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El Burbo posted:paging droyer I want to be inside strelizia
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i just got done watching gunbuster and diebuster, and i gotta say..... gunbuster was a mess. it's got some hype scenes like the gunbuster fight, but it's really disjointed and the plot from episode to episode is hardly connected sometimes. diebuster was much better told imo. the biggest head scratcher to me is them running to find the aliens, barely encountering them, and then running back to earth? was that what happened? what was the point of going out in the first place? recon? that being said, the ending of Darling in the franxx is such a huge loving ripoff of gunbuster and it's so obvious after watching it (including the two lights returning to earth).... also, noriko rubbing loving salt into oneechan's wounds wrt coach on the roof with crutches was... wow. like, the dude is obviously dying noriko what are you thinking. and then when oneechan makes it drat obvious "he's loving dying and you're really digging the knife in noriko!" noriko screams "COOOAAAACHEEE!!" for the 50th time in 5 episodes. Also, the love for coach between oneechan and redhead is not really built up or earned, but for some reason they both love him enough to catfight over him? and redhead's constant switching between friend and enemy is weird. i have to say the neatest thing about gunbuster is the concept of relativistic differences in time being explored Condiv fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Aug 18, 2018 |
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Aug 18, 2018 00:58
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FranXX is 24 episodes of someone elbowing you in the ribs and asking if you liked (insert popular mecha anime here) and regardless of your answer they sit back satisfied with themself. Every 24 minutes.
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Aug 18, 2018 00:59
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Condiv posted:i just got done watching gunbuster and diebuster, and i gotta say..... I remember reading some developer commentary that implied they originally intended gunbuster to end with episode 4, and you could totally see that. Don't have a source though i'm afraid.
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Aug 18, 2018 01:08
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Condiv posted:i just got done watching gunbuster and diebuster, and i gotta say..... Are you talking about when they lose Smith? The fleet retreats because they got loving wrecked by the space monsters and realized they were in way over their heads. I agree it's all fuckin over the place tonally. You get the sense Anno wanted to make four or five different shows here. Condiv posted:also, noriko rubbing loving salt into oneechan's wounds wrt coach on the roof with crutches was... wow. like, the dude is obviously dying noriko what are you thinking. and then when oneechan makes it drat obvious "he's loving dying and you're really digging the knife in noriko!" noriko screams "COOOAAAACHEEE!!" for the 50th time in 5 episodes. basically shes just a dumb rear end nerd who aint got no dad, doesnt understand how to do relationships and latches onto anyone who gives her the time of day. Condiv posted:Also, the love for coach between oneechan and redhead is not really built up or earned, but for some reason they both love him enough to catfight over him? and redhead's constant switching between friend and enemy is weird. They introduce this subplot in a really weird way, the "scene" at the bit of ep3 where they roll a bunch of text on screen about the physics of warp drive while playing audio of Coach and Kazumi drunkenly karaoke-ing a suggestive song together at a party. Especially annoying for western viewers because you have to read the subs as well. I think the reason why it isn't really built up in a more conventional way is because the series is shackled to Noriko's point of view. Much like how Evangelion would go on to hide from us everything Shinji doesn't know, but quite a lot more so (later NGE has a lot of stuff from Misato's perspective and there's no analog to that in Gunbuster). If Noriko doesn't know something is happening, it almost doesn't exist. It's weird and sudden when it's revealed that Coach is banging his teenage subordinate because it's weird and sudden when Noriko eventually finds out. I don't think Jung really cares about Coach, she's just giving everyone poo poo because she's jealous type who resents that Noriko (useless weepy lump) keeps getting picked to do cool poo poo instead of her (sexy bad rear end communist). Condiv posted:i have to say the neatest thing about gunbuster is the concept of relativistic differences in time being explored Yeah, this is a really unique and cool element which I was sad to see Diebuster (mostly) ditch.
