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Thor-Stryker posted:Darling in the FRANXX: I'm attracted to robot rear end Look, after 2017, that's like saying "I take in oxygen." It's the assumed default. So far, so good with this one. Hope it keeps up.
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Thor-Stryker posted:What, you don't like the giant tank-sphere taxis that offer zero protection to the wildlife? I'd be mildly surprised if it doesn't come up next episode, one way or another. Everyone was just a bit busy to discuss it at the moment. (I mean, they still might not, it's hard to know exactly what a show gives a rat's rear end about from just one episode, but at least one moment of angst from something like that is pretty much the default.)
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Jan 14, 2018 01:39
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Darth Walrus posted:Remember that these kids are explicitly part of a martyr-cult where uselessness is worse than death - that big ceremony the klaxosaur interrupted spelled it out. It’s not a surprise that their attitude towards their comrades dying is a little strange. He didn't just give that speech, but from the flicker it seems like a reasonable guess he was delivering that same speech to a bunch of graduating classes at once by holoconference. Orphans basically exist to die for humanity. It also seems like our main cast is some of the more normally socialized pilots, at least at the moment. Hiro actually notices death (pausing for both 02's last partner and the bird that ran into the window), and he's mentioned to have given at least one of his classmates her name, something that distinguishes them from Zero Two. (Or 0 Ni, which is not the worst pun I've seen this year.) Presumably, that'll be table setting for later rebellion. The second part is why I'm assuming we'll get at least a moment with Hiro reacting next episode, emphasizing him as an oddball and showing more of the death cult nature of this whole job.
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Jan 14, 2018 03:08
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Raxivace posted:It seems more like they're co-leads. Yep. They even both get a take on the same opening monologue.
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Jan 14, 2018 20:18
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Huh. Interesting. Seems like Zero and Hiro are the only pair where the girl is notably taller than the guy. Even the shortest of the other male pilots is paired with the shortest of the girls. (Might be a visual signifier on 0-Ni being the more assertive and forward of the two.) Speaking of Miku and Zorome, from the expressions, I am expecting them to continually give each other, or possibly just everyone around them, poo poo. Which could be interesting. Figure a benefit to having multiple couples at the start is that you can get different dynamics, and mutual antagonism is much more fun than just one party being the rear end in a top hat.
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Jan 15, 2018 05:47
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Eej posted:If the show does end up about breaking free of society then 02 being bi and making Franxx work with a same sex pairing when they are apparently only supposed to work with opposite sex pairs gives the writers more material to work with. They would lose their Jian metaphor though (not a big loss) If we're placing bets, while I don't think it's impossible for 02 to pair with another girl, it wouldn't really address her central motivations, and since Hiro's co-lead, it's probably not going to happen. The opening monologues seem to set them up as having paired arcs. 0-Ni finds the dependent nature of the birds beautiful, and combined with her serial relationships it indicates that she finds value in having someone else to weigh herself against (Even if her argument is reasonable, it seems significant that she seems to put no particular value on her own life the second she stops having a partner.) Meanwhile, Hiro hates the need for someone else to have value. If we're going paired arcs, Hiro's probably going to learn to accept his need for others, while 02 has to learn to stand on her own without her whole serial black widow gig. Their relationship is going to be a central part of the plot, however it goes, so it's unlikely either of them's going to pilot without the other, leaving the whole same sex mech piloting to someone else, at least long term. (I agree it's pretty likely something's going to happen with that, to be clear. Just thinking 02's not the most likely narrative vector.) (There was more here once, but it was just me being an rear end and a loving idiot, so it's gone now.) chiasaur11 fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Jan 20, 2018 |
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Jan 20, 2018 02:40
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AnacondaHL posted:He's just a generic kid bully, he has time to grow out of it. If it helps you can imagine him coming from an abusive single parent household or something, rather than wishing a kid death. If you need an explanation, it's worth bringing up that he's much smaller than the standard bully archetype, to the point where most of the girls are taller than he is. He's basically a shrimp with low test scores who's being an rear end in a top hat to try to convince everyone (not least of all himself) that he's hot poo poo in spite of everything.
