Sometimes yes, my current company approved three months of time off for someone and he was still employed two years later when he left on his own accord so you never know I haven’t talked to a hiring manager who won’t tell you what the organizational norm is though so just ask
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2021 18:17 |
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2024 21:19 |
I was once given a box and could ask three questions about what was in it. Was also allowed to shake it. Immediately realized it was a flashlight, interviewer was all whoaaaaa. Some presales architect and a VP or something were having a screaming match while I was waiting for my interview, my technical interview was with a Russian guy who told me I was wrong about being able to open other machines event viewer from your own (and to his credit was like oh drat when I proved it to him), they were a wholly owned Russian company that focused on AD security, and they didn’t seem to offer what could be called health insurance. I turned that Netwrix offer down faster than any offer I’ve ever received.
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2021 18:18 |
People keep trotting that number out but it doesn’t mean you lost literally lost 7% of your overall purchasing power. CPI is measuring a rise in very specific costs, you’d have to sit down and look at your entire budget to figure out what it really means for you That being said get paid edit: to be more explicit, it would only erode your purchasing power at that rate if you spent all of your money on: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm code:
i am a moron fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Mar 9, 2022 |
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2022 17:43 |
PokeJoe posted:That doesn't mean other stuff didn't get more expensive too it's just not tracked by cpi Definitely. There's also regular ole monetary inflation. However, the real question is how much you're spending vs investing vs stuffing into a mattress. Not saying don't ask for 7%, but I think 6% is still likely coming out ahead on the balance.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2022 18:06 |
qhat posted:this is not an reason to not demand at least a 7% raise. everyone’s inflation is different and yes CPI is an imperfect measure, but it’s the figure we have to work with offered by the central bank who decides all monetary policy and you should absolutely be holding it to your employer’s head Yea sure, ask for 10%. I got mad about my raise and was granted 100k in stock (supposedly). I'm just saying I wouldn't look at 6% and take it as a 1% paycut, that isn't what happened.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2022 20:41 |
Corla Plankun posted:"if you spent all of your money on:" and then an exact list of all of anyone's major line items, almost all of which were greater than 6% is not as compelling a case as you think it is unless you assumed the bulk of everyone's spending in this thread was services ‘People in IT get paid quite a bit more than they need to spend’ is my point, if you’re getting paid 200k and spending every penny on consumption then yea that 7% is going to bite more. If you’re spending 50% of your income on that sort of thing it works out to less than 7% (half even! ). I have a large family with daycare and all that and I’m not spending 50% of my income on the stuff CPI is calculating and investing/saving/wasting the rest. Other people are talking about shelter and things - yea for some people that is going to be more volatile than others. If you have a low interest mortgage from five years ago that’s going to be a different situation then renting right now. Which is why I said look at your budget. edit: And I'm not trying to tamp down people's expectations which I guess this might come off as. Ask for what you want/deserve and 7% is fair game. I'd be happy with 6% though cause it wouldn't literally be a paycut for me personally. i am a moron fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Mar 9, 2022 |
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2022 21:22 |
AnimeIsTrash posted:They're owned by IBM now. That that as you will. If you want to talk about Ethics in Who I Get Figgies From, IBM helped Nazi Germany efficiently genocide people. There isn’t a more evil company you could work for in the tech space. gently caress IBM
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2022 12:30 |
PIZZA.BAT posted:apt username Haha oh man I walked right into that one
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2022 13:17 |
Most orgs aren’t doing that due to fears of destroying their teams and being unable to replace anyone, if a company wants to gently caress around they’re going to find out
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2022 10:12 |
I haven’t even provided references in a long time, let alone know of a company that actually calls. I’ve heard it’s a minefield of potential litigation (supposedly)
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2022 20:28 |
CarForumPoster posted:you're 100% convinced of something that is incorrect
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# ¿ May 31, 2022 13:01 |
Like dude those consultants don't have retirement packages and poo poo and are funded differently, if someone was trying to get hired quoting those numbers I would laugh them out of the building. it also sounds like you were being extremely unethical using that knowledge in negotiations and you used it wrong lmao
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# ¿ May 31, 2022 13:02 |
hobbesmaster posted:where are you where the “retirement package” isn’t a 401k match The ‘and poo poo’ for most companies is health insurance, other bennies and your standard 1.35x-ish loaded. There are state agencies in the US with 2x loaded due to retirement plans so ymmv I certainly have nothing but a 401k
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# ¿ May 31, 2022 13:43 |
PIZZA.BAT posted:i was one of the consultants that worked for them on and off and personally knew the other consultants working the project / was more senior than two of them. they cost $550k per year, not including travel costs which were also large, and it was effectively a 'forever project'. one of the consultants is still working there and has been working that client for over five years now lol I misread what was posted entirely, I thought you were asking for a little more than 500k. please ignore every post I made. that seems wild but I guess some people really love consultants
