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Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011
2021 edit 2: So at the time of this edit, Smurfy is down. I edited in nav.alpha links for the Grimmechs STD 250 build and my LE 285 build that I stole from Crazyeyes24.

2021 edit: I updated the suggested skill tree a bit. I removed a cooldown and range node from Weapons and added two points of Heat Containment. I have no idea if it's an optimal tree but it's not garbage. The STD 250 build is currently ranked S tier on GrimMechs but I'm still running the LE 285.

Edit: I'm going to repost my Crab build because I have fun playing it.

Alright, I have no idea how good it actually is, or if it has a decent place in the current meta, but I've been running a Crab 27B to good effect[1]. If you like cheap builds, spewing out lots of pulse lasers, surviving tons of damage, and clacking your claws menacingly at teammates[2] this one might do the trick.

I first found the Crab because it was on sale. That, and I was looking for a medium mech that was up to date. I had fond memories of playing a Centurion 9-A, the nearly unkillable brawler that could keep fighting without 3/4 of its limbs. I was sad to hear that after four years of being away, the 9A was no longer the beast it had been. I only had a Raven 3L, Catapult A1 and K2, and Atlas D-DC on my account so I must have sold the 9A beforehand. :shrug:

In any case, the Crab has turned out to be a fun and tough little mech for me. The low price tag was a bonus (~5.7 million for a complete build without it being on sale and not counting skills). There are two different versions of the Medium Pulse Laser build that I went through. The main difference is the engine and AMS. Both versions run a little hot, but are perfectly playable even without a skill tree or consumables. There are probably many ways to tweak the builds (light engine instead of an XL perhaps, armor balancing) and skill tree since I'm sure they are not optimized.

STD 250 WORKING BUILD LINK HERE: This build uses the stock engine. Doing so saves a huge chunk of c-bills at the cost of a slightly lower top speed and a single less heatsink. It's also quite a bit tankier.
XL 300: This build uses an XL 300 because I had a spare. The higher speed and ability to run AMS are quite useful and my survivability does not seem to have dropped by much. Admittedly, I'm still working off four years of rust and I generally die fairly quickly no matter what. An XL 305 would also work at the cost of losing AMS. However, either engine nearly doubles the cost of the ENTIRE build.
Edit 3-21-2018: I do not recommend the XL 300 anymore. Instead, I suggest using the LE 285 posted by Crazyeyes24 below.
Edit 4-5-2021: New link for the LE 285 build.

Skill tree - Image of skill tree: Get the 15 points in Mech Operations ASAP. After that, fill out Armor Structure and Weapons.

I've found that playing this build as an assassin works the best. 81-97 KPH means you can move fairly quickly and flank around to shoot butts. If the target turns around before you managed to core them, you're probably capable of brawling with them if needed. You can survive a good amount of damage but that doesn't mean you should be engaging in straight-up fights all the time. For teamfights, just remember to think like a crab. To be like a crab. Scuttle sideways around the edges and swoop in to pinch toes.

aniviron posted:

I have been an evangelist for the CRB-27B for years, it's great. Pretty much all I take to IS scouting. I run something very very close to your STD250 build and it's quite good. You won't always end up with the highest damage numbers but you can concentrate the damage very well thanks to the very short burn duration. The one thing I would add to your story is that the you know a dangerous enemy immediately by whether or not they target your legs. If they go for your buttery crab legs back off immediately and come at them a different way when you have the opportunity. Everyone else is going to spread their damage all over your upper body and they are not nearly as much of a threat as people who actually know what to do against a Crab.

I'm not sure if I would recommend this as a starter mech, but I enjoy playing it and it seems somewhat forgiving.

1. A total fluke of a game where people ignored the Crab scooting around and shooting them.
2. Press the / key to open your claws. Press again to close them. There are little lights in your cockpit that are green when the claws are open and red when they are closed. Keep them closed most of the time.

Skippy McPants posted:

  • Throttle Decay - turn it on, leave it on, get used to it. Turning off throttle decay inflicts a noticeable penalty on a mech’s handling. For more details, read this article.

Shoot, I thought it was supposed to be disabled. I'll flip it back on.

Polka_Rapper fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Apr 6, 2021

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Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Skippy McPants posted:

The old OP recommended disabling it, probably due to pilot preference. Some people like it, others don't. Personally, I'm not fond of it but there's no question that turning it off handicaps a mech's accel/decel so it goes on and stays on so far as I'm concerned.

