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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:was out doing errands and only just now saw the replay wasn't HIS fault
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It was a bad wreck, but there's this one that I bet most of you don't know about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EPIbK9I4M8 And then there's these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muCveDtBdew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFp4rXLReaU
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Aug 20, 2018 11:21
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Hopefully he has a full recovery. It's a long list of injuries. You could see that crash coming a mile off; the live TV view from RHR's car you were thinking "he's not going to... surely not....oh sh.."
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Aug 20, 2018 11:42
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Nit Wit Dog poo poo posted:It was a bad wreck, but there's this one that I bet most of you don't know about. Call me morbid, but I'm familiar with all of those. I'm actually familiar with the majority of fatal/near-fatal crashes in modern era (1970s onwards) IndyCar and F1, as well as the most famous NASCAR and NHRA crashes. I'm also a big fan of such shows as Destroyed In Seconds, Seconds From Disaster, and Air Crash Investigation/Mayday ("fun" fact, Lauda Air was on one episode). ...yeah, maybe there is a touch of morbidity there... 
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Aug 20, 2018 11:48
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So pre-surgery, the damage done appears to be a pair of broken ankles, a broken arm, possible fractured vertebra, and a bruised lung. Ouch.
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Aug 20, 2018 14:14
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Long Beach renewals are out, no price increase.
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Aug 20, 2018 19:59
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So, was Wickens running Indycar's Fantasy Challenge or something IT MONDAY AFTERNOON WHERE MY POINTS AT
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Aug 20, 2018 21:58
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https://twitter.com/IndyCar/status/1031661587634036736
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Aug 20, 2018 22:59
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The latest update sounds rather concerning: https://twitter.com/SPMIndyCar/status/1031661569657200641
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I came here to post the press release but I have been beatenquote:Schmidt Peterson Motorsports driver Robert Wickens continues to be treated at Lehigh Valley Hospital - Cedar Crest following injuries sustained in the ABC Supply 500 at Pocono Raceway on Sunday, Aug. 19. An MRI was instrumental in revealing the most appropriate surgical course and Wickens is undergoing surgery Monday evening for a spinal injury.
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Aug 20, 2018 23:05
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Tangential, it's amazing how much MRIs have revolutionized injury treatment as we know it.
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Aug 20, 2018 23:08
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eh, it could well be to repair a disk or something along those lines; spinal surgeries are not fun or great but they also aren't uncommon for spinal injuries regardless of severity either. i would not get too concerned unless we hear definitive bad news regarding what kind of injury he has.
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:eh, it could well be to repair a disk or something along those lines; spinal surgeries are not fun or great but they also aren't uncommon for spinal injuries regardless of severity either. i would not get too concerned unless we hear definitive bad news regarding what kind of injury he has. Yeah. I think it might be a cracked disk but no cord damage. Better to stabilize that area first before moving on to the legs.
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Aug 20, 2018 23:17
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So Wickens is gonna come back next season and win a very strong pole position at Pocono, right? That's how the burden of racing for Sam Schmitt goes if I'm learning the pattern correctly.
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Spaced God posted:So Wickens is gonna come back next season and win a very strong pole position at Pocono, right? How's he going to DNQ in 2020?
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Spaced God posted:So Wickens is gonna come back next season and win a very strong pole position at Pocono, right? I’m just hoping he doesn’t follow Sam Schmidt’s personal pattern. 
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Boomer The Cannon posted:How's he going to DNQ in 2020? Missing quali time by giving an at-length interview about how he peed himself
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Space Racist posted:I’m just hoping he doesn’t follow Sam Schmidt’s personal pattern. So stay away from Walt Disney World? 
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Space Racist posted:I’m just hoping he doesn’t follow Sam Schmidt’s personal pattern. KingShibby posted:Back in 2016 Sam Schmidt had a MAGA hat attached to the back on his wheelchair's headrest, that's the extent I've seen anyone in IndyCar make any sort of political statement yeah i also hope not hunnert car pileup fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Aug 21, 2018 |
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Fauxhawk Express posted:yeah i also hope not I was referring moreso to the paralysis but this is also a major concern.
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https://twitter.com/indy44/status/1031686857443004416 whispering: methanol, methanol quietly chanting: meth-a-nol, meth-a-nol stomping and clapping: methanol! meTHANOL! METHANOL just goin absolutely apeshit: METHANOL, METHANOL, METHANOL
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Cygni posted:https://twitter.com/indy44/status/1031686857443004416  METHanol. Not even once.
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But but but the pump! The corn pump trophy! Finally watched the race. Kinda glad I didn't catch it live because even watching it knowing Wickens is okay (relatively), you know nobody is sure right then.
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This was the first live Indycar race I showed my coworker. We ended up going out to grab lunch, because it was better than sitting in front of his TV listening to endless interviews and "we have no information." He is still willing to give oval racing a shot, but this was not the series introduction I wanted.
