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Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

Achmed Jones posted:

I used to down ibuprofen like candy and then one day my body decided that ibuprofen ruins my stomach now. it’s generally ok if I’ve eaten recently but it’s bad enough and enough of a dice roll that I generally choose between having a drink and not hurting when I have a headache or something

you can't just take a tylenol?

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Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

Achmed Jones posted:

yes, tylenol works to make me not hurt. that’s why I have to choose between having a drink and not hurting. I guess I could drink and take it but I prefer having a liver that works

Tylenol works fine tho

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

Penisface posted:

i doubt it, unless you too are in japan

in fact there's also some self driving ("mobility") business here who also is expecting people do a month long test assignment

hey, come join the japan goon line chat

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

Penisface posted:

how do i do that? is there a nice non-doxxy thing i can search for on line or i will just create a throwaway email as i dont have PMs

throwaway email

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

jit bull transpile posted:

i have never owned an apple device besides an old rear end iPod and never coded for any of their platforms prior to my employment here.

truly, the race is not always to the swift

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.
just gonna apologize for that in advance

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

Dirk Pitt posted:

lol our computer janitor desperately wants us to install this on our macs “for security” to give him remote admin.

you definitely chose the right thread to post that in

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

ratbert90 posted:

I can’t speak for anybody else, but I’m in an extremely niche market with my skills and can charge a premium. there’s a negative unemployment rate for Embedded Linux Full stack engineers with a focus on infosec. :v:

what does full stack mean in embedded linux?

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

TheFluff posted:

for some international perspective: i'm in stockholm, sweden, making about $63k (USD) before taxes (slightly over 30%). six-ish years of experience, no degree. peanuts by us standards, above 90th percentile here. think roughly $120-130k to equate it to a similar income bracket in the us. no stock or anything, but a deece pension contribution, 6 weeks of paid vacation, unlimited paid sick time, and of course free healthcare and education as well as heavily subsidized prescription drugs (and literal years of parental leave if i ever start a family). i am slightly underpaid though, i had another offer that would have paid 10% better but it was adtech and seemed way more stressful than my current job. very happy where i am.

this sounds v good

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

ADINSX posted:

Sure, so they should be even more careful who they hire and not intentionally bring on what they consider "dead weight". Not suggesting that the op is anything like that btw, its just a weird idea.


lol yikes. Except the point of the "white guy investor" is obvious, they think that's going to impress someone so they hire him to sit in meetings and thoughtfully take off his glasses or something. But sure ok I'll try and be more open minded and respectful of the valued cultural practice of *checks notes* hiring someone for no other purpose than to abuse them.

lol

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

KidDynamite posted:

Had a phonecall with an internal interviewer that ended in those questions that determine if the actual hiring manager will look at your resume. The questions asked were open ended and also worded terribly so I had no idea what the gently caress was going on.

Here's an example. "What method would you override to find the root view controller?" There is no method overriding required for this. The answer is UIApplication.sharedApplication().keyWindow?.rootViewController. I said "I wouldn't override anything I would use this to find it" She tells me that's wrong and asks if I've ever heard of loadView. Which I explained is what you would do if you were creating a navigation UI programmatically to set something as the root, but of course that doesn't mean poo poo and I won't get a call.

What am I even supposed to do there?

Be glad you're not working some place that asks candidates questions like that.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

Piano Maniac posted:

Well, my dudes, I have found a company I like, the work's gonna be long hours but the team's great and flex time as well. I managed to pacify my wife, and she's on board with my career change, especially simce the starting pay is way higher than I am making right now. Now comes the hard part - sealing the deal with the job contract and leaving my current job of being a hotelman.

I just hope the company won't change their mind before signing the contract!! :ohdear:

hell yea man

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

hackbunny posted:

how do you interview complete newbies, guys fresh out of college with zero work experience? where do I start?

hire the first one that knows how to use source control and understands why they should never, ever force push

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

MononcQc posted:

I rebase -i my commits in a PR to be self-contained pieces of work, but I leave merge commits in place. Then you can use the git log between any two arbitrary commits/versions to know what feature work has taken place. Takes a short awk script and you can get changelogs for free as long as the merge commits were descriptive and well-labeled. Most tools (github, tfs, gitlab, etc.) even annotate the merge commit with the PR title or work items so that gets done automatically.

yup, this.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.
the overwhelming presence of libertarians in couputer touching is proof positive that it's a job that actual morons can and will do

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

Smythe posted:

its a sixer so obviously i dont care. but it does amuse me that someone out there probs thinks that "crooter" (short for "recruiter") is sexist or something, which makes me laugh. I would like to hear the rationale for the probe. They're an IK so they're going to post "yr Mom, Loser, LMFAO" and thems the breaks, but then again maybe they will write 2k words about it and then resign in shame. Lets see how this plays out.

seems a bit hysterical to me vOv

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.
how is :gb2qcs: not a smiley?