Edit: Also, if you love me, you'll edit that quote to fix the and/a typo. I'm still filtering through the OP to fix all my mistakes and seeing one enshrined forever on the first page will eat away at my immortal soul.

I got rid of that and also edited my Crab post in.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Skippy McPants posted:

It hasn't worked the last couple of days. I'm assuming it'll get fixed so I went ahead with doing up all the skill trees because mwoSkill is the best skill tree planner around. If it stays dead I'll switch everything over to one of the others at some point.

I was having problems but I thought it was browser related since I opened the skill trees on a different computer. Anyway, I had previously saved my Crab tree as an image so I'll be editing that into the post.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

It's more like this one.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

free hubcaps posted:

they should release a new mech that has the pilot controlling the torso with a trackball mouse instead of a stick

please no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR4eLqdIIWQ

it still hurts to this very day

seeing a reminder in the cockpit would be too much pain

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Yardbomb posted:

How do I fix up a Stormcrow thread? I've got a SCR-A but his current setup is just a dumb thing I've gotten tired of.

Also I made that MAD-IIC from the OP as well and have had a good time with it so far, hadn't played with pure laser and pulse too much until this point.

What do you currently have on the Stormcrow?

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011
Enjoy some space rage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAfi2bZ5Bxw

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Crazyeyes24 posted:

I spent close to 700k refitting my mad dog to use plain SRMs in order to earn 500k.

It's me, I'm the pubbie.

It was about 1.7 million to refit my Summoner because I got new omnipods and had to buy SRMs + ammo. I'll get 1.5 million from the challenges and probably 500k or so from the matches.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Devorum posted:

What are people putting on K-9? I put a RAC/5 and lots of ammo on it...and it performs okay, and is fun, but I'm sure there's something better.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=548&l=c5a12c527a73f14942eee2a7e27012099f5113f5

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Rysithusiku posted:

e: being untargetable is also fantastic against all terrible players who won't shoot anything without a red triangle. I call it the Pubbie Shield.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbNr9181PyU

Pubbie Shield fails against alert Noble Bird Warrior, Frozen City 3053 (Colorized, 60 FPS)

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Marathanes posted:

Badlas still works.



PS: Don't play a Badlas. Or do. Whatever. I'm not your real ghost dad anyways. If anything it makes pubbies REAL mad.

Why is all that ammo in the arms? WHY?


aniviron posted:

The best part is that all the people new to the SNS don't know it's terrible at close range because of its poor mobility and complete lack of quirks, so they close distance and then you rip off their pedipalps and chelicerae.

I actually stuck some LRMs and a LB-10-X on it because I kept dying in my triple UAC/5 build.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Captain Gordon posted:

back when hilarious All-Kerensky squads were a thing

Man, not only did I forget the password to my Kerensky account, I also managed to lock myself out of the email account I used to sign up for it. RIP Harry Potter Kerensky.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Rysithusiku posted:

This may be the most wrong thing I've ever heard.
It is a joke right?
Haha funny joke!






Seriously, you are joking right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN_OM4kK9mk

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffxa2KeP-iY

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

TjyvTompa posted:

The last code went to Swoletariat for being part of the murderlance. Congratulations! No code for Polka who had lrms on his mech! Shamefur dispray.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with my LRM Sun Spider.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Crazyeyes24 posted:

All this poo poo is 40% off: (this is just the regular C-Bill mechs, there are a bunch of heroes on sale too)

Picked up an ASN-21 and a second ANH-2A. I already own a BSW-P1, Hellbringer, Summoner, MCII-B, RGH-PH, MLX-G, and UZL-3P.

Anything else I should think about getting?

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Skippy McPants posted:

The IIC-A is the only good Onion, don’t bother with the others.

It's fun. https://streamable.com/frcgp

Runs a bit hot without skills though.


Axetrain posted:

The UltraViolet is on sale, so if you want to pilot the most luxurious mech in the game now's the time to pick it up.

Sorry, I spent my MC on mechbays.

