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KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

Diva Cupcake posted:

got an offer :toot: already at dece 6 figgies in nyc. this is +15% plus another 10-15% annual bonus on top. it's a solid offer for the position, not great. there's little doubt that it's much less of a shitshow organization than current employer.

only problem, it's in boston. that fills me with massive anxiety. i have until next week to decide if we're moving.

don't move their if you're brown

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KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

what are my actual options for iOS job in Manhattan that arenít poo poo start ups?

Iím senior but not senior enough to be considered for a lead

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

ProSlayer posted:

I'm currently interviewing with Google and it's been a horrible experience. It seems like their recruiters / engineers / managers are constantly busy so every time I have to schedule an interview, it takes a couple of days for the recruiter to get back to me, and then a couple more days to find a date/time that fit, which is nearly always a week or two out. So far, I've had to go through one recruiter call, one technical pre-screen, one onsite (w/ four interviewers), one follow-up technical, and now I'm being asked to schedule another follow-up technical interview. At this point, I don't even care if I'm rejected - I just want it to be over with. Being in job limbo is killing me emotionally. I stopped practicing LeetCode questions because I wanted to know whether I got accepted/rejected before continuing, but now I'm thinking I've wasted precious studying time. If the company wasn't Google, I'd have told the recruiter the recruiter that I'm no longer interested a while ago.

Finally, the worst part is that every time the recruiter has an update, she will send an ambiguous email saying she has feedback for me so I should call her, and then not be available when I try to call her. Like, just loving tell me what happened because the suspense sucks.

i have my first phone screen with them next week. i don't know why i'm doing this to myself. always stress the gently caress out and have a panic attack.

manager was kind enough to give a heads up that the team is likely getting laid off and she's trying to jump ship so i have to interview without the comfort of just saying i have a job gently caress it

edit: i stress out and have panic attacks when i have a job, going to be great to find out what wondrous things my sadbrains put me through now that the prospect of no job looms

KidDynamite fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Dec 5, 2018

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

ADINSX posted:

Just remember that there are way easier interview processes out there and while working for Google may be appealing, you'll be able to find something if you keep at it.

...Emphasis on "may" by the way, the pay/perks might be awesome but the mind-blowing inefficiency/bureaucracy doesn't go away after the interview ends, according to friends that work there

thanks for this. helps to hear it with someone your brain can't apply anxiety thoughts to.

i think i'm going to tune up the resume, post it here and do another pass, and shotgun apply afterwords.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

So I think I have adequately updated my resume thanks to MononcQc. I'm not sure if I should include the trucking company because it's not relevant at all to CS work but it also fills in what the hell I've been doing since high school minus all the waiting and bouncing jobs on the side as well. I don't know if I should have the ellipses with skills because honestly anything else is stuff I've touched once or twice and can't answer anything about. Please rip it apart.



Edit: MononncQc i am buying your book on friday

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

dragon enthusiast posted:

Nobody gives a gently caress what you've been doing since high school, if you had left the trucking job off it would have looked like you went straight from high school to college to employment. Instead now you invite questions about why you didn't do the normie 4-5 years of college after high school

Wouldn't being 32 invite those questions anyway?

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

disptach job it out of there, any other flaws? eager to start shotgunning this thing

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

I bombed the gently caress out of my Google interview. Stay mushy anxiety brain.

Psych gave me a script for propranolol for the anxiety and it stopped my heart from beating out of my chest like normal, but the mush brain didn't go away. I talked through the problem well just actually typing the code to execute what I said didn't go too hot.

More practice and studying and on to the next.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

jit bull transpile posted:

wait they expected your to live code a functioning application? what the gently caress. who cares if a thing compiles, the point is supposed to be to see how you think and approach problems.

No not expected to compile just loving up my closure logic and needing help from the interviewer on actually writing code to match what Iím saying.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

did well on my phone technical interview today. pretty sure it will lead to onsite. unexpected levels of sweat coming for my clothes.



edit: and the propranolol worked or maybe it was less stress cause it wasn't google. I think it was the meds though.

KidDynamite fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Dec 19, 2018

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

Ciaphas posted:

why 13 specifically?

probably so you don't have to pay the signing bonus back

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

had a chat with a disney recruiter. from first impressions i don't think it would be a good time working there

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

alright scored an onsite

they're asking that i take a full day off for a 4-5 hour set of interviews.
guess it's time to study more algorithms and poo poo.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

mod saas posted:

curious what kind of work and what the impressions were?

iOS dev position. Recruiter said they work with xamarin(lol cross platform), that theyíre in the process of hiring a QA team but for now the devs write the QA scripts as well, that they are in a crunch to deliver their streaming service and she mentioned how overworked she was. It just seems bad to me.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

i've been working remote for almost 2 years and it's definitely a bit too much to keep motivation going and that's me who's fairly anti-social. It's going to be a shock going back into an office when I land a new gig but I'm actually looking forward to it.

I got a second phone interview with google after I was almost certain I completely bombed the first one. Recruiter said I communicated well and that clearly the thought process and knowledge was there but the actual code writing is what needs to be scrutinized more. Its scheduled 3 weeks out so I will practice no IDE coding for the time being. Have on-sites and other interviews in-between now and then so hopefully I will be a lot less anxious by the time it rolls around.