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

qhat posted:

it is in fact perfectly fine, perhaps normal, to not be okay with every aspect of your employer’s operations but also still want to work for them because you wish to provide a better life for your family so they don’t have to make these moral trade offs.

i don't have a horse in this race, work where you want, stack paper, etc, but just as an argument this is dumb af. if you're operating at a level where facebook is offering you a job you're not exactly short on options. also making facebook money isn't going to shield your family from making moral tradeoffs (whatever that means), if anything you're just reinforcing that's it's fine to make those tradeoffs as long as you get paid.

again, no criticism from me, by all means take facebook's money. just don't kid yourself about what you're doing.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

champagne posting posted:

what is the big bad again? Is it the metaverse being bad or radicalizing boomers?

iunno

*edit*
actually i do know, it's just how you're gonna be perceived by other six figgie fucktards that think this kind of poo poo matters

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Stringent fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Mar 31, 2022

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

champagne posting posted:

On the other hand if it means being paid $100k more yearly then you can do a lot of good for yourself, your family or others with that money

actually you probably can't, really

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

Blinkz0rz posted:

how a person posts this after the facebook files leak is beyond me https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-facebook-files-11631713039

facebook is the same kind of net drain on the world as a raytheon, exxon, or dow chemical. if you want to work there by all means go ahead but don't delude yourself into thinking you have no power so you may as well stack paper. computer touchers have a massive amount of power in the labor market. not exercising it and shrugging about ethical issues makes you complicit.

taking a job at facebook has even less negative impact on society than voting for biden in the last election

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

champagne posting posted:

when you frame it like that I could literally work anywhere since I have no impact on american politics

suppose the alternative is "don't work for nestle", but nestle don't pay that well

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

a cyberpunk goose posted:

i agree this is often how it’s done, but I’ve seen it a lot in my market (PNW) where architects and principles and even staff get hired without knowing anyone at the company directly

the thread in sh/sc is probably more conducive to productive discussion if that's what you're looking for. this is more like the cspam covid thread.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.
yeah i meant coc

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

a cyberpunk goose posted:

I’m just putting some feelers out there, it’s not crazy to be like “hey anyone hiring remote BE devs at MTS/arch/principal level?”

best case someone is like “hey yeah lemme dm you”

worst case is someone wants to be weird about it in the chill posting zone

btw the coc thread is here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3607482

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

Achmed Jones posted:

well there's oldjob but they only hired ninjas and rockstars, not wizards, so idk if it's a good fit

yeah iunno

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

lol

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.
it's not hard to get programming jobs in japan for foreigners

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.
aren't a lot of eu places like the business has to prove they can't find a local before they can get a visa allotment for a foreign hire?

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

Sapozhnik posted:

there are many places that are really cool to visit on vacation and suck a lot to live and work in and i get the feeling that japan is one of them

dunno if i could do the whole live-in-the-office thing. that and their border is still all-but-closed due to covid unless that's changed in the last few weeks.

i guess it depends where you're comparing it to, but coming from the US i've been nothing but happy with living in japan. learning the language was and continues to be difficult, but in tokyo at least there's plenty of ppl in the same boat so it's not so bad. the whole live-in-the-office thing is an anachronism at this point, and the majority of companies that still do it wouldn't hire a foreigner in the first place.

you're right about the covid thing though, i doubt they've started issuing new work visas yet, but i'm not up to date on it.


KidDynamite posted:

post the job boards!

dunno about job boards, your best bet would be to hit the larger japanese software companies through their sites:
https://japan-job-en.rakuten.careers/search-jobs
https://careers.mercari.com/search-jobs/
https://about.paypay.ne.jp/career/en/
https://careers.linecorp.com/jobs

i'm probably forgetting a few, but that would get you started.

indeed has a japanese site and some places advertise listings on stack overflow, but really i'd recommend just sticking with the big places. the japanese pool for programmers is really small so, if not a majority, then a very sizable minority of devs are foreign. most technical work will be done entirely in english, so you don't have to worry about the language gap and all. considerable pay cut from the US is the main down side, aside from living in a country where you can't speak (and more importantly read) the language and all.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

akadajet posted:

how do you say "goto 10" in japanese??

:gb2gbs:

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

Achmed Jones posted:

that seems odd. why would someone not want to learn the language of the country they live in?

it's a lot of work. i was fortunate that i came over with my wife (japanese) and enough savings that i was able to spend my first 9 months or so going to a language school full time. had i not, i doubt i would have learned the language very well.

there's plenty of guys that have been here 40+ years and can't speak the language. it really takes a lot of work.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

4lokos basilisk posted:

2 once you learn japanese, you also learn all the builtin social norms and whoops now you have to follow them all and you no longer get exceptions from being a dumb foreigner. this
basically means that if you are not in management, you now have to really learn how to career progress in the japanese way and each natural born local now has an advantage over you

i also know plenty of anecdotal examples where a fluent japanese speaker got shunned in the company no matter their actual skills in the work they did. if you’re a manager in that position you can lay down the law yourself

none of this tracks with my personal experience, but it's a big country.

becoming fluent in japanese has only made living here better in my experience.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

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i'll help you

CarForumPoster posted:

I find this debate frustrating because its centered around social ideas/ideals rather than how to achieve the goal of getting competing offers to get the job, life and pay you want. It seems like one made from an ivory tower to me. Every dev doesn't want to bother, but SOME recruiters look for it, and in that conflict lies opportunity for those who do.

CarForumPoster posted:

My cofounder and I are, presently, the only cis/het white men in the company.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

The internet is the universal sewer.

nudgenudgetilt posted:

am I an rear end in a top hat for pursuing the cool gig and back pocketing the meh gig, considering a start date has been set and hardware already ordered for me?

yes, but you'll get over it

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Stringent
Dec 22, 2004

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KidDynamite posted:

https://pastebin.com/6zKbzbvC

reqs are down at the bottom. interviewer said do 2-4 write it to get it done and don't use the architecture i discussed during system design round. stopped me when i finished 4 and asked about how i would make it fit said architecture and test.

i only took a quick glance at it, but i was kinda twigged by all your class properties and ui elements being public vars instead of private lets (where possible, obviously some of them needed to be vars).

also in the urlsession i think [unowned self] is the fotm for closures instead of weak, but i couldn't swear to that.

*edit*

i was getting ready for dinner when i looked at this and didn't give it a proper look, i've got some questions if you wanna pm or something. better still if you can get pokeyman to look at it.

Stringent fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Oct 7, 2022

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