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DuckConference
May 27, 2004



Emacs Headroom posted:

even acknowledging the existence of the careeer website is probably a red flag

if you don't know someone there who can refer you (always the best method), then you're supposed to casually hit up a recruiter there on linked in

i got a few interviews at BigTech companies (and a job) from just applying to jobs on their sites

there was a lag of a couple of weeks though, I guess you gotta wait for someone to poke through the shitpile

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DuckConference
May 27, 2004



qhat posted:

Working at my current company has been a real eye opener, in the sense that every possible inefficiency a software firm can have exists. For example:

- Sales setting hard deadlines without any consultation because they oversold a product, and then blaming software for not delivering on time.
- QA overwhelmed because developers actively refuse to write unit tests, and then QA being blamed as a bottleneck in the release cycle.
- Infrastructure projects which should be high priority, such as CI and dependency management, never happen because it does not contribute directly to the fastest possible next release. Instead developers do stupid poo poo like checking binaries into git, using recursive submodules (this is just so inherently dumb it's not worth elaborating on), manually copying around binaries on disk just to get their project to build, etc.

All of these things honestly come down to incompetent management. I'll be making sure to ask questions related to these things next time I go for an interview.

recursive submodules? like a git repo somehow having itself as a sub module?

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



when we were hiring people at my last company I skimmed through the cover letter before looking through the resume. it was handy because sometimes there was some experience mentioned in the cover letter that didn't really stand out in the resume, and also because there were a couple of crazies that filled their cover letter with red flags.

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



trap sprung I guess on a guy that doesn't know the difference between withholding and actually paying tax

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



qhat posted:

This is a real pro tip. If anyone wants you to do something, request that they do another tiny reasonable thing to get the ball rolling and watch how you never hear from them again.

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



qhat posted:

That's lowball for Canada

Maybe in Toronto. 105k for a senior position sounds pretty typical for vancouver (although maybe Amazon will start to change that)

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



Gazpacho posted:

this whole convo is weird

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



meatpotato posted:

to be clear, I'm seeking mentoring, decent pay, and opportunity to learn new technical skills outside of firmware, my current pigeonhole

maybe find a small company that does embedded stuff, but also wants a bunch of bad web interfaces or cloud services for their embedded junk?

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



quote:

similar to the question in the op regarding pto- hammer this question home. a good consulting shop should have a very generous pto policy- moreso than even normal tech companies due to how stressful the work is. DO NOT be satisfied with any answer unless they tell you exactly how much pto they've taken and what they did. absolutely make it clear that any attempt at dancing around your question is completely unacceptable

I get the idea but I keep picturing ďI DEMAND TO KNOW WHETHER YOU HAD FUN IN LONDONĒ

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



i have a whiteboard interview at bigtech coming up in a couple weeks, and Iím already deep into studying data structures I never use* in my day job

*okay I guess I use a lot of hash maps implicitly without thinking about it

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



Achmed Jones posted:

thatís 16 hours more. thatís also horrible. if you have to lie about being sick for a system to be ok, itís actually a bad system

thereís also a 1 week shutdown at American thanksgiving and Christmas

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



got turned down for the first google team I had a matching interview with, weíll see what I get next

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



is amazon lab126 a shitshow?

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



Rex-Goliath posted:

wait- do we have any h1bs in yospos? i just realized that we're sort of incomplete without a few

i am and I'm sure there are plenty of others

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



do BigTech companies usually walk you out if you give notice and youíre going to another BigTech company? I donít see why they would but I feel like Iíve heard of it happening

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



gave notice to my manager, who was not sure whether it was policy to be walked out, so Iíve kinda just been sitting here for a couple of hours waiting to see what happens

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



DuckConference posted:

gave notice to my manager, who was not sure whether it was policy to be walked out, so Iíve kinda just been sitting here for a couple of hours waiting to see what happens

update: today is my last day (maybe probably?)

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



Notorious b.s.d. posted:

what's wrong with that

an amazon recruiter once scheduled a call with me on a saturday morning

DuckConference
May 27, 2004




quote:

If you are pressed to sign, or threatened with termination, then you may sign it, but include the words ďunder duressĒ. (The shorthand ďu.d.Ē will not suffice.) What this means is that, since you were threatened with summary termination, you were not free to decline the PIP, and therefore your signature is meaningless.

This kind of sounds like some freeman of the land type stuff.

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



After spending over a month just hanging out due to waiting for the law firm to process my visa, the paperwork is finally done and I start at newjob on Monday!

