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DoctorWhat posted:Summoning Salt is normal he's just extremely formulaic and non-technical I find Summoning Salt videos interesting, but not entertaining. I’ll watch one once and go “cool, neat to see the time drop like that” but they’re just so samey that I usually don’t want to rewatch one.
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Summoning Salt is a good intro to speedrunning, he's definitely the reason I originally got into it. Other creators do better in depth coverage of strats and stuff, but Summoning Salt is still very entertaining to me
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May 27, 2022 23:04
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A lot of speedrunning history videos are 50x"and then the unexpected happened, xXSSJGogeta69Xx got the record by a whopping 3 seconds." Imo if you're doing a record history, find the interesting narrative, and usually, in speedrunning, that's not about a record rivalry, or how much better the new runner is than the old runner. If you're doing a history of a big game, you don't have to list every single world record holder. And, then when you find that interesting narrative, get some primary sources to talk about how it felt.
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May 27, 2022 23:11
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I actually really enjoy his delivery, just deadpan dropping And then 420GokuBlazeIt broke the record, he managed to pull off the double Inverse Sonicclip for the first time without a TAS.
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Dr. Stab posted:A lot of speedrunning history videos are 50x"and then the unexpected happened, xXSSJGogeta69Xx got the record by a whopping 3 seconds." Yeah to me the only real interesting parts are: A) A new skip/discovery/technique causes a route change or dramatically changes the strategy in some way. B) A new runner joins the scene and shakes things up (assuming the person is interesting to hear from or something) C) Occasionally, weird drama around different categories or cheating or something. But it's mostly A.
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May 28, 2022 02:28
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The best videos are technical breakdowns of mature, complicated, demanding runs.
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DoctorWhat posted:Summoning Salt is normal he's just extremely formulaic and non-technical OK, I get that he can be kind of bland.
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Is something wrong with Bismuth? I’ve been enjoying his A button challenge videos.
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pumpinglemma posted:Is something wrong with Bismuth? I’ve been enjoying his A button challenge videos. idk what you mean by that if you mean if he's quality, yeah, hes fuckin great if you mean if hes doing ok personally, he was struggling cause he put an ungodly amount of work on the a button series and the alogrithm straight up didnt give a poo poo for like the first 4 months, so he said he was very discouraged. im glad he hasnt stopped, cause hes like one of the best guys who explains poo poo along with retro gaming explained and such
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May 28, 2022 03:14
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ArfJason posted:idk what you mean by that Well, good on 'em imho
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May 28, 2022 04:25
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Sorry Bismuth, but I'm so sick and tired of the A-Button Challenge that I'm not watching those videos.
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May 28, 2022 04:47
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DoctorWhat posted:You are a fool Perhaps. I like Bismuth, so it isn't his fault.
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if you aren't watching the a button challenge videos you deserve death
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Kchama posted:Sorry Bismuth, but I'm so sick and tired of the A-Button Challenge that I'm not watching those videos.  
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Rescue Toaster posted:Yeah to me the only real interesting parts are: That's why I love something like OneShortEye's King's Quest 6 video so much. Not only does it have lots of weird discoveries, he also talks to the runners to get their reactions to the discoveries.
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heehee posted:if you aren't watching the a button challenge videos you deserve death Better dead than... Uh, Mario-red? I am undone! (And glad someone enjoys The Missing.) Nemo2342 posted:That's why I love something like OneShortEye's King's Quest 6 video so much. Not only does it have lots of weird discoveries, he also talks to the runners to get their reactions to the discoveries. I am no fan of the King's Quest games but his videos on them are extremely entertaining.
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DoctorWhat posted:The best videos are technical breakdowns of mature, complicated, demanding runs. Got any examples of this kind of vid? I would watch the hell out of them
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May 28, 2022 09:23
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I still enjoy Summoning Salt but all his videos being the same schtick for the same couple series with sometimes a lot of the same runners has really reduced their charm for me at this point. Formulaic is a good word for it.