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Aug 18, 2018 01:32
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skasion posted:Are you talking about when they lose Smith? The fleet retreats because they got loving wrecked by the space monsters and realized they were in way over their heads. that's part of my problem. first of all, it's not clear they're retreating back to earth. I thought they were like "well, this is a pretty hosed up area and it's nothing to do with our goal so lets move on instead of incurring more losses". Also, the fight was p much non-existent. like you mentioned earlier, the story is shackled to noriko's perspective, and that makes it hard to grasp the severity of their losses. they rattle off numbers later, but it's not a good way to tell they were bodied. likewise, having it shackled to noriko's perspective and the enemy is too fast for her to see or react to means a battle with.... nothing? she literally goes out, freaks out, comes back, and it turns out they retreated and smith is dead. it's a really bad way to show that their force was bodied by the aliens in episode 4 it's obvious the aliens kicked their asses, but you don't have that in episode 3. you experience one ship get blown up (offscreen), aliens rush around without being seen, smith dies off screen, and noriko comes back and mopes over smith. quote:They introduce this subplot in a really weird way, the "scene" at the bit of ep3 where they roll a bunch of text on screen about the physics of warp drive while playing audio of Coach and Kazumi drunkenly karaoke-ing a suggestive song together at a party. Especially annoying for western viewers because you have to read the subs as well. I think the reason why it isn't really built up in a more conventional way is because the series is shackled to Noriko's point of view. Much like how Evangelion would go on to hide from us everything Shinji doesn't know, but quite a lot more so (later NGE has a lot of stuff from Misato's perspective and there's no analog to that in Gunbuster). If Noriko doesn't know something is happening, it almost doesn't exist. It's weird and sudden when it's revealed that Coach is banging his teenage subordinate because it's weird and sudden when Noriko eventually finds out. yeah i missed this. and it's a terrible way to introduce that subplot. and it still feels unearned cause a drunken flirtation shouldn't result in the meltdown of episode 5. Droyer posted:I remember reading some developer commentary that implied they originally intended gunbuster to end with episode 4, and you could totally see that. Don't have a source though i'm afraid. imo, this would've made things worse, cause coach spent the series so far building up noriko's talent, she spent a good deal of the series not actually showing it, and then in episode 4 she beats the big bad by letting it stab her robot and blowing it up. episode 5 (the latter half) is much more of a redemption of noriko and what coach was trying to get her to be imo. Condiv fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Aug 18, 2018 |
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Tarage posted:Trigger folks put out a few Darling books, including one that has robutts in various cute outfits. Back in episode 15, when the Delphinium had its head gear slapped off and it was revealed that Dr. FranXX had created robo-hair, I seriously questioned "why would they do that?". Even in the face of the idea that the mechs were designed to mimick the female form so the girls would be more comfortable mind melding with it, it still seemed like doing the most. We already had stuff like this on the Strelizia but seeing an actual full head of hair underneath just made me stop and think. Seeing these pictures I'm now wondering "why didn't they take the stupid head ornament off" because if your goal is to put the robots in mildly suggestive poses, why make her head a bigger draw for attention than the nonexistant metallic booty you're having them put on display? I mean Argentea at least has Faux stocking on in addition to inexplicable leather boots to draw your eyes to the intended area. But why do they make it so my eyes are immediately drawn to the boat on top of another robots head? Instead of giving us what each stampede mode would look like, we got swimsuits and Absolute territory. I liked the mass production models more.
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Brought To You By posted:Back in episode 15, when the Delphinium had its head gear slapped off and it was revealed that Dr. FranXX had created robo-hair, I seriously questioned "why would they do that?". Even in the face of the idea that the mechs were designed to mimick the female form so the girls would be more comfortable mind melding with it, it still seemed like doing the most. We already had stuff like this on the Strelizia but seeing an actual full head of hair underneath just made me stop and think. Seeing these pictures I'm now wondering "why didn't they take the stupid head ornament off" because if your goal is to put the robots in mildly suggestive poses, why make her head a bigger draw for attention than the nonexistant metallic booty you're having them put on display? I mean Argentea at least has Faux stocking on in addition to inexplicable leather boots to draw your eyes to the intended area. But why do they make it so my eyes are immediately drawn to the boat on top of another robots head? People want to gently caress that robit
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Aug 18, 2018 06:22
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Futaba Anzu posted:People want to gently caress that robit That they do...that they do.
