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Zernach posted:God this is making me miss my Firestarter when it was still the prime butt chewing light with its 8 SPL and a few jets to get to places. RIP my brave little robbit, given a lethal synthenol injection to make it the size of a medium.  also miss my 6ll stalker and 3lpl thunderbolt
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I miss my SRM bomber Griffin-3M and my dual-heavy gauss Annihilator and the 6-MPL ECM Phoenix Hawk I got 1500 damage in once
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Pornographic Memory posted:For the Marauder (and any time you're using RACs generally) 3 RAC2s are better than 2 RAC5s IMO because you lose some DPS but have much better sustain in terms of heat and jamming. If you use a Light Fusion Engine instead of a standard you can fit 3 RAC2s, 4 medium lasers, and then a combination of heatsinks and ammo to your taste. Do light engines core you if a side torso gets blown the same way XL engines do? If so, wouldn't that be a pretty bad idea on a brawler that needs to keep their torso staring straight at the enemy for a pretty long time? e; vv thanks! Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Jan 4, 2020 |
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light engines kill you if both side torsos are destroyed (like Clan XLs), which usually isn't a problem because you're unlikely to have significant weapons in the CT or head
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Plek posted:The best was the artemis-ageddon that had missiles flying up very high, then diving straight down onto the target's head. I think this also happened in closed beta before artemis was in and just affected all lrms. It was even funnier then because the Atlas head hitbox was the whole face and not just the eye hole
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This was the real Lurmpocalypse It never made it off of public test
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Do you mean Lurmpocalypse I, II, or III or the Festival of Artemis I or II? (if I recall correctly)  I can't believe we slogged through all this dumb poo poo to have the game just get worse and worse, patch over patch.
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Just finished the MW5 campaign, and thought the last parts of it are considerably better than the stuff at the beginning, mainly because I didn't have to grind between missions anymore. Also found my favorite mech: the Mauler 1R, with burst fire AC2s, 2 large lasers, and SRM. And double heat sinks. That thing will just chew and chew and chew everything apart from 800 meters away. And you can dakka for days.
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The end of the campaign is far better than the start, for sure. It feels pretty close to what I wanted out of a Mechwarrior game, or is at least closer than the beginning. Wonder what happened in development for things to be so different.
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aniviron posted:The end of the campaign is far better than the start, for sure. It feels pretty close to what I wanted out of a Mechwarrior game, or is at least closer than the beginning. Wonder what happened in development for things to be so different. I have a good idea what happened, because this is something I do as a writer all the time. It feels exactly like a story where the ending was written first. They knew where they wanted to start, and had the last act firmly in their mind, but had a big cloud of ???s between those two points that they struggled a bit with.
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Drewjitsu posted:Do you mean Lurmpocalypse I, II, or III or the Festival of Artemis I or II? (if I recall correctly)  https://www.timetoast.com/timelines/the-history-of-internet-stompy-robots https://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/entry/250736/Mechwarrior-Online-Mismanaging-Expectations/ https://player.vimeo.com/video/49383855 Bentai fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Jan 5, 2020 |
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Gothsheep posted:I have a good idea what happened, because this is something I do as a writer all the time. It's not just the narrative, the ending levels are loads better too though. Maps that were clearly made by humans with some degree of care, which are interesting challenges, pretty, etc. The beginning largely lacks those with the exception of the refinery mission, imo.
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Bentai posted:At least we can still remember the "good" old days: What a nostalgia trip, thanks for that! 
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Any time lrms were considered good were called a lurmpocalypse, because lrms have always been hated on. lrms are the only weapon type not allowed to be good.
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Freakazoid_ posted:Any time lrms were considered good were called a lurmpocalypse, because lrms have always been hated on. lrms are the only weapon type not allowed to be good. Lrms are the worst type of weapon in a multiplayer game, because they encourage non dynamic, static gameplay, where inaction is rewarded.
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Drewjitsu posted:Lrms are the worst type of weapon in a multiplayer game, because they encourage non dynamic, static gameplay, where inaction is rewarded. Worse, with sensor sharing and TAG/NARC it let's lurm players blame everyone else for them not being successful.