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Just watched the OneShortEye vid. He's criminally underappreciated and makes me want to route or re-route some game in the same way that a Jason Bourne movie makes me want to speed away from the movie theater.Insurrectionist posted:I still enjoy Summoning Salt but all his videos being the same schtick for the same couple series with sometimes a lot of the same runners has really reduced their charm for me at this point. Formulaic is a good word for it. Yeah it feels like there's two primary "speedrunner vid" angles with some overlap: 1: People who consult with the singular runner that did a specific run and go over it with them (i.e. tomatoanus, Bismuth [outside of the A-press project]) 2: People who are connected with a particular game's run scene to pull in multiple people and take a historical perspective (i.e. OneShortEye, SummoningSalt) The downside to angle 2 is that it naturally funnels people into games they are entrenched in, meaning the same names might appear more and more. I mean, consider the alternative: some rando content creator wants to reach out to many strangers to get their input to make a vid about them. That might get less traction or is at least is less likely to be brought to completion. This is compared to asking people they are already associated with and maybe a few strangers. I mean, also, for a historical perspective, you probably need to be in on the community before you know there's an interesting story. SummoningSalt is quite entrenched in Punch Out, so he knew there was a story there. But I'm also easy. I just like speedrun commentary. Has anyone been watching so long that you used to have to download the video files from SDA and put on the secondary audio track? Good poo poo right there.
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Thanks for linking that OneShortEye, I had paid almost no attention to that niche of speedrunning before. But now that I started watching the backlog, I am a again reminded that watching more then one speedrunning history videos per week quickly makes it annoying.
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ArfJason posted:retro gaming explained this channel loving owns btw everyone should binge it https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwRqWnW5ZkVaP_lZF7caZ-g
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Magnetic North posted:But I'm also easy. I just like speedrun commentary. Has anyone been watching so long that you used to have to download the video files from SDA and put on the secondary audio track? Good poo poo right there. i rewatched sternn's 100% dmd dmc1 run recently actually lol
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I think summoningsalt has been trying some new things recently (the timeline is great) and I don't really think it's a bad choice to mostly stick to the same formula that works and got him extremely popular in the first place
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Kchama posted:I am no fan of the King's Quest games but his videos on them are extremely entertaining. Yeah the non-Larry (and even then..) Sierra games can eat my length for lunch but those videos on them all are excellent
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flatluigi posted:I think summoningsalt has been trying some new things recently (the timeline is great) and I don't really think it's a bad choice to mostly stick to the same formula that works and got him extremely popular in the first place I mean I'm still watching him, and I don't think the stuff I want to see would be a good idea for him specifically to pivot to (specifically just more game variety - I imagine a lot of both his inspiration and his resources come from making videos about games that he enjoys running/watching). It doesn't change the fact that it's starting to feel a little samey for me though.
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That absolute mic drop at the end of the Matt Turk video is worth a lot of goodwill as well.
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ngl i skipped all of bismuth's a button vids too cuz i just don't give a poo poo
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Beasteh posted:Got any examples of this kind of vid? I would watch the hell out of them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi7xZ2UdlBw PJ puts a ton of work into his runs and has great commentary Then watch the TAS it is 100% bullshit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41kzK2alfUU
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The other cool thing about Bismuth is that he'll soon be giving a talk on how glitch-hunting and such is basically a science. https://www.bigtechday.com/en/talks#1MaWqPZBTN4P2Z6rxOQ8gC quote:Speedrunning Video Games as a Gateway to Scientific Endeavours
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FirstAidKite posted:I will never press the first letter button Ah, the b button ch...experiment
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site posted:ngl i skipped all of bismuth's a button vids too cuz i just don't give a poo poo i will powerbomb you off the fuckin chrysler building but the one featured in parasite eve
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dirby posted:The other cool thing about Bismuth is that he'll soon be giving a talk on how glitch-hunting and such is basically a science. I'd like to watch that. Do you know if they'll put a recording on youtube or something?
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mandatory lesbian posted:Ah, the b button ch...experiment quote:Ah quote:A
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ArfJason posted:i will powerbomb you off the fuckin chrysler building but the one featured in parasite eve
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DACK FAYDEN posted:it was half an A press, they had it held down from their previous post I thought it might've been "draft strats" in which they stored the post in arbitrary memory to use later in the run
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