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I wish the show had been like what me and my friends hoped it would've been when all we had was promo images: show about sentient giant robot girls doing stuff. That would've been great. Heck, had they still had the whole pilot thing but had the girls just be the robots would've been fine. Atleast it would've been unique, or atleast played out something like ZoE: Dolores. (beyond the fact we were totally into the whole robot girl thing anyway.) Like, we've been talking about this, and the show has disrupted expectations across not only it's run, but before it even came out. There's alot about it that feels disingenuous. Diabetes Forecast fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Aug 20, 2018 |
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Aug 20, 2018 22:30
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Tarage posted:Trigger folks put out a few Darling books, including one that has robutts in various cute outfits. They really loved their characters, but couldn't really put them into a suitable world for them. drat shame.
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Understanding posted:They really loved their characters, but couldn't really put them into a suitable world for them. drat shame. They had a good setting for them too, one that let them play off each other and the setup. The show just crashed and burned on what should have been the landing run.
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Aug 21, 2018 00:32
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Diabetes Forecast posted:I wish the show had been like what me and my friends hoped it would've been when all we had was promo images: show about sentient giant robot girls doing stuff. That would've been great. Heck, had they still had the whole pilot thing but had the girls just be the robots would've been fine. Atleast it would've been unique, or atleast played out something like ZoE: Dolores. (beyond the fact we were totally into the whole robot girl thing anyway.) I think the plot of the manga 'Buster Dress' has the male pilot getting into a relationship with the A.I that co-pilots his mech. Might be worth looking into if that is what you were looking for.
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Aug 21, 2018 15:40
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Would you recommend this show for young children who liked LWA? Thanks!
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Aug 21, 2018 16:55
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P-Mack posted:Would you recommend this show for young children who liked LWA? Thanks! I wouldn't recommend it to anyone
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Aug 21, 2018 17:01
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P-Mack posted:Would you recommend this show for young children who liked LWA? Thanks! Naah. The messages are weird and unpleasant, the content and subject matter are unsuitable for young kids, and it’s just not a very well put together show.
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Aug 21, 2018 17:04
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Thanks, hopefully they do better with their next project then.
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Aug 21, 2018 17:10
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P-Mack posted:Thanks, hopefully they do better with their next project then. I should note that even if it’s better (and this was a Trigger-A1 coproduction where A1-affiliated freelancers did most of the writing, so it’s not all that representative of Trigger’s house style), there’s no guarantee Trigger’s next project will be suitable for kids. Insofar as any studio has a distinct personality, because these days they’re really more nodes of a vast, ever-shifting anime network who contract and subcontract to each other ad infinitum, Trigger’s core staff were raised on cheesy, ultraviolent, taboo-flouting ‘80s direct-to-video animation, and it shows. They do have range, as LWA attests, but a Trigger original that’s pure horny/grotesque/stylish teenage id is more likely than anything else. As an alternative, might I suggest the current series of GeGeGe no Kitaro? It’s not quite got LWA’s manic, anarchic spirit or wild visual experimentation, but it’s a very solid, entertaining kids’ show with a similar supernatural action vibe, and could also serve as a useful teaching tool - apart from introducing your kids to lots of weird/cool Japanese mythological monsters, it tackles a wide variety of heavy and complex real-world subjects in an intelligent and sensitive way, which could be a pretty good conversation-starter. Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Aug 21, 2018 |
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Darth Walrus posted:I should note that even if it’s better (and this was a Trigger-A1 coproduction where A1-affiliated freelancers did most of the writing, so it’s not all that representative of Trigger’s house style), there’s no guarantee Trigger’s next project will be suitable for kids. Insofar as any studio has a distinct personality, because these days they’re really more nodes of a vast, ever-shifting anime network who contract and subcontract to each other ad infinitum, Trigger’s core staff were raised on cheesy, ultraviolent, taboo-flouting ‘80s direct-to-video animation, and it shows. They do have range, as LWA attests, but a Trigger original that’s pure horny/grotesque/stylish teenage id is more likely than anything else. Cool, I'll check it out. They basically just want to watch Sailor Moon these days so some variety would be nice.
