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Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!
MW4: Mercs is available for free online iirc. With all the mekpaks too.

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Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
Or you can play living legends, a game that still has people playing.

Kylaer
Aug 4, 2007
I'm SURE walking around in a respirator at all times in an (even more) OPEN BIDENing society is definitely not a recipe for disaster and anyone that's not cool with getting harassed by CHUDs are cave dwellers. I've got good brain!

Artificer posted:

MW4: Mercs is available for free online iirc. With all the mekpaks too.

Sounds great, any idea where?

Third World Reagan posted:

Or you can play living legends, a game that still has people playing.

I don't want to play against people who are still playing an old niche game, they're going to be really dedicated and good at it. Is there a singleplayer mode?

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Kylaer posted:

I don't want to play against people who are still playing an old niche game, they're going to be really dedicated and good at it.

You might be confused. No one is good at it.

Kylaer posted:

Is there a singleplayer mode?

No. But multiplayer is singleplayer if you don't work with other people.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

Kylaer posted:

Sounds great, any idea where?
https://www.moddb.com/games/mechwarrior-4-mercenaries/downloads/mw4-mercs-mektek

Kylaer
Aug 4, 2007
I'm SURE walking around in a respirator at all times in an (even more) OPEN BIDENing society is definitely not a recipe for disaster and anyone that's not cool with getting harassed by CHUDs are cave dwellers. I've got good brain!

Much appreciated! Unfortunately it crashes when I try to run it, saying it isn't compatible with my hardware or drivers. I guess that's the issue of trying to run a ~20-year-old game. I'll probably look into Living Legends, thanks for the recommendation there also.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!

Kylaer posted:

Much appreciated! Unfortunately it crashes when I try to run it, saying it isn't compatible with my hardware or drivers. I guess that's the issue of trying to run a ~20-year-old game. I'll probably look into Living Legends, thanks for the recommendation there also.

Check this out. https://www.reddit.com/r/mechwarrior/comments/7y3twy/how_to_run_all_mechwarrior_4_games_on_windows_10/

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

Kylaer posted:

Much appreciated! Unfortunately it crashes when I try to run it, saying it isn't compatible with my hardware or drivers. I guess that's the issue of trying to run a ~20-year-old game. I'll probably look into Living Legends, thanks for the recommendation there also.

LL is multiplayer only, so I don't know I don't think that's what you're looking for. I actually played through MW4:M earlier this year and all I had to do was delete imagehlp1.dll under \Assets\Binaries and it worked without any other fiddling. You might want to try that before going through the more complicated steps Artificer linked.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

So while I've been struggling with playing the Dervish I'm having tons of fun with the Spirit Bear. I play the Atlas a lot and being that much faster really seems worth the armor trade, a lot of players don't seem ready for how fast you can round a corner on them

TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009

how have you been skilling it out? Armor? Mobility? I haven't touched it in a long time. And what sort of build?

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
Man the SB used to be so good before the mobility nerf

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

TheParadigm posted:

how have you been skilling it out? Armor? Mobility? I haven't touched it in a long time. And what sort of build?

The SB? LB20, 4x SRM6, standard brawler offense skills and the armor side of survivability. I also wanna say I'm using a 400 engine. Hitting 84 kph with MASC is delightful.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!
Playing the SB post agility nerf is agony. All I think about is what it was...

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

I got in the game after the agility nerfs so now I just get off on chumping missile boats that didn't think I could cross the distance.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

TheKingslayer posted:

I got in the game after the agility nerfs so now I just get off on chumping missile boats that didn't think I could cross the distance.

dude it was so good, it was a playstyle (assault MASC brawler) that really only existed with one of the Executioners. You had similar firepower to an Atlas but much less armor, but you were so agile that you could really make it last if you were on the ball

the best part was that it wasn't overpowered, just legitimately good with a high degree of difficulty. so of course PGI killed it

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

Pattonesque posted:

dude it was so good, it was a playstyle (assault MASC brawler) that really only existed with one of the Executioners. You had similar firepower to an Atlas but much less armor, but you were so agile that you could really make it last if you were on the ball

the best part was that it wasn't overpowered, just legitimately good with a high degree of difficulty. so of course PGI killed it

The EXE-C and EXE-D used to be my favourite and second favourite mechs, respectively. Loaded one with MPLs and SPLs, the other with a UAC20 and six ER SLs. Nothing else could compare for fun. Sure, you had a huge flat front profile that was all CT, sure, the arms didn't shield, and yes, if you did lose and arm your mech had the firepower of a light mech. But being able to go that fast, to be that agile, ohhh it was sweet. It demanded a lot to play- a single fuckup managing MASC or JJs and you were loving dead.

