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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.


Yer Burnt posted:

This is the best season of Big Brother in a long while, and that all would make better sense to us if you were recapping the live feeds

I could think of it as another wasted HoH, or as getting more time to reshift alliances.

I mean, I'm not watching so I don't know what's REALLY happening but the narrative on that one episode I watched seemed to suggest Omarosa's only real ally was Metta and she went and put him on the block to go home. James and Mark both clearly said "we can't trust her" and Omarosa clearly took a big and public shot at the four person alliance and all four stayed in the house.

That sure seems like a disastrous HOH from my one episode watching perspective. Although it seems like Omarosa might be in position to be a goat. But again, I don't know what's really happening on feeds.

Granted Omarosa had no direct control over that overpowered POV or Brandi self destructing. But she did seem to antagonize Brandi and CO and she could have just not nominated Metta and put up the other two in that four. So it really seems like she came out of that HOH worse for wear.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at Feb 20, 2018 around 19:24

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Wizardryo
Jul 23, 2002

"Finally! A deep throat to call my own!"

I don't have the care to sit through an entire season of civilian Big Brother anymore but the pace of this has been really good and it's great that they cast actual superfans of the show. I'm shocked Brandi is more in her element on this version than in the UK version, where she got paid to sit around and drink wine all day/night and was somehow not at all entertaining.

The future looks bright for multiple seasons; it's done really well against the Olympics and they have a deep, deep well of proven US housemates from the UK version for this format. A little shocked they didn't cast Perez Hilton for this after his ratings-breaking stint on BBUK but I'm assuming they didn't want too much manufactured drama in the first season – the Omarosa rehab has seemed pretty organic but as if everyone's in on it at the same time.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.


Ultimately I think there's just too much unearned arrogance in a Celebrity edition for me. I mean, there's always a fair amount of that in any cast but there's also a lot of "what will you put up with for this opportunity." As far as I can tell the Celebrities got a shortened time, a ton of money, their own beds, no Have Nots, no sequestered Jury, lots of booze, and two of them still quit.

I guess ultimately there's a basic level of torture that draws me to BB. That or it just feels like a cast full of Frankies and Pauls.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.

he knows...


I agree on the torture thing on principle (my favourite BB thing is when they gave half the house cattle prods on one of the older UK seasons) but I really like this season after having sworn off the show a couple years ago.

I think it's a testament to the quality of this season that I often forget they're celebrities while watching it. It very much feels like they managed to find a group of celebs that are mostly fans, and also fit the usual casting choices they'd normally make for a non-celeb season.

Going back to the torture thing, nothing is more torturous on BB than the boredom and isolation, which this season still has. I think we underestimate or forget they have practically nothing to do in there but occasionally have to hold onto a thing for fourteen hours while they shoot honey at you. Even for three weeks that's crushing.

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988





I don't think Metta quit because he's got millions of dollars and didn't want to lower himself to staying in the Big Brother house. He quit because he is bona fide weird, he was literally climbing over the fences and running through the CBS lots. That's probably in part why they cast him, his other shenanigans that don't involve incessantly trying to quit got a lot of positive airtime on the show.

JakeP
Apr 27, 2003


Lipstick Apathy

Fast Luck posted:

I don't think Metta quit because he's got millions of dollars and didn't want to lower himself to staying in the Big Brother house. He quit because he is bona fide weird, he was literally climbing over the fences and running through the CBS lots. That's probably in part why they cast him, his other shenanigans that don't involve incessantly trying to quit got a lot of positive airtime on the show.

Kind of crazy considering that hes a dude that went into the stands during one of his NBA games and punched out a random dude that he thought threw a soda at him (but didn't)

^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

God of Boomin'


STAC Goat posted:

Ultimately I think there's just too much unearned arrogance in a Celebrity edition for me. I mean, there's always a fair amount of that in any cast but there's also a lot of "what will you put up with for this opportunity." As far as I can tell the Celebrities got a shortened time, a ton of money, their own beds, no Have Nots, no sequestered Jury, lots of booze, and two of them still quit.

I guess ultimately there's a basic level of torture that draws me to BB. That or it just feels like a cast full of Frankies and Pauls.

I don't think you're wrong at all, there clearly seems to be a mix of hardcore fans who are in it to play and then a few people they signed up to pad the roster who they imagined would be quick to get cut for the gamers to be there at the end. Of the 4 evictions so far, 2 of them were just people wanting to go home. Shannon getting tossed was great, but it really lost a lot of the drama when it got drug out for a week because of the breast milk.

I don't blame them too much. For a first time trial, there were plenty of bugs to work out, especially with personalities, scheduling and the calendar.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.


Thinking about it more I think maybe part of it is that while I get why a lot of people really like the pace of this season and how it puts the game into FF, I think I'm just the opposite fan. My favorite part of a BB season is those first few weeks when there's a million people and relationships and alliances falling apart and forming every day and they have nothing to do but drive each other crazy. I tend to zone out towards the end when everything speeds up and its down to a half dozen people.

So I get why this is working for people, but I also think I get why it doesn't appeal to me.

But I also admit to a lifelong annoyance/resentment to celebrity/paparazzi culture and I think that's a big part of it.

Fast Luck posted:

I don't think Metta quit because he's got millions of dollars and didn't want to lower himself to staying in the Big Brother house. He quit because he is bona fide weird, he was literally climbing over the fences and running through the CBS lots. That's probably in part why they cast him, his other shenanigans that don't involve incessantly trying to quit got a lot of positive airtime on the show.

I am not knocking Metta. Full disclosure. I am roughly the same age as Metta, I drat near went to the same high school as him, I watched him play ball in Washington Heights and the Bronx (and against my school), even met him in passing a few times (and he was always a cool dude), and he made me a lifelong St. John's fan. So there was a reason I said at the start of this he was the one reason I was even considering watching. He's a bit of a childhood... hero? Way better than me contemporary? I don't know. I just have always been interested in the guy.

Just to be clear, I'm not judging the individuals. Following Artest/Metta's career I get why the BB House might not have been a great place for him and might have been driving him crazy. And as I understanding it Rudy quit because she missed her newborn? I don't think BB is a major obligation and those are drat good reasons to want out. I just think that while I don't feel like they should have a moral obligation to the game/tv show in the big picture, I kinda need a little of that built into my enjoyment. For whatever that says about me.

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Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988





Rudy was bad casting because she was breastfeeding a one-year-old, has been on the reality circuit before, isn't that exiciting, and clearly was only there for the paycheck. She did start to play some before she quit, which was because apparently she wasn't producing as much milk since being in the house. Solid reason to leave if true, it's so the kid can keep eating, but the fact that she had to keep pumping in the house for a baby not yet weaned off breast milk is something that should have been known to casting and should've led them to pick someone else. Dumb.

^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

God of Boomin'


The Kid is a year old, so I'm not sure casting necessarily thought of that.*


*Not a judgement, raise your kid how you want but they really played it up like this was an emergency and while I'm not a Doctor, it just seems strange to me.

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988





It definitely would have come up, since they had to plan for her to use a breast pump and stuff in the house.

JakeP
Apr 27, 2003


Lipstick Apathy

give the kid some gerbers

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BhindiBhaji Boogie
Aug 6, 2013

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.


Well Ross is a confirmed garbage man and the editing team at CBS deserves kudos for exposing him. What kind of monster eats only chicken breasts and hates thighs?

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