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



bob dobbs is dead posted:

The default answer for job related qs here should be, "start looking for new job", in the same way the default answer to an r/relationships question should be "dump the motherfucking rear end in a top hat"

If it's come to asking randoes on the internet, it's already hosed

also because people generally have an overly strong motivation to avoid risk and change which means saying "change things a lot" is often good advice (except for a select few who need to do a whole lot less of it)

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



my apple recruiter was fine? also I heard from them a few weeks after blindly throwing resumes at apple's job postings

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



FMguru posted:

the thing you should be pressing is the "search jobs" button on linkedin

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



FMguru posted:

a lot of job interviewing is about testing your ability to follow dumb unspoken rules of corporate culture, and there are good reasons for that

prep harder next time

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



tak posted:

small company in a small city in the Canadian prairies

oh my god

like I was going to complain about the derail but Jesus Christ I sincerely hope you can escape from camrose or canora or whatever lovecroftian horror of a little town you're trapped in before it eats you alive

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



Jim Silly-Balls posted:

65 degrees and foggy forever is not 90th percentile weather considering itís a clone of Seattle most of the time.

there are >200 days per year where 65F and foggy would be a major upgrade (for Vancouver anyway, I assume Seattle is basically the same thing)

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



Scionix posted:

oh geez I got a google interview

what do i do im basically retarded

just practice bullshit problems from the internet

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



Notorious b.s.d. posted:

did they not send you a shitload of interview prep?

yeah the interview prep isnít like a trick or something, but also it kind of comes down to what the favorite (not banned) questions of your interviewers end up being

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



i've worked at a small tech company on windows, a big tech company on macOS, and big tech company on linux, and always had full rights on my workstation

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



is that Tesla? I did something similar for Tesla, as I recall it was a mix of simple quick questions (what will this line of code do) and a couple of more involved questions (write some code to do a thing)

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



is london like vancouver in being a preferred vacation destination and wealth parking place for money launderers?

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



Kind Friend posted:

remote contractor

this seems like a bad time to become a variable expense

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



there is no such thing as ethical employment under capitalism?

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



ShadowHawk posted:

My Google interview process never had my education come up, possibly because I don't have any (no CS degree or classes).

Google trusts their interview process enough that there are quite a few "no degree but some industry or open source experience" people getting through it. As cumbersome as it is, it's at least not blind to people like me.

i think the ivy league bias was more of a thing around 2005-2010, it doesn't seem to still be a big limiter these days

but yeah seeing attendance at an ivy league school would definitely be a red flag for me on a resume. you're trying to hire a competent person to do a job, not provide a sinecure for the kids of old money.

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



The Management posted:

the contract is sealed, new employment secured. time to inform my boss that Iím getting the gently caress out of here, but heís out for Canadian thanksgiving so I will have to wait an extra day to do it. my boss is in canada. my new boss is in Texas, lol.

Congrats! Are you out of BigTech now?

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



PCjr sidecar posted:

TN has some educational requirements that might be difficult to meet as a non-traditional.

TN and H1-B are both going to be difficult without a university degree that somewhat corresponds to the job title. although people bullshit a lot for "management consulting" and such TNs so it might still be an option. L-1 requires you to be working for the company outside of the US for at least one year, and they need to then decide they want to transfer you to the US bad enough to deal with all the crap.

if none of those work, you could also marry an american.

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



you make it sound like being slightly further from the tech baubel is a bad thing

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



Shaggar posted:

the 20% is things like objc or c/c++ where you cant just cant use java/c# or they are too impractical (embedded) and then its fine

rust might actually start to take some of the c++ market, it feels like we've hit a moment where some large c++ projects are starting to basically give up on ever properly preventing memory safety bugs with c++. rust is the least hosed alternative.

EDIT: i would like to sincerely apologize for accidentally sniping with an opinion on programming languages

DuckConference
May 27, 2004



FMguru posted:

you disgust me

We take this issue very seriously. We broke your trust, and we're going to do better moving forwards.

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DuckConference
May 27, 2004



Blinkz0rz posted:

ok so 200 (conservatively, maybe you have a higher bonus) plus equity that's probably worth a lot but might not be and is taxed differently from ordinary income.

motherfuckers declare total comp like it's best case time and space. y'all should know better.

RSUs are taxed just like regular income if you sell them the day they vest. If you hold them after they vest any change in value after the vesting just follows the normal capital gains rules.

EDIT: To clarify, the following scenarios all have you paying the same amount of tax:

1. Your boss hands you a $10k stack of cash as a bonus, and for some reason you decide to buy the company stock with it. Then you sell it a month later.
2. $10k of RSUs vest, you hold on to them, then sell them a month later
3. $10k of RSUs vest, you sell them, change you mind and buy $10k of company stock at the same price on the same day, and sell it a month later

DuckConference fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Aug 13, 2021

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