It wasn't enough to ruin the small lasers though, then they had to weld the coffin shut by crippling its MASC and every single agility stat. Ugh.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

aniviron posted:

The EXE-C and EXE-D used to be my favourite and second favourite mechs, respectively. Loaded one with MPLs and SPLs, the other with a UAC20 and six ER SLs. Nothing else could compare for fun. Sure, you had a huge flat front profile that was all CT, sure, the arms didn't shield, and yes, if you did lose and arm your mech had the firepower of a light mech. But being able to go that fast, to be that agile, ohhh it was sweet. It demanded a lot to play- a single fuckup managing MASC or JJs and you were loving dead.

It wasn't enough to ruin the small lasers though, then they had to weld the coffin shut by crippling its MASC and every single agility stat. Ugh.

Really where they hosed up was making fewer playstyles viable. It’s hard enough doing poo poo like MASCecutioner builds without their screwing with the fundamentals

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Pattonesque posted:

Really where they hosed up was making fewer playstyles viable. It’s hard enough doing poo poo like MASCecutioner builds without their screwing with the fundamentals

This is something I've been lamenting. I've been looking for more mechs that have weird playstyles but they seem to either be gimmicks or outright bad.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

TheKingslayer posted:

This is something I've been lamenting. I've been looking for more mechs that have weird playstyles but they seem to either be gimmicks or outright bad.

OK here’s a fun one:

https://mech.nav-alpha.com/#4c87c773_HMN-PA

you poptart with fast firing ATMs at range, and then you SHORT-RANGE poptart with both ATMs and SRMs below 270m

Shockingly good

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Pattonesque posted:

OK here’s a fun one:

https://mech.nav-alpha.com/#4c87c773_HMN-PA

you poptart with fast firing ATMs at range, and then you SHORT-RANGE poptart with both ATMs and SRMs below 270m

Shockingly good

I do dig this a lot, reminds me of the Shadowcat I like. Since we're talking about missiles, are there any mechs worth a poo poo that use streaks?

Kylaer
Aug 4, 2007
I'm SURE walking around in a respirator at all times in an (even more) OPEN BIDENing society is definitely not a recipe for disaster and anyone that's not cool with getting harassed by CHUDs are cave dwellers. I've got good brain!

Mordja posted:

I actually played through MW4:M earlier this year and all I had to do was delete imagehlp1.dll under \Assets\Binaries and it worked without any other fiddling. You might want to try that before going through the more complicated steps Artificer linked.

This worked, thank you very much!

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

I haven't played that particular Huntsman but SRM poptarting can be fun. I used to run a quad SRM6 Kitfox with JJs and poptart it, worked way better than it had any right to do. I still run an Summoner D with five SRM6 for a more realistic approach to the same style.

TheKingslayer posted:

I do dig this a lot, reminds me of the Shadowcat I like. Since we're talking about missiles, are there any mechs worth a poo poo that use streaks?

Not really. You can swap out the SRMs for streaks on almost any clan mech that does SRMs and goes 81+ (Stormcrow, Summoner, Mad Dog, etc) and it will be okay but worse than regular SRMs. You will get bigger damage numbers but be much slower to kill against everything except light mechs.

Willfrey
Jul 20, 2007

Why don't the poors simply buy more money?
Fun Shoe

TheKingslayer posted:

I do dig this a lot, reminds me of the Shadowcat I like. Since we're talking about missiles, are there any mechs worth a poo poo that use streaks?

I think streaks themselves are not great in my opinion. Damage gets spread everywhere, uses more tonnage, ECM is pretty common and will neuter your lock-dependant mech. Unless i'm in a light mech I never feel threatened by streaks. stick to regular SRM's

TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009

TheKingslayer posted:

I do dig this a lot, reminds me of the Shadowcat I like. Since we're talking about missiles, are there any mechs worth a poo poo that use streaks?

You can do a 3-4(depending on cm) streak 6 shadowcat, and its okay for like, scouting or ambushes. Playstyle's fairly similiar to the atm shadowcat; you basically protect your fatties and just gun for any lights you see.

remember that streak 4/6 are penalized heatwise after 3, but not by a huge amount. (https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/equipment#weapon_heatscale )

Srm's are +1 on the group before ghost heat and you can just dump out 4 constantly.


But yeah, its mostly about the alpha and thats why its ghost heated as it is.
They also have a slower fire rate compared to regular srms and will still get chumped by ecm.

You can make them work but it an uphill battle.

How Disgusting
Feb 21, 2018
The first missile fired in a group will always go for CT, so if you chainfire 2 groups of streaks and add a tag to one of them, you can get more consistent damage.

TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009

now's a good time to post your wishlish of 'fix the game dummies'. its been split up , but now there's hardly any responses. Great time to get in on the ground floor.

https://mwomercs.com/forums/forum/102-command-chair/

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

I've had a Gridiron a while and I'm playing around with builds and nothing feels quite right. I can't seem to strike the balance with the ballistics and other weapons.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

TheKingslayer posted:

I've had a Gridiron a while and I'm playing around with builds and nothing feels quite right. I can't seem to strike the balance with the ballistics and other weapons.