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# ¿ May 31, 2022 17:03 |
PIZZA.BAT posted:still lolling at this i had thought you were basically saying "I know the rate, give me a couple extra dollars we'll all come out ahead" which is generally frowned upon depending on the NDA's/etc. and was thinking maybe you meant running it through your own company or something. not using it to ask for a pittance. if you're lol'ing at business ethics
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# ¿ May 31, 2022 17:19 |
nudgenudgetilt posted:I dunno that I'd call it unethical, but were I hiring, I'd probably laugh them out of the room for trying to negotiate a w-2 salary based on their knowledge of 1099 salaries. same on the second part, although lately I think it would be closer to 4-5x if you have inner knowledge of billing rates/margins/etc. you gleaned from your time at a place, I would not openly use it in negotiating. i have been contractually unable to divulge/discuss that info in the past, and it's not hard I've known my own bill rate and margin for years. im sure my current client would love to spend less than $400/hr for me
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# ¿ May 31, 2022 17:27 |
PIZZA.BAT posted:and yes i did suggest he get creative with the job listing and instead open the offer to contractors for 3x the offering while i spin up my own llc and we just do that whole song and dance. he said it wasn't even worth trying probably just didnt want to get sued
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# ¿ May 31, 2022 17:34 |
PIZZA.BAT posted:i would have been the only one at risk, our contracts with customers were surprisingly forgiving. that is stupid, but if the client has enough leverage it might have been a pretty permissive MSA. ime you see way more legal action around enforcing MSAs than individual non-compete/non-solicits
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# ¿ May 31, 2022 18:32 |
nudgenudgetilt posted:allowing you to push them way harder everything you posted is true wrt management thinking except for this, you'll have much better luck whipping your FTEs to death
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# ¿ May 31, 2022 18:54 |
it's not a hell world thing if your SO lied to their employer so much they need a loving doctors note to avoid... what? a stern talking-to at a company they're trying to leave? id just tell them i was interviewing, your move buttholes you can't loving replace me idiots
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# ¿ Jun 7, 2022 18:48 |
those are just incredibly generic interviewing questions though?
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2022 17:10 |
i would like to be judged by the cosmic content of my character, an unassailable set of qualities only known to me. i cannot account for any actual actions i have taken
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2022 16:13 |
urea posted:If my answer doesn't have some information they want, they can just ask for more information ie have a conversation? oh ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2022 16:17 |
Last time I was asked that I said I’m sorry I don’t have any examples, I treat other people like human beings and don’t take my job seriously enough to have conflicts worth remembering. I got an offer
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2022 16:00 |
However I once got promoted a year or two ahead of schedule because my boss shoved someone else after they got into a screaming match after insulting one another and they both got fired lol
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2022 16:02 |
The Fool posted:good, now you have a story When I was asked about conflict I specifically asked whether they meant some kind of normal workplace disagreement about approaches, solutions, whatever or interpersonal. They told me interpersonal so I answered honestly, it’s not like I like everyone I work with but I don’t poo poo where I eat and I don’t get invested enough to have anything but boring interactions with people I work with.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2022 17:28 |
Anyone who takes project management methodologies or agile vs waterfall vs no system seriously are wrong thinking zealots. It doesn’t matter what you use, it will be as dumb as the humans using it. There is 0 advantage to having done agile somewhere before, other than the fact that you can be pretty sure whatever flavor your next company is using is going to be a stupid disaster that would be indistinguishable from just not naming whatever you’re doing so people can’t complain about how none of it is ‘really agile’
i am a moron fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Jul 1, 2022 |
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2022 11:18 |
distortion park posted:anyone seen much evidence of a hiring slowdown/increased competiveness in their jobs or job search? We've had layoffs and a hiring freeze, but are also an unprofitable start-up with garbage unit economics. Depends on where you want to work. Startups and fintech especially seem pretty hosed. I do consulting and most of our clients (lots of F500) seem to be just as inept at hiring and can’t fill all their open positions as usual. We hire 20-30 people a week (1700-ish total) people seem to have stopped quitting every six months for sure but that’s probably due to the uncertainty
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2022 12:03 |
champagne posting posted:I don't know what that means it's written. that's why they're telling you to read, comprehend, and then post. its like RTFM except for posting
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2022 04:05 |
It’s extremely loving weird even for leadership positions unless you’re not in the US then idk
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2022 04:40 |
alright maybe I have no idea what I’m talking about but I’ve gone deep enough to get offers the past year and haven’t even provided references once, is this a startup thing or something?
