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aniviron
Sep 11, 2014



TheParadigm posted:

How does the adder compare to an Ice ferret?

They're sort of inverse. Adder is a light that wants to be a medium, IFR is a medium that wants to be a light. IFR is usually used for close up work when it's used at all these days. Lower mounts, bigger target, faster than an Adder, doesn't have good PPC quirks. More durable though.

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Dreadwroth2
Feb 28, 2019



Did Piranha ever make MW5 not be terrible? Or do I already know the answer to that?

I was also one of the idiot $60 founders but I chose the Dadlas, and ended up with all the other chonkdads, probably from just playing a ton of fun Goonlance rumbles. The good ol WOL times.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!

The Dadlas may well be the best founder's mech, such as they are, so...

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Never respect an atlas.

Always push their poo poo in.

Pattonesque
Jul 14, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Third World Reagan posted:

Never respect an atlas.

Always push their poo poo in.

Atlases love to push and hate getting pushed

Starkk
Dec 31, 2008


Out of the Phase 3 Heros on sale, which would you all suggest to buy? Which would make the best brawler?

TjyvTompa
Jun 1, 2001

im gay

Starkk posted:

Out of the Phase 3 Heros on sale, which would you all suggest to buy? Which would make the best brawler?

For brawling the Sleipnir. Another good mech on sale is the RFL-LK.
If you got money to spare the MDD-BA comes with a ballistic torso so you can run a UAC/20 on it, pretty fun but not especially good.

Pattonesque
Jul 14, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Starkk posted:

Out of the Phase 3 Heros on sale, which would you all suggest to buy? Which would make the best brawler?


TjyvTompa posted:

For brawling the Sleipnir. Another good mech on sale is the RFL-LK.
If you got money to spare the MDD-BA comes with a ballistic torso so you can run a UAC/20 on it, pretty fun but not especially good.

Yeah Sleipnir is the one to get, it's one of the best mechs in the game period

Ultraviolet is also a good mech with legions of UAC/2s

Starkk
Dec 31, 2008


TjyvTompa posted:

For brawling the Sleipnir. Another good mech on sale is the RFL-LK.
If you got money to spare the MDD-BA comes with a ballistic torso so you can run a UAC/20 on it, pretty fun but not especially good.


Pattonesque posted:

Yeah Sleipnir is the one to get, it's one of the best mechs in the game period

Ultraviolet is also a good mech with legions of UAC/2s
Thanks! Sleipnir it is!

Plek
Jul 30, 2009


Dreadwroth2 posted:

Did Piranha ever make MW5 not be terrible? Or do I already know the answer to that?

I was also one of the idiot $60 founders but I chose the Dadlas, and ended up with all the other chonkdads, probably from just playing a ton of fun Goonlance rumbles. The good ol WOL times.

The weird visual poo poo like oddball textures in some places, generic bro MC, some of the voice acting... there's no fixing that. However there's a few mods that shore up some of the shortcomings pretty well. The AI mod is great and makes everyone better. There are mods that add weapons and mechs at appropriate times, some that do resizing, coloration, a better HUD, weapon tweaks, and others. The actual shooty bits are fairly decent, but it lacks a lot of the mech simulation that earlier titles had. Although I think there's a mod to move the game back in that direction too.

So yeah, if you can get it on sale, I'd say it's worth trying out. I still haven't bothered to beat it, but it's pretty fun with some friends too. (Just get the mod that lets your friends actually customize their mechs.)

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006



I just bought an ultraviolet because of the sale & free mc i've accumulated, it's drat good fun with 8x uac2
I just have to hang back & remember I'm a giant bomb full of ammo then I do fairly well.

Obviously after a few beers that plan goes to poo poo & I explode most the time.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!

For the Dire Wolf there's always this:
https://twitch.tv/236632705

https://twitch.tv/236630621

gently caress it the link doesn't work but its a dire with a uac 20 and 2 uac5s and 2 uac10s lol

Dreadwroth2
Feb 28, 2019



Plek posted:

The weird visual poo poo like oddball textures in some places, generic bro MC, some of the voice acting... there's no fixing that. However there's a few mods that shore up some of the shortcomings pretty well. The AI mod is great and makes everyone better. There are mods that add weapons and mechs at appropriate times, some that do resizing, coloration, a better HUD, weapon tweaks, and others. The actual shooty bits are fairly decent, but it lacks a lot of the mech simulation that earlier titles had. Although I think there's a mod to move the game back in that direction too.

So yeah, if you can get it on sale, I'd say it's worth trying out. I still haven't bothered to beat it, but it's pretty fun with some friends too. (Just get the mod that lets your friends actually customize their mechs.)

Yeah I played it a bit with the Xbox Game Pass, the aiming felt super not great, and the enemy AI was pretty bad.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

There are no men like me. There's only me.





Is there a "good" Rifleman IIC?

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009



The RFL-IIC-2 for Dakka and the RFL-IIC-A for Gauss Vomit.