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Jan 21, 2018 04:43
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Endorph posted:
I don't think the show's a bad example, but I'd say you're taking it further than it goes to support the point. Just right off the bat, the two "manliest" mech pilots have deaths that, in contrast to a lot of the earlier fatalities, are presented as heroic. They're making a last stand to protect their family, giving their lives to keep others safe. More than that, Akihiro's last stand ends with him getting the only heroic and successful example of revenge in the series. He dies taking out someone the viewer probably hates, and who caused more grief than pretty much anyone else in the show. The resolution isn't just talking either. It's a point reached because the massive pile of bodies Tekkadan left behind, and the primary mover for the resolution among the living is Rustal Elion, a pretty classical military father figure type. (And a bastard's bastard, of course). Tekkadan's attack dog methods get most of them killed, and Kudelia's diplomacy leaves her successful and in a happy marriage with Atra, but I don't think it lines up quite as neat as you're implying.
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Jan 23, 2018 06:42
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Ran into links for some VA interviews today. Thought they were mildly interesting.
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Jan 23, 2018 14:33
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Hiro being secretly 716 makes a whole lot of sense given how lovely he is piloting girl mechs. I wonder why he got promoted to the second highest member of the squad then (aside from being a generic protagonist) He tests well, he just can't get it up when he's actually asked to perform. We also saw his sync with Ichigo hit 100 almost immediately before dropping to nothing, so it's not just a theoretical point. It's just, without 02, he's all potential. No kinetic.
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Jan 26, 2018 04:01
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sincx posted:I saw all the "it's NTR" posts and went into episode 3 fearing the worst, but it wasn't that bad. They made the piloting process much more "professional" (for lack of a better word) this time, so it felt more office politics than anything else. Well, there's still strong relationship dynamics too, but yeah. Definitely toned down this time. Just as well. If the show kept up the initial rate of escalation, we'd be past Sex and Violence with Machspeed by episode 4, and enter some incomprehensible new realm of hyperporn by episode ten. With this, it kind of feels like it was so explicit last time to make sure nobody would miss the themes, and now that everyone's on the same page, it's more comfortable letting subtext be, you know, sub. (Like Hiro!)
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Jan 28, 2018 01:37
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Mister Olympus posted:Of course it will be, this show has swerved hard away from anything that initially read as gay Apparently, (and, since I don't speak Japanese, this is grain of salt territory) there was a double meaning with the "sweet" line, with the second meaning being, basically, weak or soft. She was both saying that Ichigo seemed pleasant, and pretty much predicting how things went with the piloting.
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Jan 30, 2018 04:44
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Xun posted:This show isn’t being written by Trigger though, just animated by them Some episodes are. Meanwhile (outside of the action scenes) a lot of the animation is by people more associated with A-1. It's mostly a Gainax reunion, really. Most of the main team worked there back in the day.
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Jan 31, 2018 11:04
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Kyte posted:A terrible opinion! Why would he ask? In character, he has no reason to think that wasn't just a natural byproduct of riding with everyone's new favorite 0-ni, so there's no question involved. The viewer, meanwhile, already knows it's because the dumbass was poo poo-talking Darling, so again. No new information.
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Feb 4, 2018 02:05
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AnacondaHL posted:
Let's not draw insane conclusions from random screenshots. I mean, next you'll be implying FLCL is about sex on some level.
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Feb 4, 2018 07:14
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Ranzear posted:It also looks an awful lot like Star Driver ... because it's the same guy. I don't see anyone listed besides 'character design' on Gad Guard though. Goro's also, so far, the most low drama guy. I mean, the pudgy guy and his partner have no active drama, but there's implied trouble under the surface, especially with the VA interviews. Meanwhile, Goro's able to take some pretty awkward circumstances without complaint. I think I agree he's the most likely to die. Close connection to Ichigo and Hiro, so they get some narrative boost, and he's not serving much of a function in the group outside his relationship to them. On top of that, well, seems like Ikuno has a crush (she blushes when Ichigo compliments her, and apparently is thinking of Ichigo to get in the mood), which is less likely to go anywhere with Goro around.
