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The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


You missed the part where he admitted to reading his bosses e-mail.

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Oct 16, 2003



Computer Serf posted:

Okay well to add to this they did give me a little bump in salary, and I randomly found an email printed out where the main department boss suggested I get the rate I asked for but the new VP was like ďIíll bet we can get away with 1/2 the differenceĒ

And someone else (main department manager) apparently recently pulled this off saying they were moving out of state in two weeks, and then they changed their mind, as if

Computer Serf posted:

itís almost like (cool) main boss guy wanted me to see that because both him and the VP have their own printers but they do both compulsively print everything out and sometimes theyíll use the shared printer because itís faster.

or maybe the gangster computer god was throwing me a bone on that one :worship:

Basically, he found the printed out e-mail, "went, oh my boss did this on purpose and wants me to ask for a raise" then pretended to have another offer.

The Fool fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Feb 24, 2020

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


GallienKruger posted:

I talked to the owner about being able to admin my local machine so I donít have to raise my hand and have the teacher open my juicebox everytime I want to update notepad and the reply was a gasp and ďbut thatís against policy!!Ē

I would have told you no too. policy is just an excuse, we donít actually trust anyone to have local admin

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


GallienKruger posted:

nah. if they trust me to make their software they can trust me to pick my own extensions

:wrong:

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


silvergoose posted:

haven't you heard about doctors who are super dumb and bad at everything except their doctoring?

and they donít even know theyíre dumb because they think that if they can manage to be good at doctoring they should be able to be good at everything else

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


your place of employment has bad security policies

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


pointsofdata posted:

Both my current and previous employers found ways to give developers local admin rights on their workstations. The previous one had loads of monitoring and everything ran on a vm in a walled off VPN (didn't even issue company laptops by default as you would just remote in to the vdi).

yeah, there a a few different ways to handle this.

privileged vmís like you describe where the vm is walled off

Iím actually a fan of time-based access controls
where you have an automated way to request elevation for a short period of time, you can install your snowflake text editor, then your privileges are reduced to normal

there are other methods, some better, some worse

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


most likely because the work you developers do is directly on a product that makes the company money

the company is just seeing IT as an expense / road block

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


starting the interview process with auth0, anyone have/heard experience working for them?

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Cybernetic Vermin posted:

when the financial crisis hit my bosses at lehman brothers informed me that we had enough cash for decades and decades.

lol

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


yes, if only for the convenience of one-click applications

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


dude, just start looking for remote jobs

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


please tell me you included the sucker line in your actual response

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I mean, if it's not MindGeek and they don't have a reputation for exploiting minors or revenge porn, then maybe all of it

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Schadenboner posted:

I don't know what that is and I'm probably better off not finding out?

It's fine. I don't even think they're that bad outside of owning a monopoly of streaming porn sites.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


recruiter just forwarded me the take home exercise for a position, it is literally just:

quote:

Make an HTTP request to a webpage and store the body of the request into a file. Once the file is created, create a new file that contains the checksum of that file.

this is the kind of thing where they're looking for candidates to add some bells and whistles to stand out isn't it?

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


silvergoose posted:

Not necessarily. Lots of people can't do that, or will make it needlessly complex or bad.

Now I'm second guessing myself.

Knowing that this position is an automation engineer type gig for azure + terraform + ansible, I was going to build it as an azure function that saves to blob storage and include the terraform configurations in my submission.

Would you consider this needlessly complex?

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


raminasi posted:

itís kind of weird that they didnít ask for any actual deliverable. like as written you could email back and say ďok I did it.Ē

Sorry, they did ask for a zip of the code.

The Fool fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Sep 15, 2020

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


PCjr sidecar posted:

I lean towards providing a simple curl | md5 example and a show off tf example.

nice to have something that can run w/o aws creds


PIZZA.BAT posted:

this would be the pro move, yeah

I threw together a .ps1 and a .sh and will do the tf/azure thing tonight

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


there was a big list of questions to ask at an interview floating around, anyone have it handy?