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2022 04:53 |
if they don’t pay for the inmail I decline and hit the ‘I don’t know this person’ button
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2022 14:58 |
vs code is fine, tuck those Microsoft hate boners up in your waistband
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2022 02:36 |
as someone with nearly a starting basketball lineups worth of kids who all do multiple sports/after school activities and a partner who also works full time I can assure y’all that anyone answering ‘my kids’ to the hobbies question would’ve had absolutely poo poo for an answer if they didn’t have any. the kind of mfers who would’ve said ‘watching Lost’ in 2004. i don’t know that I’ve ever mentioned anything about my family ever in an interview and I only talk to my bosses about it when I’m guilting them for not paying me more. obviously coworkers find out if I talk to them enough and it’s not like a secret but I think the only thing that question is designed to reveal is if you’re boring as gently caress or not and I dont think that’s protected
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2022 03:18 |
Secret poker games are only for people who are cool. This guy probably thought you were cool, turns out he was wrong. Maybe companies really shouldn’t be asking that question if interviewers are going to be so uptight about the response
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2022 12:11 |
I’ve worked with multiple companies that said gently caress office work for technical positions, not because of any altruism about work life balance or all that but rather that talent is easier to find nationwide and retain with remote. Requiring in office is asking to shrink your talent pool, but these companies are in a large Ohio metro area and not NYC or CA which probably plays a role.
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2022 20:58 |
Achmed Jones posted:i haven't interviewed since i started at google. i'm really salty about feeling like i have to start again, so im complaining about it on the internet instead of actually doing it I have a friend at google who, rather than using it as a reason to move, has leaned into the catch-22 corporate structure he finds himself in and is hoping to get laid off some day. Pretty sure it means he’ll wind up being a lifer
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2023 17:24 |
Achmed Jones posted:lol i want to learn his ways He seems pretty miserable tbh, hoping maybe it’s just his pride talking for now and I can convince him to work with me again sometime in the next year
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2023 17:32 |
PIZZA.BAT posted:if that's true then upper management is just as out of touch as ever. any middle manager who's halfway competent will cover for their well executing employees who refuse to come into the office. likewise under the middle managers who don't have the spine to pull that off it'll only result in purging all the talent that knows they can find another gig that will actually respect them. in addition to that all those people who got the axe *will* talk amongst their friends and associates and it WILL poison the well that is their brand name, further ensuring the only talent they'll be able to acquire in the future will be the useless or the desperate This is what happened at an office near me that employs like 10’s of thousands of people for one of the biggest banks on the planet. I don’t even know IT people over there, middle management in comms and marketing had to basically ignore the HQs return to office demands to stop the bleeding because they couldn’t manage to backfill and everyone was leaving so quickly it decimated a lot of their teams lmao
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2023 13:43 |
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2024 21:19 |
CPColin posted:One of these days, I would like to reply, "haha no", without even trying to negotiate If it makes you feel any better, it is not satisfying and usually represents time you would’ve better spent doing something else up to that point. dioxazine posted:the one thing nice about the offer is the 8% 401k match after the first 90 days. i expected that with them being a credit union, but dang.. pay is dire for wanting me work on-site for the first year Sounds like typical credit union stuff to me. IME they’re behind the times and the kind of folks they’re getting in the door wouldn’t blink at this crap unfortunately
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2023 19:16 |