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Feb 5, 2018 02:45
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Brought To You By posted:I think that too, it's just that why not use a static picture of the actual girl's face? or a [Sound Only] text box? And how do they get that camera shot of the mech's face to provide for the pilot in the first place? I know it's to make use of the fact that for some reason these mech's have human faces digitally projected onto them but it's just some odd detail. I'd love to be some technician building these things and questioning the schematics and design documents. I figure by that point in the design process, the only response from any technician on staff would be "You know what? Sure. Why the gently caress not? Makes as much sense as anything else."
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Feb 5, 2018 09:39
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Kyte posted:VA interviews? Could you link those? Can do.
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Feb 5, 2018 18:06
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AnacondaHL posted:
Pretty much, yeah. So far, on a basic premise level, we have 1) The APEs declaring every mech needs One Boy and One Girl to pilot. 2) APE being shown to be shady as hell. The two add up to at least leave some questions open. And with how IBO ended, it's not like it'd be making unprecedented plays for a mech anime.
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Feb 5, 2018 19:46
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Just going to drop a quote from Ikuno's VA, from an interview right before episode 4 came out.Ishigami Shizuka posted:As for future developments for Ikuno, please look forward to finding out what she’s thinking about and what she cherishes the most, as well as seeing hints of something important to her that spurs her into action. As I said, it's too early for me to actually put money on the table, and it doesn't actually nail anything down. It's just another bit on the pile with the blush and the shoulder tap that makes me go "hmmn."
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Feb 5, 2018 22:25
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Chev posted:Oh hey, regarding the show's mecha designer, Shigeto Koyama, it had slipped my mind earlier but he's also the man behind Inferno Cop's visuals. NANI?
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Feb 6, 2018 01:44
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Guy Goodbody posted:The actual director is a guy named Atsushi Nishigori, who worked on a bunch of stuff, including Gurenn Lagann and Diebuster. The only things he's been the overall director for are the Idolmaster TV show and movie. Hayashi' also did a bunch of games and visual novels, including Steins;Gate. Looking over the list, and assuming that this is in line with his past stuff (possible, but not guaranteed, people like to change things up and all) lack of ambition is not likely to be its defining flaw.
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Feb 8, 2018 05:39
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Willias posted:After watching the episode, the preview didn’t really show poo poo. Interesting dynamic with 02 and Hiro this time. Seems she really does love him, does care about him, and the second he dies, she's really going to drop him like a stone. While we're on the topic, it's interesting that both he and 02 have reputations in the exact opposite direction. Hiro's empathetic, and way more human than expected from a parasite. Meanwhile, 02's... well, let's be honest. Her getting people killed and not giving a gently caress is the least surprising revelation ever.
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Feb 10, 2018 18:48
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Triggerhappypilot posted:Hah. You all thought FRANXX was a sex metaphor. It's actually a drugs metaphor. Secretly, it's about rock and roll.
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Feb 10, 2018 21:10
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There Bias Two posted:Yeah, they even ritualistically exclude them from interactions with other human beings. If you notice during the ceremony, they are the only people with their faces exposed. Other than the other parasites, Papa and Mama are probably the only people they know. I think you mean Nana and Hachi. Papa's a different guy. One of the many with a covered face. Nana and Hachi seem the most likely of the named cast so far to be purestrain humans, but even that's not a sure thing. Nana also seems to give half a drat about the health and safety of the parasites under her command, which might come into play later.
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Feb 12, 2018 01:26
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Sarcophallus posted:Their names are literally 7 and 8, so it's quite likely they're parasites. I doubt this 'growing up' business, though. I suspect they're just built that way. Also suspect that this is one of those, 'the humans have been dead for a very long time' plot lines. We've already seen that the Parasites when they were younger and smaller, so being custom grown at the target age doesn't fit. At the same time, if they used to be pilots, then I'd think Zorome could just ask them for the story. Curious where this is going.
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Feb 12, 2018 08:07
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Brought To You By posted:
It's been interesting to watch this show, because there's all these little touches and directorial flourishes for a story that's this season's go-to example for "What the gently caress, anime?!". Until this episode, it's kind of felt either too smart to be as dumb as it was, or the reverse. You had characters who felt thinly sketched getting really detailed little animations to show their emotions, tiny thematic hints for a show that spent all of episode 2 yelling "IT'S SEX!" at the top of its lungs, and fancy directing tricks over scenes that advanced fairly basic plot beats. This episode, though, just felt clever, building off earlier developments and showing new angles on most of the main characters. Made it a lot easier to understand as a passion project, and much easier to believe it has something worth saying.