Polka_Rapper fucked around with this message at 20:36 on May 17, 2018

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Bobcats posted:

SDR-5V can fit 12 JJ

ENERGY COOLDOWN: -25.00 %
ENERGY RANGE: 10.00 %
LASER DURATION: -20.00 %

Hmm. Clearly this is the one true build.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

DarkDobe posted:

Ohmygod Rysith pointed me at this but the Shadowcat with ATMs and a Tag is INCREDIBLY fun. Shoot scoot poptart and wear them down. Easily 1K + a game.



MASC + JJs lets you dance out of range of most enemies, and it's pretty easy to stay in that sweet-zone where you're vomiting damage at them with little to no recourse.
I even have success playing the thing in solaris - though your biggest worry there is AC2 loaded King Crabs. Most other mechs can't handle it but the ACs are fast enough to wear you down.

Focus your skills on missiles and range - range lowers your MINIMUM range on ATMs so it's not to be scoffed at.

I was just going to ask for a Shadow Cat ATM build. I picked up a SNV-A, MDD-H, and SHC-H while they were on sale and I'm planning to cram ATMs into all of them.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011
I never even bothered trying the new mode.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011
Hunchbunch sadly falls on a family member's birthday. I'm still going to see if I can have something ready just in case.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011
It turns out I don't even have a Hunchback. Whoops!

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Pornographic Memory posted:

trying to solo FP as davion is :whitewater:

Managed to get all five of the first day in a single match that I started 1 hour before the challenges expired. :smug:

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Trainee PornStar posted:

Seems like a good enough reason to give it another try :)

I got seven of them done in a couple hours. Not being tied to specific mechs or weapons makes them easy and relaxing to get.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011
I spent all my free MC on letters.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o1_e-Jhst8

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Krataar posted:

So I just started playing this game and enjoying it. What are suggestions for if I like brawling, and not dying when brawling. I'm still working on my cadet money and going to get one thing at the end of that to trick out. I've liked the trial shadowcat, TBT, and Timber wolf so far.

The Orion in the OP is a pretty fun brawler that has a amazing punch. Here's a short video I made: https://streamable.com/frcgp

Killer_B posted:

Between the Arctic Wolf, or the Hellspawn rewards, which sucks less?

As an omnimech, the Arctic Wolf is a lot more flexible. I was running it with another noble birdwarrior last night and it was pretty fun and effective as an SRM carrier. I don't know anything about the Hellspawn though.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011
Five kills, 259 damage. :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSmoRneCJ40

Also it's fine to overheat and explode yourself if you get at least two kills while doing so.

edit: YouTube is having some issues. You don't need to pay to watch that video.

Polka_Rapper fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Oct 29, 2018

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy3Rd-T3uvU

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Soup Inspector posted:

Thanks for the tips! Unfortunately I'm somewhat limited in terms of C Bills (14 mil) and mechbays (5, 3 if we include my Stormcrow and Timberwolf). What I'm hoping to avoid is buyer's remorse if it turns out that a mech doesn't gel with me. It sounds like the Bushwhacker might be quite fun, though I'm not sure how it compares to the Hellbringer in the "fun per C Bill" stakes. As I said, I don't really know how to build mechs (I don't want to get the wrong chassis for example), so are there a few example builds like the ballistic ones you talked about I can look at?

A complicating factor is that my buddies are looking to stick with IS mechs when we eventually decide to bumblefuck our way into faction wars like the Keystone Kops we are, so maybe the Bushwhacker might be better?

I'd like to pimp the Crab 27B once again. It's cheap, carries six medium pulse lasers, and is quite tanky for what it is. The mech does run a bit hot even after you skill it out, but it works very well. I have the build for it a couple posts under the OP. Both the Crab and the Bushwacker will serve you very well if you do IS Scouting.

Hellbringer would probably be the best for just straight up making cbills though. Hang back and laser anyone you see. Aiming is easy because it's all in the torsos. The hardest part is holding the beams steady on someone. Twisting is also easier because you're mostly going to do alpha-twist-cover-cooldown on repeat.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Lil Peeler posted:

Also I couldn't sell the thing. Can anyone else? Any recommendations for the Javelin?

Apparently, you can't sell loyalty mechs (you disloyal scum).

For the Javelin, the best loadout is probably 6x MG and 2x MPL. You can run that with the stock engine (I'm cheap so I did that) or put in an XL 255, upgrade to Ferro, strip most of the head armor, and use only three jumpjets. Overall it's hit or miss but I've had a few good games with it.