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P-Mack posted:Cool, I'll check it out. They basically just want to watch Sailor Moon these days so some variety would be nice. In that case, might want to ask around the magical girl thread for recs. I know the latest Precure, Hugtto, is getting good buzz, and Princess Tutu is a famous classic. As for zany magical girl comedies, Ojamajo Doremi has a solid rep and was probably a big inspiration for LWA. Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Aug 21, 2018 |
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Aug 21, 2018 17:55
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P-Mack posted:Cool, I'll check it out. They basically just want to watch Sailor Moon these days so some variety would be nice. The newest sequel to Cardcaptor Sakura just finished; the Clear Card Arc. Also Hulu or Netflix may have the original run up for streaming. I also second checking out one of the Pretty Cure iterations as they're basically the spiritual successor to Sailor Moon from Toei. Though outside of the first season being available in low quality on Crunchyroll the others are fansubbed only for now. Princess Tutu is really good but can get a bit dark in its run imo. If your kids are okay with reading subtitles and don't mind older anime series I recommend Akazukin Chacha as its about a trio of kids getting into wacky hijinks with magic involved. It ran around the same time as the original Sailor Moon run in Japan.
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P-Mack posted:Cool, I'll check it out. They basically just want to watch Sailor Moon these days so some variety would be nice.
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Endorph posted:pretty much any precure anime would probably be good for them though those series have less of the romance/sexuality stuff that sailor moon did We started the original pretty cure and don't even try to tell me Nagisa and Honoka are not incredibly, albeit latently, gay for each other.
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Aug 22, 2018 01:54
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Have your kids watch Re: Cutie Honey
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P-Mack posted:We started the original pretty cure and don't even try to tell me Nagisa and Honoka are not incredibly, albeit latently, gay for each other. I watched the first few eps and my impression was that Honoka was gay (not even necessarily latently), but Nagisa was straight. DisDisDis posted:Have your kids watch Re: Cutie Honey Just to make make sure you get  , don't actually do this, P-Mack.
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Similarly don't let your kids watch Madoka Magica.
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Brought To You By posted:I think the plot of the manga 'Buster Dress' has the male pilot getting into a relationship with the A.I that co-pilots his mech. Might be worth looking into if that is what you were looking for.  I love how cute and wholesome these sapient robo-pals are. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Brought To You By posted:I think the plot of the manga 'Buster Dress' has the male pilot getting into a relationship with the A.I that co-pilots his mech. Might be worth looking into if that is what you were looking for. Ohh neat a competent black woman in a manga! You don't see that often, I wonder if... ohh... I guess she dies horribly in like the third scene. Well then.
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7c Nickel posted:Ohh neat a competent black woman in a manga! You don't see that often, I wonder if... ohh... I guess she dies horribly in like the third scene. Well then. Have you read Planetes? I think you'd like Fee Carmichael, if you haven't gotten around to it yet. chiasaur11 fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Aug 26, 2018 |
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Diabetes Forecast posted:
To be honest I'd only read the first chapter but I'm glad you liked it. I wasn't entirely sure how it would pan out. This thread turned into a pseudo-rec thread for more quality mech series which is a plus.
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Spooky bump Mato's book is out with new illustrations Mato: still good
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Good spoooooooop
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El Burbo posted:Spooky bump
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Any news about a second season?
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^The show is completely over, definitively wrapped up, there won't be another season.
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Brought To You By posted:Of all the things to come out of the anime, that 4-koma was fun. Much like Re:Creators, we would have been better off just getting the 4-komas.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Any news about a second season? god i hope not
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KoB posted:god i hope not
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Guy Goodbody posted:Any news about a second season? The moon becomes a mecha and they delete the VRIMtranet across the galaxy. Maybe they like, destroy time too or something.
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