The Grid Iron used to have a niche as the fastest-firing gauss platform in the game. It was kind of like it had one-and-a-half gauss rifles

It still fires p. fast but it's not what it used to be, and you can really only fit MLs/MPLs as backup weapons, and two of those will be in the low-slung arms so it doesn't really work with the peeking playstyle it requires

so you can do some work with the gauss at range, but there's kind of a hard cap on how effective it'll be. you basically have to always hit the component you're shooting at

TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009

TheKingslayer posted:

I've had a Gridiron a while and I'm playing around with builds and nothing feels quite right. I can't seem to strike the balance with the ballistics and other weapons.

You can do double UAC5 on it actually!

Marx Headroom
May 10, 2007

AT LAST! A show with nonono commercials!
Fallen Rib
Oh man that 6 MPL Linebacker is fun. Locust turned a corner, saw I only had one leg left, and ran full throttle straight into all the lasers. That little fucker was going so fast his explosion flew past my head.

novaSphere
Jan 25, 2003

https://www.enadglobal7.com/press/121645C48E654694/

quote:

INSIDE INFORMATION: Enad Global 7 AB (publ) (“EG7” or the “Company”) has today entered into an agreement with the shareholders of Canadian game developer Piranha Games Inc. (“Piranha Games”) to acquire 100 percent of Piranha Games (the “Transaction”) for an aggregate purchase price of approximately CAD 31.4 million, equivalent of SEK 207 million, on a cash- and debt- free basis (the "Purchase Price"). The Purchase Price paid in cash and in newly issued EG7 shares. Piranha Games is one of Canada’s oldest independent game developers and is most famous for the latest entries into the MechWarrior franchise. Through the acquisition, EG7 gains a reputable team of 65 people in the studio in Vancouver, Canada. For the 12-month period ending on 30 September 2020, Piranha Games generated net sales of approximately CAD 22.7 million, equivalent of SEK 150 million, and EBITDA of approximately CAD 8.6 million, equivalent of SEK 56 million. The EBITDA-multiple on the Purchase Price therefore amounts to 3.7x EBITDA.

Wonder what this means for the future of the company and MWO

Marx Headroom
May 10, 2007

AT LAST! A show with nonono commercials!
Fallen Rib
Seems like a lot of companies are consolidating real fuckin fast lately (I know someone who works at a tech company that was acquired, and then a week later the acquiring company was acquired by a bigger one) so hopefully that isn't a bad sign. Hasn't Piranha been profitable?

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
huh, I wonder if that's partially why they seem to be reinvesting in MWO?

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener
I struggle to believe there is much more money to drained from mwo.

I'm only playing because I bought a founder pack & have all the accumulated goodies... If I had to start from scratch I don't think I'd bother.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Trainee PornStar posted:

I struggle to believe there is much more money to drained from mwo.

I'm only playing because I bought a founder pack & have all the accumulated goodies... If I had to start from scratch I don't think I'd bother.

here's what I figure they could be planning, all dropping at the same time:

1. huge revamp of matchmaking -- QP matches that feed into CW, Solaris free-for-all, etc.
2. new content -- maps, mechs, tech
3. monthly subscription

now they won't be able to pull it off but that might be their thought process, idk

novaSphere
Jan 25, 2003

Also didn't :pgi: get a lump sum in advance for MW5 exclusivity on EGS? They haven't even made it to a Steam launch so I wonder if they were strapped for cash or if this Swedish group really just wants to try and compete with Paradox or something

Or both

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

Cynically, the latest push could have been a move to convince the buyers that the game is still alive to pump up the sales price. Optimistically, the new company wants to give them money to try and revive the game, and this was the first step of it. Could be either, time will tell.

Vomitorium
Oct 2, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
I log in, do one quick battle, think that was pretty fun but as im looking at LOADING and that thing spinning around.. knowing after this loading I then have to get the queue and wait

its not even the waiting, im finding games all the time now. its just the meaninglessness of the little fights. like Mordhau at least im getting better and it really effects gameplay but with MWO half the matches my team is just stupid and dont go to the circle first or something and its all just wasted time

combat is good. comms is good. community is good. its all good. game just isn't long enough to warrant all the loving about for the pew pew

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
I'm extremely cynical, but it's hard to tell if it's just pgi grifting themselves at every opportunity until the buyers dry up, or if they got swept up by the direction the market is going in. It's probably both.

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Marx Headroom
May 10, 2007

AT LAST! A show with nonono commercials!
Fallen Rib
There's a weekend event going on if anyone wants a "Battle of Turkayidd" airhorn

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