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stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
i recently terminated a job search after some constructive conversations/concessions from management but decided to play out the two searches i actually had in-flight bc why not

completely changes the dynamic of these things when i dont really care about getting the job

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stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
I think someone in here mentioned not working with Workbridge - any reason why?

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

raminasi posted:

they demanded i come in and talk to them in person to get a sense of what i was looking for. i've had good experiences doing this, but their little interview was formulaic and weird. (like, for each thing on my resume they made me tell them what % of it was "development" and what % was "architecture.") they then submitted me for a role i was unqualified for and had no interest in. me and the company screener had a lol about it but then workbridge got mad and ghosted me. my time would have been better spent playing video games in my underwear.

e: oh and i forgot how i said was interested in a particular company and the guy said he submitted me for it but then i never heard anything back, so i didn't feel i could apply on my own because i had no idea what my status was. (i now know that in such a situation you can just go straight to the company and ask them wtf, but i was younger and more naive then and it was still lovely of him. also it turns out that company is apparently a trash fire.)

interesting. i just bailed on working with them again (didn't want to do that first time get to know ya chat when i was winding down my search) but i worked with em in the past and i got that ghosting you mentioned about 4 years ago when i whiffed on a few interviews

i always thought it was cause i kinda bitched at their rep after i did an interview where they never even received or asked about a ~4 hour code exercise i did

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
well, time to do a code exercise on the last interview process i have in flight after stopping my search

i was told i would get 3 hours for it, i'm giving it 90 tops

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
cool one of the problems seemed unsolvable because i couldn't access a type's members in the stupid browser ide thing

i loving hate these web-based code exercises

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
i enjoy job interviews and job interview discussion

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
interview tomorrow for a technology i only have a mildly-above-tenuous grasp on, hell yeah let's do this

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

raminasi posted:

I recently learned that my job does that stupid thing where to be promoted you have to already be performing at the level you’d be promoted to. I’m gonna see if I can get them to change the wording to “candidates must donate six months of unpaid labor”

i got taken for a ride on this recently

now i read this thread a lot

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
anyone have any experience joining a company just as it gets acquired? im talking like im expecting an offer any (business hours) minute now and news broke about the company getting acquired yesterday

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
i should also note that due to my upcoming wedding my plan was to give notice soon and start after thanksgiving, which gives me some anxiety

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
i had an interview today that i think went well, but drat do i hate whiteboarding

the problem was to talk thru an integer stack that had push, pop, and max functions, where max returned the highest integer in the stack, and then optimize it

i tend to create a naive solution for things and then optimize, and i suck at whiteboarding the optimization because im chronically bad at thinking academic-technically when under a microscope, and the result is that i always reach the dumbass cs100 solution for something and then get prodded towards a more elegant one. i hate this sideshow routine where i have to demonstrate specific skills that won't have an impact on my day to day

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

there are books about this extremely specific topic

algorithm design manual
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.471.4772&rep=rep1&type=pdf

cracking the coding interview
https://www.amazon.com/Cracking-Coding-Interview-Programming-Questions/dp/0984782850

it sucks, but if you are not willing to spend 40-60 hours reviewing basic material maybe you really didn't want that deece 6.5 figgies?

thanks?

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

pointsofdata posted:

Saw a CV with Myers Briggs category right at the top.

had to do a teambuilding exercise which assigned everyone one of those and a coworker hung up the results at his desk

what i think was supposed to be a show of obedience and conformance ended up just being a WARNING - DUMMY sign for anyone who came to talk to him

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Cucumbers posted:

interviewing really is hell.

the developer I'm in contact with gave me a small four hour take-home assignment in Scala (with a 2 days deadline from the time of the handout),
and said I should complete and then come to the office and discuss my solution with them.

so I just returned a solution a couple of hours ago for this "four hour" task where they expected me to
* expand a simple REST api by adding user creation routes and logic, authorization routes and logic and expanding the existing routes to use authorization middleware
* alter the existing database tables, and add new ones as well
* write tests for the whole shebang
* integrate swagger documentation generation in the new solution
* redesign the code and split the three files in the handout out into a more reasonable project structure
which is all in all quite a lot.

I have plenty of FP and monad experience in stuff like OCaml, Haskell and F#, but haven't touched Scala before at all,
and especially not the database- and the http service frameworks used in the code.
I did my best within (double the) allotted time, but it was really not realistic for me to just pick up scala from scratch
and then understand and use quite complex monadic HTTP service frameworks within this timespace, so I just finished as much as possible.

during the case period, I asked the interviewer for some pointers to the framework part of the case,
and he replied with a variant of "just use your best judgement for it. we are most of all interested in seeing how you work" which is fine, I guess -
but I do feel that it's unfair to judge me by whether I could pick up (multiple) frameworks within four hours, and not on what I actually got done.

for the case, they gave me read-only access to a private github repo with the source code.
I still have access, and now I'm receiving github notifications on the various developers' review of my solution.
they're debating whether it makes sense to invite me back in for the evaluation at all,
It's by accident, but it still suuuuuuucks.

In general I'm just frustrated that they say they want functional programmers, and then test them on pretty basic tasks implemented using quite complex functionality.
In an actual work setting I could just ask any of my colleagues how to use such-and-such framework, get taught and then go on my merry productive way afterwards.
no wonder some offices have trouble finding qualified candidates when they expect such specific knowledge from the applicants.
all knowledge that could be picked up in a few real work days.

respond to the github comments

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Cucumbers posted:

For what it's worth, I got feedback from the HR person in the company now.

They'd like to see me back for the follow-up interview on Tuesday, which is good!

The weird part is that it's supposed to be a two hour long interview.

you should still respond to the github comments

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

PokeJoe posted:

the range for this job title and years of experience range from about

$100,000 to $380,000

i uhh.. don't know what to ask for

489,000

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

qirex posted:

there's certain companies that people who are desperate to quit wherever they are end up at, walmart.com is a big one around here, I know so many people who were there for a year or less just to regroup from a really bad job. I think they just have a really streamlined process and will take a chance on someone who seems pretty good

there's 90 listings on indeed for them right now

are you in AR? i spent some time there (not working for walmart) and literally everyone in my sphere either came from walmart or eventually went there

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

carry on then posted:

a few links from that so post i found an article that's 100% concentrated Rich White Boomer:

https://digiday.com/marketing/wtf-millennials-dealing-with-agencies-newest-generation/

the 30-40 year old millenials are so annoyed with the 22 year old millenials

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

PIZZA.BAT posted:

i've noticed an unexpected bonus of hunting for a job when you're not trying to get out asap and also because you're remote you're overpaid for your region: not only can i play hardball with recruiters, but when they inevitably tell me the salary band and i tell them it's way too low i'm gently nudging the salary higher for everyone else in the region :patriot:

o7 god bless, transfer capital downwards comrade :cheerdoge:

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stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
design, architecture and implementation of

Poopernickel posted:

Overhaul and modernization of business-critical processes. Migrated legacy processes to Kubernetes.

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