I have my own list but want to check it for things that I've missed

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


bob dobbs is dead posted:

in op of this thread

gently caress

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Mantle posted:

Not sure if you have the luxury to be picky, but if you do the Joel test is classic.

Never heard of it, looks good.

Thankfully, I do have the luxury. Am currently employed and comfortable, but when recruiters actually have interesting jobs to offer you I'm going to follow through.

PIZZA.BAT posted:

i had to google this and this seems pretty good

https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/08/09/the-joel-test-12-steps-to-better-code/

my previous employer gets a whopping score of 1 based on this test, and even then it's hard to give them the full point

my current employer gets a 5 solely through my own efforts and I would be money that the score would go down after I leave

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


interesting call with recruiter that brought me this position

they actually wanted to give me a coaching session so that I can be better prepared going in to the interview tomorrow

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


PCjr sidecar posted:

I lean towards providing a simple curl | md5 example and a show off tf example.

nice to have something that can run w/o aws creds

PIZZA.BAT posted:

this would be the pro move, yeah

This was indeed the pro move and thank you guys for the advice.

I ended up doing a powershell example, a curl | md5 example, and a tf/azure function(python) example

They specifically called it out as one of the best submissions they've had, I was the only candidate to submit multiple languages, and one of two candidates to submit a complete application (not just for this position, but for overall hiring for this team)

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


The Management posted:

you did too much

maybe, but it was like 2 hours of work while watching tv, not really worried about it

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


raminasi posted:

if youíre totally unemployed though youíve got time to make a linkedin, itís not actually harmful or anything. i got my first two jobs (both good) from linkedin recruiter spam.

the current interview loop I'm in came from linked in recruiter spam

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


the recruiter I am currently working with gave me a salary range for the position up front and they have also been very pleasant to work with throughout the process


they did try to get a number out of me first, but when I refused they were basically ďno problem, hereís the range for the position, is that ok?Ē

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Achmed Jones posted:

lol at prioritizing interesting computers to touch over getting paid and a sane work environment, but you do you

this

but also

nothing is stopping you from taking the first offer then ditching if you get a better offer from the other place

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


i have some domain knowledge that is useful for 12 companies, but I'm actively avoiding looking for work at any of them right now

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


The Management posted:

twitter is a poor guide for life decisions

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Maximum Leader posted:

farming was a mistake, we need to go back to eating roots.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


this felt good

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


DELETE CASCADE posted:

idk i'd work for fb if the price was right. tree fiddy? could be worse: you could be a defense contractor

my current company is a dod contractor (among other things)

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


video conferencing is only like 30% of what teams does, and 100% of what zoom does

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


i mean, there is also the bad messaging client, but otherwise yes

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I'm waiting on a response to a counter-offer right now, but I'm already prepared to accept the base offer since it is a 30% increase

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I just got a $5k increase to base starting salary approved for a total base salary of $115k

Accepted the offer, starting in a month pending a background check.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


theyíre good figgies here too

full remote positions are nice

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


the job that I just accepted had me do a personality and iq test

if I had applied for the job normally, those would have been presented as the first step of the hiring process and I would have noped the gently caress out

as it actually happened, I was going through a recruiter, gone through the interview hoops, met my future team and it was framed as a please jump through these he hoops so we can actually send you the offer

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Oct 16, 2003


Arcsech posted:

on that topic, one of my friends keeps bitching about his job. and I tell him he should get a new one. and then he busts out the same goddam thing every time:

ďI applied to <one FAANG> and <slightly smaller but still prestigious company> and got immediately rejected, I need a masters degree to get a job anywhere goodĒ

and like. bitch, I applied for 37 jobs to get 3 interviews and 1 offer, and I should have applied to more. itís a numbers game, just spam fuckin applications. but this guy doesnít believe me

donít be that guy. just apply for poo poo. expect to get rejected 90+% of the time

or donít apply to anything yourself and just let recruiters come to you


not the best plan if youíre unemployed and donít have a long runway though

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