interviewing: The Land of the Rising Fig

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Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

dioxazine posted:

i think you're generally right. the well of recruiters trying to hire seems to have largely dried up. on the other hand, the number of recruiting companies seems to have exploded in count

job postings are pretty much spam these days

it's really bad to the point that i've been using a recruiting company to cut through it

# ¿ Feb 28, 2023 17:54

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 03:24

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

fizz balls

# ¿ Mar 1, 2023 04:58

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

theflyingexecutive posted:

One weird trick to get recruiters to leave you alone: trying to find PM work in tech from a non tech background

i'm not looking for PM work but i do have a tech background (though not tech education)

lemme just say... i completely feel you lol

# ¿ Mar 1, 2023 20:41

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

theflyingexecutive posted:

trying to redeem all my soft skills but they may as well be chuck e cheese tickets

yeah seriously, i feel like having a bunch of experience in the industry, learned knowledge, demonstrated knowledge, etc. ... just isn't enough. it's a soul crushing feeling

i really just started applying in earnest over the weekend, but i put in 24 25 applications so far and only got a bite on one

and it's in albany :smithicide:

admittedly it's a bit early to say i'm screwed for sure but having anxiety already isn't helping lol

# ¿ Mar 1, 2023 21:30

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

also i really, really don't wanna use linkedin but i guess i might not have much choice

# ¿ Mar 1, 2023 21:32

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

KidDynamite posted:

why don't you want to use linkedin?

in short, it's social media, which i generally avoid like the plague

i understand most places are using that as basically the recruiting platform though

# ¿ Mar 1, 2023 21:36

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Yeah I really don't want to put a public profile out there either.

yeah that's part of it too. i try to keep my work and personal lives very separate and ever since i had even heard of the concept it was very off-putting

Asleep Style posted:

add former coworkers, put your resume in your profile, and never ever look at the home feed

i guess i can try this. not today though i've done enough job search related poo poo and it's driving me nuts lol

# ¿ Mar 1, 2023 21:46

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

post hole digger posted:

not saying its right, but ive known a couple recruiters who think its weird/sus/a red flag if you dont have a linkedin.

lol of course they do, the site basically does their job for them

# ¿ Mar 2, 2023 01:30

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

ultrafilter posted:

Maybe they never shipped anything.

this is probably it imo

# ¿ Mar 7, 2023 01:09

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

fizzbin is a card game

# ¿ Mar 9, 2023 00:07

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

theflyingexecutive posted:

I'm at 0 for 20 right now (1 rejection, the rest non responses), most not in tech though, but in direct healthcare. all that's been in the last two weeks

i'm more 28 non-responses, three maybes, and one hard no. it's been about 10 days

:sigh:

# ¿ Mar 9, 2023 05:45

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

i figure i might just have to cool it a bit actually, a lot of the things i've applied for (mostly in media, some tech, some business) say 1-2 weeks

# ¿ Mar 9, 2023 05:54

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

AnimeIsTrash posted:

I am in the same boat man, it sucks so bad.

it really does, it's ridiculously demoralizing

i've also noticed that remote positions are kind of a rarity now, probably 85% of the listings i've seen were pretty old and the newer ones don't pay as well as ones that are hybrid or fully in-office

it's some serious bullshit

# ¿ Mar 9, 2023 18:36

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

theflyingexecutive posted:

I feel like businesses successfully salary arbitraged all the remote jobs offshore or to the middle of the country and just have recruiters going after people in Ohio or wherev

i literally did just now get screened for a remote job in cleveland

turns out it was actually hybrid so i noped out

# ¿ Mar 9, 2023 20:38

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

you can commute between cleveland and nyc

i've know people whove done it.

usually you go the other way tho

lol there's no way i'm commuting to ohio three times a week

if it were new jersey or something, or maybe even connecticut or pennsylvania: fine. not ohio

# ¿ Mar 9, 2023 20:52

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

i mean, if i were younger or didn't have a hosed up back i probably would have said yes

they were offering basically the same salary as a local position though, it's not worth it imo

# ¿ Mar 9, 2023 20:55

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

theflyingexecutive posted:

could easily tack on an extra two hours from just getting out of NYC/nj traffic or snowstorms on i80

lol that's true too, even commuting to jersey city from here takes an hour on a good day

# ¿ Mar 9, 2023 20:59

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

rotor posted:

i'm just lookin at distance, i assume traffic is equivalent

330 vs 430 I think? i'm just surprised, i thought itd be farther.

i mean, i don't have a car even, i'd have to either buy one or fly. trains actually take less time most of the time

jersey city is about an hour by car during rush hour and it's 3.7 mi, the PATH train cuts that in half

# ¿ Mar 9, 2023 21:02

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

ultrafilter posted:

Amtrak is fantastic between NYC and DC, OK between Boston and NYC, and the scenic route everywhere else.

i did the accela from boston <-> nyc a few times, and when it wasn't delayed that was like 3.5 hours. thats probably doable but like hobbesmaster said not to ohio

flying was better though. back then a flight was like $50 one-way on jetblue, which was cheaper than amtrak, it was less than an hour and i live by 3 international airports. it was pretty painless all things considered

...but that poo poo's like $150 today, airline passengers are notoriously shitheaded and i bet the checkpoints take a really long time too

gently caress that lol there's gotta be a job around here somewhere

# ¿ Mar 9, 2023 21:34

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

theflyingexecutive posted:

you'd think finding a job in the biggest city in the country would be easier

i'd say it helps knowing i'm not alone but it really doesn't lol :smithicide:

# ¿ Mar 9, 2023 21:43

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

theflyingexecutive posted:

update: just applied for a hospital pm job that had a "scheduling skills assessment" with questions like "if the project is 12 days behind schedule and the one remaining work package will take 7 days, what day will the project be done?"

also had the biggest salary for some reason

i had to do something like that too for uhh hopefully a different healthcare thing lol, it felt like taking the loving SATs again

# ¿ Mar 9, 2023 21:44

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

theflyingexecutive posted:

jfc we're applying for the same jobs

lol you're probably safe

for me it was a bit of a stretch anyway, i don't have any experience with that kind of thing and apparently bombed the test. i got "proficient" which is one step above "completed" lmao

# ¿ Mar 9, 2023 22:13

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

woohoo i have two interviews monday (to be clear not the position theflyingexec was talking about though lol)

# ¿ Mar 10, 2023 19:25

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

bob dobbs is dead posted:

right? if you're doing it cold its a numbers and marketing game. if youre doing it warm its not but you're not

do not stop prospecting until you have signed a job offer.

it could technically be three, i also got screened for a commission-based wall street thing that feels like a scam, but i don't know anything about that kind of position and have literally zero experience doing that kind of thing so i didn't respond yet

but when i saw it i thought "hmm maybe bdid does". it doesn't really seem like something i wanna do though and obviously commission isnt guaranteed

any advice? just let it go?

# ¿ Mar 10, 2023 20:00

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

again i appreciate the sanity check, and yeah, gently caress those guys

# ¿ Mar 10, 2023 20:59

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

qsvui posted:

but, but you're burning bridges???

so does raytheon missile defense. they'll understand

# ¿ Mar 19, 2023 01:58

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

DJ Commie posted:

making my way through the thread since i am going to be resume building and hopefully interviewing

i've been a technican and worked into a network admin role, and have done for almost half a dozen years. i do everything from customer end tier 1 call-ins to core/edge routing, is it reasonable to claim the full breadth of that stuff even though i don't have ccna/ccnp yet? is the cert worth the figgies increase?

absolutely list it, why not?

i got a ccna in like 2004 and it expired long ago so idk anything about the modern program, but i still list that when appropriate with "(expired)"

# ¿ Mar 19, 2023 03:57

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

yeah, being so polite as to not even state what is out of the question for you is not helpful to recruiters or yourself. i don't think anyone will be very surprised that loving raytheon is out.

lol seriously. if you wanna work for raytheon i guess thats on you. i dont

# ¿ Mar 19, 2023 15:05

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

ultrafilter posted:

https://twitter.com/brdskggs/status/1637114268876144640

the guy mentions it in the thread too but i've found that bingGPT is pretty well guarded against prompt injection kind of stuff

# ¿ Mar 19, 2023 16:21

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

hobbesmaster posted:

https://twitter.com/brdskggs/status/1637441452677427200?s=46&t=TBi_iSImUmzjTxXAKsMEHw

heh

it really is pretty decent at it. admittedly i didn't try very hard, but immediately obvious ways don't work

the only way i've been able to get it to do anything even similar was by having a somewhat long conversation (it's limited to 15 replies anyway) and then telling it to modify a previous response that was way further up the stack

# ¿ Mar 19, 2023 16:47

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

i've been seeing listings for recruiter positions and just, lol, no

# ¿ Mar 20, 2023 19:14

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

just passed on a sales position this morning actually, i don't think i can do it

# ¿ Mar 20, 2023 19:17

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

its true im a post ghost

# ¿ Mar 20, 2023 19:19

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

Chopstick Dystopia posted:

getting passed on after interviewing 4+ times at a company over a month+ feels so loving bad I jave never had this ratio of getting interviews to not landing a job in the 15 years of my career

I lnow it's a numbers game but it's way easier to handle rejection at interview 1 than after a month of writing code and architecture for a place on and off

it sucks so much. it's much worse than not getting an interview at all

# ¿ Mar 22, 2023 13:38

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

i would agree but thats like the one part of labor law the us federal government actually cares about unfortunately

# ¿ Mar 22, 2023 23:10

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

oh i'm not unsympathetic, it's something my wife has had to deal with. legally both the employer and employee can get hosed hard though so i understand a hard pass on that

# ¿ Mar 22, 2023 23:20

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

afaik it's basically an automatic felony once you leave, and even assuming that doesn't cause you trouble you can't come back for 10 years anyway. i'm not really sure what they expect people to do in that scenario

# ¿ Mar 23, 2023 00:22

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

it depends on what you want to do at art school

# ¿ Mar 23, 2023 03:02

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

like if its just a couple of courses at a community college or whatever? sure, you'll probably enjoy it and chances are you'll learn something

undergrad art school is actually difficult. a lot of people think it will be easy and wash out because of this. it's not just drawing, taking pictures, making movies, sculpting, whatever � you have to learn history, styles, artists, critiques, do presentations and galleries, etc. it's a huge pain in the rear end, very expensive and i can't recommend it on a lark

graduate stuff is basically more of the same, just... well, more of it

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 03:24

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

Achmed Jones posted:

yeah the art students i knew in undergrad spent way more time busting their asses than i ever did for either my CS coursework or my humanities stuff. the art students also did more work than any of the engineering majors i knew

it is seriously a literally unbelievable amount of work, STEM majors have no idea lol

# ¿ Mar 23, 2023 03:17

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