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aniviron posted:It's not just the narrative, the ending levels are loads better too though. Maps that were clearly made by humans with some degree of care, which are interesting challenges, pretty, etc. The beginning largely lacks those with the exception of the refinery mission, imo. aniviron posted:The end of the campaign is far better than the start, for sure. It feels pretty close to what I wanted out of a Mechwarrior game, or is at least closer than the beginning. Wonder what happened in development for things to be so different. Gothsheep posted:I have a good idea what happened, because this is something I do as a writer all the time. I think it's not just the big "???" between the major plot points. I think they ran out of money/time when fleshing out the campaign, and had to ship it in an MVP-state (  ). The last levels are the only ones that really look handcrafted, and they're gorgeous by comparison. They're also almost the only missions with any sort of cutscene before them, or have unique art assets that don't come from the same pool the random mission generator uses.By comparison, the entire rest of the game looks unfinished. The repair bay / interact with environment mechanics? You'll use it once/thrice in the entire campaign. The people on the ship? They're static the entire time. Their lips don't even move while talking! You can't talk to or interact with anything aboard the Leopard. The clothes in your personal room aren't actually textured. There are a number of very basic mission types for the randomized missions. The only way in which the handcrafted missions differ is that they have different flavor text, and perhaps a better laid out map. Still, you'll come across raid missions where the Leopard drops you right atop of a mission target, and conveniently kills it for you. The entire galaxy map is without flavor text. There is no indication that some larger story is unfolding in the galaxy: the Capellan confederation just suddenly shrinks, out of the blue there comes a Federated Commonwealth, and so forth. The game clearly has the skeleton made to tell a grand story of interstellar drama and let the player lose themselves in it, but it sadly remains a skeleton. By contrast, the core gameplay elements are very good: the mech gameplay is very nice althogh the lance AI is regrettably shallow; the progression through the ranks correlates nicely with the timeline (I ended the campaign around the Clan Invasion, nice!), the economy is balanced just punishing enough to make you think about your mech, loadout, and repair/travel choices, the mechlab and mech variants feel thought through (even though I, too, had wished for a little bit more customization, but that's a justifiable design choice). It's just such a startling contrast in quality between the core components and everything that adds flavor and context. Is it necessary for the core gameplay loop? It's working nicely and thought out. Is it something that enhances the gamplay loop and adds flavor? It's missing or only there in name. PGI have pushed out another MVP, just as with MWO. Man, it really bothers me to think what the game could have been with a couple of months of additional work. Lord Stimperor fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Jan 5, 2020 |
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Oh hey folks, there’s a mod over on mod nexus that basically fixes mechwarrior 5. 11kb .pak file that makes all ground units part of lances and makes them only deploy from drop ships. The fact that this is a mod and not an official patch is pretty damning for the development team. Game is infinitely better though easier. I’ve adapted by just taking harder missions. *Edit - This one : https://www.nexusmods.com/mechwarrior5mercenaries/mods/7 Abongination fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Jan 6, 2020 |
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Honestly, I'm okay with not being able to change armour or structure types or whatever. It would be nice to be able to swap engines out at least, but I won't lose sleep over that either. What really gets me is the weapon slot size system. I wish they'd just let you put two mediums in a large slot, or two smalls in a medium slot.
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Lord Stimperor posted:It's just such a startling contrast in quality between the core components and everything that adds flavor and context. Is it necessary for the core gameplay loop? It's working nicely and thought out. Is it something that enhances the gamplay loop and adds flavor? It's missing or only there in name. PGI have pushed out another MVP, just as with MWO. Man, it really bothers me to think what the game could have been with a couple of months of additional work. I had a feeling PGI would do the same as MWO from the word go. And based on my time with MWO I don't know if they're ever going to fix it up  (what's MVP stand for in this context, I only know most valuable X)
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Minimum viable product.
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Ciaphas posted:I had a feeling PGI would do the same as MWO from the word go. And based on my time with MWO I don't know if they're ever going to fix it up Mvp: a complete product that matches all the star citizen backer demands. No really. It shows up a lot in the star citizen threads to describe the product that can be sold without defrauding anyone or incuring (in that case further) legal actions.