Javelin JVN-11F(L):

Stock engine: Aa;820P0|6d|PG|PGpD0|KO|i^|c?|c?|gOqD0|KO|i^|i^rD0|0@|0@|0@sD0|0@|0@|0@tL0|PG|PGuL0|PG|PGv@0|KOw808080

XL 255 + Ferro: Aa;920P0|Ed|KO|PGpD0|c?|c?qD0rD0|0@|0@|0@sD0|0@|0@|0@tL0|PGuL0|PGv50|KOw808080

Polka_Rapper fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Nov 21, 2018

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Corn Burst posted:

I always have a good time with my lbx2 Night Gyr. Download Firecontrol for maximum effectiveness.

Example of UAC/2s with Fire Control: https://gfycat.com/DizzyCrispGharial

I have it set to 60ms in that clip, which is instant double taps. For real play, I would personally set it to 120ms and use the fire rate toggle to change between regular chainfire and double taps as needed.

My main problem with it is that I would prefer having a chainfire group and a regular group. As far as I can tell, that's not possible without using a modifier if you have 6+ weapons.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

sebmojo posted:

can someone link the vid of some randos going against goons in frozen city

I only remember these two videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-K1HhvaNNo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w13_uTNW7cc

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Moleboy posted:

Anyone have an opinion on which Champion Mechs are worth taking for the 200 / 250 stocking rewards? I am tempted by the Kodiak, but suspect that is a terrible idea.

That's the mech I picked. I figured that even if I didn't like it, the resale value would be pretty good. The Mauler should be a solid choice as well. There are some other great choices in there if you don't already own the chassis (ON1-IIC-A, WHM-6D, HBR-F would be my top picks) but the XP bonus from a champion mech isn't worth getting a duplicate unless you want to run two different loadouts.

However, the champion mechs tend to come with upgrades and better equipment. The ON1-IIC-A(C) is ready to go right out of the box for example, with only a bit of ammo shuffling.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

EoRaptor posted:

Also, letter decals are on sale for 50% off (90MC). One purchase, unlimited usage. Some colours are also on sale.

Buying letters is 100% the best usage of MC in the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o1_e-Jhst8

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011
The Vapor Eagle should be released for cbills today. I just blew all my spacebucks on a RAC/2 Bushwacker but I certainly plan on grinding for a VGL-A as my next mech. Which engine should I purchase in advance so I can run 1x C-LB20-X and 4x C-SRM 6? This one build that I found uses a XL 295 and seems decent.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Skippy McPants posted:

Clan SRM6s without Artemis is gonna send your damage all over the place. You want an XL 255; it might seem a bit slow but keep in mind the VGL isn't a skirmisher like the ASN. The LBX build is made to stand just behind the main assault line and plop stupid amounts of damage onto anyone in range.

The only way to get a bigger engine in there is to cut the 6s down to 4s, which takes a huge bite out of the alpha damage without adding too much additional speed.

I went to go see what junk I could sell and found that I already had a spare Clan XL 255 somehow. Now I can just focus on getting the mech. Thanks!

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

smooth jazz posted:

It would need to be called something less nerdy than Battletech or Mechwarrior and have nude IS cock and boobs for good measure.

Otherwise the battletech IP sells iteslf.
Come on, sweaty topless men and women "beause of the heat", fighting in giant robots.

"BattleBots: The Next Generation"

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

TjyvTompa posted:

The SB also has MASC. 100 tons of hate coming at you at 84kp/h is pretty pretty cool

Neat, that's about 9 kph faster (in short bursts) than my 55 ton mech that has the same amount of guns!


Skippy McPants posted:

If you want a glass cannon Clan brawler the Scorch, MCII-2, and Boilers all serve the role better.

Yeah, I am going to try and pick up a Scorch or MCII-2 along with a CP-10-Q. My Vapor Eagle is a lot of fun and I kind of want something that slaps on an extra shotgun.

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Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

aniviron posted:

The two extra days were already added, and with about 12h left in the two day extra grace period a fix has not been forthcoming.

Spirit Bear makes me really sad. I would love a MASC Atlas, but looking at those mobility stats I just can't justify that much MC.

They dropped a hotfix and will be adding more events.

https://mwomercs.com/news/2019/05/2287-hotfix-scheduled-for-23may2019

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