tooling and automation at varying parts of the process.

oh gently caress thats the job i wish i had

except not just for software but also for electronics

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

hey where's that thing for putting in your approximate job title, experience, and locale and getting back percentile pay bands

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

oh i found it. it was the stackoverflow thing

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

when theres a literal web form with validation that demands to not be blank i put $1

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

huhu posted:

I once got, "please enter a realistic number" after putting in $1.

1.000000

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

the hardest part of interviewing is finding interesting companies to apply to.

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Corla Plankun posted:

you're gonna hate your job, just apply to the ones with the best glassdoor reviews because at least those shitholes won't work you to death on top of being something you hate

lol if you think they're not just astroturfing

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

MrMoo posted:

I just don't see the quality of any product comparable to the wishes companies want of engineers, Elon's SpaceX is probably the only exception.

MrMoo posted:

I just don't see the quality of any product comparable to the wishes companies want of engineers, Elon's SpaceX is probably the only exception.

🤔

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

idk why that double quoted but 🤔

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

I'm gonna start responding to some recruiters on LinkedIn today

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

SardonicTyrant posted:

Is it wrong to want to stay at my current job for as long as possible so I don't have to do another technical interview? Because I still don't know how I passed the one that got me my job.

yes b/c you should always be interviewing

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

how the gently caress do i do a phone screen im supposed to screen someone this week

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Sapozhnik posted:

gee idk doing something i don't hate too much in exchange for not starving to death

honesty is not appreciated in the job search process

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

i did the phone screen and we just chatted a bunch and it gave me a good enough feel for "should we talk in person y/n" so mission accomplished i guess

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Grassy Knowles posted:

was it y or n

it was a y in the first 5 minutes then we chatted for another half hour

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Ploft-shell crab posted:

thinkin bout interviewing

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

im realizing i miss doing technical work and i dont know if theres a clear path to doing more technical work in my current position lol rip

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

kind of hosed up that i always conclude that changing jobs will be easier than just having a conversation with my manager about the kind of work i want to be doing lmao

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

i could probably pivot to being a systems engineer but that feels like an extremely pigeonholing move to literally just aerospace and defense

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

JawnV6 posted:

yeah, the other systems folks i know write wifi mesh router FW, web-scale CDN stuff

think how many systems engineers places like fitbit, jawbone, sonos, etc. have

to be clear when i say systems engineer i mean this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_engineering

aka requirements, verification, FMEA, MIL-STD-###, DO-### style poo poo

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

cool i just assumed everybody was like the last clusterfuck i was at and was just winging it for everything

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

(where "systems engineer" was shorthand for "embedded systems engineer")

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

my favorite part of power analysis is when the EEs come back with numbers that obviously violate the requirements and just say "well lets just change the requirements or waive them"

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

meatpotato posted:

9/10 of the technical interviews I've had have been stuff that seems straight out of leetcode though :(

the only one I enjoyed was the guy who handed me a sheet of paper with ~20 lines of C printed on it and told me to find as many bugs as I could, that was fun.

i like this one that does sound fun

i had a postcard from a company like that at a school recruiting event. it was p cool. i just emailed in something like well it looks like <XYZ> is wrong, but theres no documentation of what this function is supposed to do, so maybe it is subtly doing the correct thing and the only defect is the missing documentation :goonsay:

i got an interview

they gave me a five figgy offer

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

KidDynamite posted:

don't move their if you're brown

or not a cishet

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

the city of boston: its good
the people of boston: watch out!

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Progressive JPEG posted:

Boston and surrounding area is surprisingly difficult to get around in

the transit is poo poo
the roads are extremely poo poo
the bike infra is poo poo*

*or was when i left in 2010 after 7 years there

it's literally the best transit system in the country

except the green line is poo poo

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Mao Zedong Thot posted:

obviously the mta is the best transit system in the country

living on the east coast but not in nyc is p lol

the mta was the greatest then it went wholly unmaintained for decades and now it doesnt work

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

for some thread content how do i reply to recruiters that reach out to me that sound like not idiots like what are the correct things to immediately be asking or poking at or whatever beyond "uhh sure lets chat"

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Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

tbf this happened to every transit system in america not just the mta

ya for sure. mbta is only not horrible yet because more time needs to pass

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