Both mechs have a silly amount of gun for their tonnage, but you will always be a glass cannon in the RFL-IIC. No getting around that.

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014



If you're willing to be fragile and go slow, you can totally manage 6xUAC2 on the RFL IIC 2, and it's worth it imo. I think the RFL IIC flat out is even better, though- it doesn't look like much, it's very slow for its tonnage and the weapons don't look special but the quirk that lets you drop four LPLs at once is terrific, this mech is underrated. It's so easy to peek and focus damage in this thing.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009



Yeah, the quad LPL one is under-rated. You need top tier positional awareness since you're slower than dirt, but if you can find a good spot to sit at ~600m its sustained DPS is impressive.

Bascially, almost any mech that has Heat Scale quirks is going to be better than you expect.

Saalkin
Jun 29, 2008

GREAT RACK



Is the hero Arctic Wolf worth getting?

Pattonesque
Jul 14, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

a downside to the RFL-IIC is that its arm mounts sit farther below the cockpit than one would think, so you have to expose that big dome of a head way before you get to actually fire

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009



Pattonesque posted:

a downside to the RFL-IIC is that its arm mounts sit farther below the cockpit than one would think, so you have to expose that big dome of a head way before you get to actually fire

It can do some goofy junk like dual-gauss on a 40-ton mech, but no, it's real bad. The ACW is an SRM splatform and little else.

Edit: I think the Pakhet is the only clan medium hero that I'd recommend without reservation.

Pattonesque
Jul 14, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Skippy McPants posted:

It can do some goofy junk like dual-gauss on a 40-ton mech, but no, it's real bad. The ACW is an SRM splatform and little else.

Edit: I think the Pakhet is the only clan medium hero that I'd recommend without reservation.

I saw a few people run something like this for a Pakhet and I think it might actually work pretty well?

https://mech.nav-alpha.com/#4c87c773_HMN-PA

TjyvTompa
Jun 1, 2001

im gay

Saalkin posted:

Is the hero Arctic Wolf worth getting?

No.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

There are no men like me. There's only me.





The 4x LPL Rifleman 2 is super fun even though I'm learning positioning again. People seem to always react to eating a poo poo load of laser.

Pattonesque
Jul 14, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Pattonesque posted:

I saw a few people run something like this for a Pakhet and I think it might actually work pretty well?

https://mech.nav-alpha.com/#4c87c773_HMN-PA

Trip report: it's good

you're about 1/3 of an ATM Vapor Eagle and 2/3 of an SRM bomber Huntsman, but the secret is that if you keep between like 140-280m you can fire both and do a shitload of damage. you have a LOT of jump jets so you can get weird angles on people and you can take potshots with the ATMs before brawls start so you don't feel completely useless (AMS will bone you on the ATMs though)

you can also take out a DHS to add lower arm actuators and ammo/sensor poo poo

Pattonesque fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Aug 3, 2020

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008


Might have to try that because playing ATMs without secondary weapons can be a bummer sometimes. The vast majority of the time you don't need them but the few times you do get somebody in your face and no help or way to escape feel really really bad. Also makes IS standard PPCs really iffy for me too even though a 4 PPC Marauder is otherwise really good.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

There are no men like me. There's only me.





Aw man I'd forgotten how fun my AWS-8Q was. Absolutely ruined some light mech days tonight. Turns out heavy PPCs just rip parts off.

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014



TheKingslayer posted:

Aw man I'd forgotten how fun my AWS-8Q was. Absolutely ruined some light mech days tonight. Turns out heavy PPCs just rip parts off.

Yeah, you won't put up huge numbers that often, but I have one-shotted so many lights and light mediums. Even heavies and assaults should fear you, it takes just two shots to open or destroy a component, and sometimes crippling is as good as killing.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008


TheKingslayer posted:

Aw man I'd forgotten how fun my AWS-8Q was. Absolutely ruined some light mech days tonight. Turns out heavy PPCs just rip parts off.

Pinpoint builds can be deceptively effective, it's tough to get your raw damage up but if your aim is good you can make up for it by putting it exactly where it's needed. Personally I'm a big fan of IS heavy PPCs, popping light mechs in one hit is so fun and it absolutely rules on the rare occasions you can get headshots.

Hungry_Need_Brain
Aug 13, 2004

Crip Walker, Texas Ranger


Starkk posted:

Out of the Phase 3 Heros on sale, which would you all suggest to buy? Which would make the best brawler?

Sleipnir
Sleipnir
Sleipnir
Sleipnir
Sleipnir
Sleipnir
Sleipnir
Sleipnir
Sleipnir
Sleipnir

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Starkk
Dec 31, 2008


Hungry_Need_Brain posted:

Sleipnir
Sleipnir
Sleipnir
Sleipnir
Sleipnir
Sleipnir
Sleipnir
Sleipnir
Sleipnir
Sleipnir

That is the one I got and immediately put 4 lbx10s on it.

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