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bennyfactor posted:
I know it’s not a serious post but switching to full methanol would be a very easy way to up the horsepower without any major changes. I’m all for it.
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harperdc posted:I know it’s not a serious post but switching to full methanol would be a very easy way to up the horsepower without any major changes. I’m all for it. Instant 100hp boost from the methanol alone. All these sponsors pulling out is very alarming to me
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Holy poo poo, that sort of surgery insinuates a herniated disc, doesn't it?
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It insinuates he might be stuck in a wheelchair. Is it just me or does everyone else also blame Hunter-Reay for not giving him any room? Wickens was already on the loving apron, RHRs spotter kept telling him he was there, and yet he still came down on him. And then Fatso Andretti blamed it all on Wickens. I'm coming around to the idea that IndyCar has no business racing on super-speedways anymore. At least a stock car has enough stuff around the survival cell to absorb and dissipate energy before it gets to the driver. If one of the most promising talents in a decade is paralyzed because of this, I am going to have a very hard time watching any more of those kinds of races.
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drgitlin posted:It insinuates he might be stuck in a wheelchair. Broken vertebrae doesn't always suggest paralysis.
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The crash is 100% Wickens fault. RHR left him space and Wickens should have backed off more. I honestly think Wickens was backing off but lacked the experience to know when he was clear and just barely clipped RHR. Still though you don't pass in the middle of Pocono Turn 2 just like you don't pass like that at Indy I hope Wickens can return next year but also that he learns from this
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drgitlin posted:It insinuates he might be stuck in a wheelchair. You don't pass like that in T2 at Pocono. It sucks, I love wickens, and I loathe seeing a crash like that. But its 100% on him.
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KingShibby posted:The crash is 100% Wickens fault. This.
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It was a rookie move, getting too antsy at the start of a 500 miler and trying to pass where you can’t pass. Hopefully he learns from it when he comes back SOON
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The Kimoa Kid posted:Broken vertebrae doesn't always suggest paralysis. on its own no, however the part where it says 'spinal cord injury' is not encouraging
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KingShibby posted:The crash is 100% Wickens fault. RHR left him space and Wickens should have backed off more. I honestly think Wickens was backing off but lacked the experience to know when he was clear and just barely clipped RHR. double posting because phone, but rhr even said himself that he thought he was clear of him by turn 2 and came down. even if it was an optimistic move for that point of the race, it is blatantly obvious to anyone with working eyes that wickens held his line and rhr came down on him. as far as indycars on superspeedways, i mean at that point you're talking about axing the indy 500. this would kill indycar. no fan or driver wants that race to go awaycfor obvious reasons, and hell this crash took place on a track similar to indianapolis and specifically in a turn modeled after the corners at indianapolis. as far as i'm concerned, the people who should decide whether a track is too dangerous should be the drivers themselves. if they have the same reservations about an oval race as they had before that horrid vegas shitshow, indycar should listen and shitcan the track from the schedule. for places like pocono and indy, i think the real answer needs to be a solution to catch fences, especially on parts of the track with no grandstands like turn 2 at pocono. DEEP STATE PLOT fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Aug 21, 2018 |
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:i think the real answer needs to be a solution to catch fences, especially on parts of the track with no grandstands like turn 2 at pocono. I mean at that point we're debating what's better, a catch fence or some trees, but it really does seem like the safer situation would be taking the catch fence off and clearing trees out of the area. Edit: Looking at it on Google Maps, at the speed he was going when he climbed there's a good chance he would have gone into a building or public road if the fence wasn't there. That has got to be one of the closest oval corners to a public street outside of turns 1 and 4 at IMS. Bentai posted:This was the first live Indycar race I showed my coworker. The first in-person Indycar race for my wife, my sister's husband, and his father was Vegas. My wife still gets jumpy at wrecks like these even when she knows they're coming and I can't blame her. IOwnCalculus fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Aug 21, 2018 |
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i don't mean get rid of catch fencing. for pocono's turn 2, for example, the wall could be a fair few feet higher without issue because it would not be blocking anyone's view. had that wall been 4 or 5 feet higher, this crash would not have been anywhere near as bad. elsewhere, they need to come up with a catch fence that doesn't so thoroughly chew cars up like this.
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:double posting because phone, but rhr even said himself that he thought he was clear of him by turn 2 and came down. even if it was an optimistic move for that point of the race, it is blatantly obvious to anyone with working eyes that wickens held his line and rhr came down on him. in the end, it doesnt matter. both of them were out of the race and wickens is in the hospital, so.
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:i don't mean get rid of catch fencing. for pocono's turn 2, for example, the wall could be a fair few feet higher without issue because it would not be blocking anyone's view. had that wall been 4 or 5 feet higher, this crash would not have been anywhere near as bad. elsewhere, they need to come up with a catch fence that doesn't so thoroughly chew cars up like this. Yeah, a taller SAFER would have been a big help here.
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