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Ciaphas posted:I had a feeling PGI would do the same as MWO from the word go. And based on my time with MWO I don't know if they're ever going to fix it up I think MWO is in a good place now, it took them a very long time to get there though.
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Lord Stimperor posted:I think it's not just the big "???" between the major plot points. I think they ran out of money/time when fleshing out the campaign, and had to ship it in an MVP-state ( These are for sure all good points, but I suspect that rather than minimum viable malice, it comes down to the fact that PGI has only really made one game (the old shovelware titles that Russ, Paul & Bryan were involved in don't count) and then it turns out that all the aspects of game design that aren't relevant to MWO kinda suck, and everything that covers fields where they know what they're doing are pretty okay.
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Patrat posted:Some years ago, overheating did not inflict any internal damage and I actually exploited this kind of thing with a six PPC Stalker. Basically I would climb to a ridgeline then fire twice into the CT of an approaching heavy mech, this could allow the destruction of a pristine Cataphract or something in literally four seconds. Then I would turbo overheat and my shut down mech would slide back down the slope out of sight after falling asleep. When it eventually woke back up this process could be repeated. I still have a 4 erppc cicada kicking around somewhere in my garage based on this video lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgUzhO1TiAc
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For all that PGI are still , hopping into a heavy and brawling in MWO is still really fun in short bursts.
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I'm having a ton of fun with MW5, despite its flagrant failings It's just plain fun in the purest six-year-old sense to play big stompy robots, especially on Demolition missions. Lasers, giant guns, missiles, just plain walking through buildings... 
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Yeah, it's repetitive and shallow, but getting to paint and play with my
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So I’m using that better spawns mod that forces waves to come in lances from a drop ship. It was really good until it started dropping vehicles through the ground into the void and defense missions keep getting stuck at 24/30 etc.
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Any tips on that late game missions where you attack the old SLDF spaceport? I just take too much damage from the gauntlet and then that piece of poo poo in the Annihilator just aimbots my mech's core 
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Purr Objectives posted:Any tips on that late game missions where you attack the old SLDF spaceport? I just take too much damage from the gauntlet and then that piece of poo poo in the Annihilator just aimbots my mech's core I got through that one driving an Altas D w/ a gauss, lance in an RS and two banshees. moved slow, made sure i didnt get ahead of the lancemates, I think there was at least one kintaro that popped up just before you pass the dropship, they were priority targets. When the Annihilator dropped, made damned sure to shoot its big pointy head off with the gauss before doing anything else.
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One thing this game needs is an “attack vehicles” command for lance mates so I don’t have to micro them onto every J.Edgar Just hit that button and let them clear out helicopters and the like
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The terrain in mechwarrior 5 bugs me to no end. They 100% used assets made for human scale and it really shows. Like, a blade of grass is as wide as a tanks cannon.
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:The terrain in mechwarrior 5 bugs me to no end. They 100% used assets made for human scale and it really shows. Like, a blade of grass is as wide as a tanks cannon. I really hate the RNG terrain when it turns out to be very grid based
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Purr Objectives posted:Any tips on that late game missions where you attack the old SLDF spaceport? I just take too much damage from the gauntlet and then that piece of poo poo in the Annihilator just aimbots my mech's core I beat it by being super cheap. I noticed the pilot had great Protagonist Sense, and hyper-focused on me while ignoring my lance. So I hid behind a large building and played Extreme keepaway, keeping the ruined building between us while the rest of my team picked him apart.
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Alright I want to limit how much I have to grind to get cool mechs and guns in MW5. How do I get money and equipment as fast as possible? Any good tips in general?
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Pick a faction and grind rep with them until you max out the Rep bar. Even better if you can pull it off without tanking your rep with one of the other Great Houses.
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I had extremely high Davion rep pretty early in the game by just doing the first few story missions and the high priority missions there. Multi mission contracts are great once you have a couple of extra mechs because of the 25% extra money and 50% extra salvage.
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