Still very strange speaking with the recruiter casually because I was expecting rejection to dry mouth and stammering after she said they want a second interview. I guess I only get this way for the FAANG

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

Infinotize posted:

I will never change jobs again unless I don't have to do a coding test beyond fizzbuzz

if i start making a dece 6 figgies extremely same

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

ShadowHawk posted:

serious though what kind of toxic culture has employees in the office at 8am the average adult isn't even awake at that point

dude i wake up at 5am daily and i don't sign on to work until 9:30 i don't even have kids. i just live like this. it's good.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

Sniep posted:

wait so there exist both morning people AND night owls?

i'm a night owl but in the winter when you wake up and it's still dark out it's the most amazing thing you can get a lot of poo poo done, summer is loving hell for me though

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

on site interview at 9 today. been up since 3:30. :sludgepal:

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

propranolol works loving wonders. Had 4 sessions: technical, behavioral, case study, technical. All the technicals were in swift which was really cool, but may have bit me in the rear end since I don't write swift everyday.

First technical was pretty easy, no white boarding just look at some functions/methods/statements interviewer had pre-written and answer output, why it won't compile, etc. I forgot about the mutating keyword on one question.

Behavioral was standard stuff which i answered with STAR.

Case was actually pretty interesting and I thought cool. Provide business pros cons and technical pros cons about some case, then answer a technical problem that could up from said case.

Last interview I was running out of steam and propranolol confidence so it was a bit rougher and a second interviewer came in as white boarding started(each other was 1 on 1) . It was some linked list stuff and not bad in retrospect. I got a solution with some help, and found an optimization with a hint as I was completely done. We didn't have time to implement optimization and that was that.

I will get a decision and hopefully an offer tomorrow. Which is awesome turn around. Nap and then taking a crack at this vimeo code test that looks like entirely too much work. my friend at vimeo in a non-engineering role also informed me it's being re-worked because devs straight up stop the process because it takes too long. I don't feel like doing it but i don't want to make my friend look bad even though the recruiter contacted by coincidence.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

jit bull transpile posted:

something just struck me funny after seeing a bunch of people talking about using Adderall to program more at work too. I'm worried about yospos!

i take adderall legitimately but lol at abusing it to do more work

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

qhat posted:

Just got the follow up, I did really well and judging from Glassdoor and the grade they told me they're hiring for, I'm looking at a minimum +30% pay with 10-15% yearly bonus and sign-on bonus and drastically improved PTO. I've got a final call with their senior director arranged. I've arrived.

get figgies

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

didn't get it after what i thought was pretty good on-site. recruiter said they were looking someone more senior.

on to the next.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

ratbert90 posted:

I wouldn't do a take-home at all. I have projects I can show you and several contributions to many prominent OSS projects.

Even green engineers I interview I will ask if they have any code samples/projects on git. I find it makes for much more meaningful conversation.

I donít code outside of work. I have a few other time consuming hobbies that I enjoy way more.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

goog phone interview at noon, prepared for death.

i seriously hate this feeling, and it's so much worse for FAANG interviews

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

hosed up printing out a string representation of a UIView hierarchy iteratively(explicitly stated no recursion) , like had the right direction going but had mush brain. interviewer explicitly told me 40 minutes was more that enough time for that.

also may have had my identity stolen and i can't file an identity theft report because the government is shut down

good day, imo

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

i'm carpet bombing applications and apparently you have to login with facebook to apply at amazon

hell world

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

hm when i put in my email it just takes me to a page that says log in with facebook.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

raminasi posted:

i am trying real real hard to tell myself that. i'm in the perfect job hunting space (current job not fantastic but still has some good parts, and pays enough to be comfortable but not the idiot dollars i think i could be pulling down) and it's still demoralizing and terrible

I'm in the same spot and it's still crushing to get rejected

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

qhat posted:

the only good thing about job interviews is once you succeed at just one, you get to instantly upgrade your lifestyle for the foreseeable future, perhaps forever!

yeah i'm not going to do that. just save and hopefully retire by 45

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

DONT THREAD ON ME posted:

god gently caress companies that make me register with them them to apply.

lets add all this complexity to the recruitment process for

~reasons~

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

DONT THREAD ON ME posted:

their jobs search has a ton of stuff relative to other sites i've tried.

i think i need to try and find a good recruiter.

e: i have applied for a lot of jobs today

underdog.io has come through for me today( i think as emails come directly from internal recruiters and no sign if they were directed there from underdog) Have 4 calls scheduled so far and my resume just went up this morning.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

Sleng Teng posted:

This seems similar to Hired.com, is there much of a difference?

never used Hired but probably not much of a difference. underdog has been mostly startups. i'm going to interview for experience but also probably never take an offer if i get one because gently caress startups.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

DONT THREAD ON ME posted:

2. i had an amazon screen where i forgot how to write a for-loop. interviewing sucks.

i had this happen with google and a while loop

Rex-Goliath posted:

tells me that i should have studied cracking the coding interview harder

this is the poo poo that gets me. they obviously know the system can be gamed. why is the process still the way it is?

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

DONT THREAD ON ME posted:

the worst part about interviewing is that the payoff is having to go to work

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

cheque_some posted:

are there any big/household name tech companies that meet these three requirements:

1) pays well
2) located in a major urban center
3) not evil



I was going to say Netflix but they don't meet 2. They knock it out of the park in 1 and I guess 3 by only being evil by being capitalists unless they have some other poo poo going on.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

bob dobbs is dead posted:

Oracle is always top, the others scramble around for second

Chinese BAT firms are also respectably evil

I'm out of the loop. What makes oracle top evil?

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

so why did she threaten you and what did she threaten to do?

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

Xarn posted:

Also dogs are loving great and thanks to ours, I don't remember the last day I didn't spend multiple active hours outside.

Don't get them on a whim though, they are a significant commitment. And don't get a loving Pug.

Or frenchie

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KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

Boiled Water posted:

doesnít help with the issue of not getting outside. might make it worse tho

yeah i have 2 cats and i barely go outside. because taking depression naps with your cats is :unsmith:

really hoping getting figgies and going into an office helps me unfuck myself. mostly the figgies though

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