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Feb 14, 2018 04:28
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Willias posted:didn’t the blonde guy die in space patrol luluco He vanished, but Luluco vowed to chase him across the multiverse to reunite with him.
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Feb 18, 2018 05:13
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Sindai posted:It was their own fault all those other dead boys didn't love her enough. Well, I wouldn't use the term fault here, but our Hiro (and her darling) seems to be the first of the bunch to actually care about 02 rather than viewing her as a monster and a tool for the defense of humanity. Not exactly a surprise she seemed pissed that he had to go and die like everyone else.
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Feb 18, 2018 06:32
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There Bias Two posted:What else would you do at a Denny's? Seems redundant. A quick one episode fight scene and/or panhandling, I'd think.
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Feb 19, 2018 13:37
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Overlord K posted:I'm glad it was Hiro just interrupting her instead of the actual worst trope ever of "Huh, what did you say?" that makes me want to explode whenever it is used. I also like that Hiro not getting it feels less dense than usual. She's his friend, they kissed once and it was terrible, so they're just basically like family, no problem. I mean, if he and Zero Two weren't together, it'd be different, but they are, so he's got no reason to think about Ichigo feeling that way, especially considering how they were brought up.
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Feb 25, 2018 04:22
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Caphi posted:
Only, you know, he doesn't? At all? He has a lot of scenes with her, they banter about old times, he clearly gives a poo poo about her. He just cares more about Zero Two. (As in, they can be in the middle of a conversation, and Zero Two walks by, Hiro pauses it to say hey to his girlfriend, then goes back into the conversation picking up right where he left off.) It's not even that he's dense about her feelings so much as he assumes they're both on the same page. They're friends, tried to be partners, it was a clusterfuck, best to move on. I mean, a guy not getting a girl might have romantic feelings for him when her confession to him before the big mission was "I think of you like a brother" does not strike me as primarily being the guy's failing.
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Feb 26, 2018 05:37
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Hunt11 posted:I don’t typically associate adorable innocence with being a neckbeard but what do I know? Mikazuki kisses like he don't even give a gently caress, and he fucks like he kills. Right in the cockpit of a six story death robot.
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Feb 27, 2018 04:11
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It's not exactly new ground, and things may fall apart later, but at the moment I'm really enjoying Hiro and Zero's relationship. She treats him like a co-conspirator in her plans for chaos in the full knowledge he'll try to stop her, because it's more fun for both of them that way. They complement each other, instead of either being redundant or just going off in their own directions.
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Mar 5, 2018 02:26
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Dog Kisser posted:She's like bugs Bunny Moves like Roadrunner, though. Meep meep, darling. (On an unrelated note, I never noticed until the latest episode just how short Ichigo is until now. I always kinda thought of her being around Kokoro's height, but no. She's even shorter than Miku.) chiasaur11 fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Mar 5, 2018 |
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Mar 5, 2018 04:02
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Diabetes Forecast posted:This thread consistently attracts the crazy people. Yup.
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Mar 6, 2018 02:19
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Endorph posted:*said in a thread for an anime that wouldn't exist if tons of girls hadnt watched gundam and wanted to gently caress char and therefore made the mecha genre consistently popular enough into the 80s and 90s for evangelion to be created and gainax to take off* That's not entirely true. Some of those girls wanted Amuro to gently caress Char.
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Mar 6, 2018 02:34
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DisDisDis posted:It is law that all animes MUST gently caress I thought it was the law that all animes must get into compromising situations that look like they'll almost gently caress, but actual loving is strongly discouraged.
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Mar 8, 2018 05:51
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Futaba Anzu posted:how many western kid shows do you see where they gently caress Do we count Fraggle Rock, or...?
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Kashuno posted:I am finally caught up. Glad goro is just like “hm I have realized my feelings and am going to be upfront about it” "I don't expect anything in response. Just figured I should put the cards on the table."
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