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tehk
Mar 10, 2006

[-4] Flaw: Heart Broken - Tehk is extremely lonely. The Gay Empire's ultimate weapon finds it hard to have time for love.

Some of you who are familiar with my twin turbo V8 S2000 are gonna hate me for this, but I will be faster because of it so who gives a poo poo what you think. Just kidding. I am really sad to put the S2000 on hold, but unless you've owned or attempted it you wouldn't understand how much time I was pissing away essentially punching a brick wall expecting it to fall down. I decided to take a different approach and find a car that I could do all the things I love(turbo kits, engines, tubing fabrication, wiring, racing, and wrenching) without having to worry about sinking 12,000 into a NHRA approved 7.50 chromoly chassis and four link and still ending up with a overly tight unibody car with a useless wheelbase. Additionally finding a car I could take apart in a walmart parking lot mid drag week was huge.

I quickly discovered that money goes amazingly far in this game compared to other approaches(stock chassis). You can essentially buy 200X model year prostock car or a brand new top sportsmen cars for ten grand without engines. For another 8 grand you can buy a car so lite a LS swapped honda seems like a bus. That is where I ended up.

Here is my new baby. I love her. She might not be unique but drat if it isn't loving awesome. So what is it? It is a factory roof/quarters/door panels 67' camaro, fully certified chromoly tube chassis built 5 months ago. Strut front end, Aerospace brakes, twin and single chute, wheelie bar, all aluminum tin work, Fits up to 33x16 tire and 15x15 wheels. Most importantly she weighs 2200lbs with a small block and 200lb driver. Changing any engine component or chassis component can be done in minutes rather than hours only with a lift(looking at you S2000 plugs). There is very very little camaro on this car outside of the roof, quarters, and doors. Everything is 1/4 turn fastenered and quick release. It is a dream to work on truly.









My plan is to swap some of my S2000's LS components over to a new 427 Dart LsNext block and perhaps do twin 80mm turbos mounted in the fender wells. First I need to sell a kidney for a pair of 33" tall slicks and 15" wide beadlocks. My tiny 28x10.5w 15x11 wheels look like playthings under the fender


The only goals are 'i wanna go fast' and drag week. Hopefully with the increased ease of repair I can make that happen this year.

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the spyder
Feb 18, 2011


You're going to die. This should be amazing.

Kaptainballistik
Nov 2, 2005

Why ask me ? I cant understand me either!


What about making it also take corners ? 😂😁

mekilljoydammit
Jan 28, 2016

Me have motors that scream to 10,000rpm. Me have more cars than Pick and Pull

Welp, as you point out, will definitely be faster and easier to work on. I'm working on design of a tube chassis RX-7 so believe me, I get the appeal.

glyph
Apr 6, 2006



Soooo, you’ve kept the s2000 as a roller/mothballed project? That’s good news- it sounded before like you’d have to sell it to get this.

Is this the part where you tell what the wheelbase and track of the new ride and and we get to googling cars for donor body panels?

Just think, you could have the fastest tube frame Mazda MPV in the world.

DJ Commie
Feb 29, 2004

Stupid drivers always breaking car, Gronk fix car...


Kaptainballistik posted:

What about making it also take corners ? 😂😁

With that front suspension, I doubt it. I see geometry designed to keep it straight and able to stay down once it wheelies, not much else.

tehk
Mar 10, 2006

[-4] Flaw: Heart Broken - Tehk is extremely lonely. The Gay Empire's ultimate weapon finds it hard to have time for love.

glyph posted:

Soooo, you’ve kept the s2000 as a roller/mothballed project? That’s good news- it sounded before like you’d have to sell it to get this.

Is this the part where you tell what the wheelbase and track of the new ride and and we get to googling cars for donor body panels?

Just think, you could have the fastest tube frame Mazda MPV in the world.

110". Cars so big I had to rent a new 5 car garage. Cant wait to enjoy the new space and take on additional projects. Maybe a diesel Chevy Luv daily. The S2000 is teetering on mothballed, and being sold. Who knows. The chassis is so cut up it would have to goto someone who wanted a drag car, so its probably better to just keep it and reapproach years down the line. Alternatively I would sell it if I could further this project.

I want a unlimited class drag week car and this car has that potential. Can't wait to play with the turbo placement in the current weeks! New 30x40 shop is going to change how I approach this hobby. So much room to do anything I want, including perhaps a dyno.

tehk fucked around with this message at Jan 30, 2018 around 01:28

bennyfactor
Nov 21, 2008


This is cool as all hell. How much was the body? Is it all one unit like a dynacorn thing or a bunch of new-made patch panels like the car in the "Chevelle of Thesus" thread? Is it attached with quick-release fasteners too? Is there a ready-made market for this sort of old-style body on a new racing chassis, or is it fully custom? Sorry for all the questions but I'm just really fuckin' intrigued.

tehk
Mar 10, 2006

[-4] Flaw: Heart Broken - Tehk is extremely lonely. The Gay Empire's ultimate weapon finds it hard to have time for love.

bennyfactor posted:

This is cool as all hell. How much was the body? Is it all one unit like a dynacorn thing or a bunch of new-made patch panels like the car in the "Chevelle of Thesus" thread? Is it attached with quick-release fasteners too? Is there a ready-made market for this sort of old-style body on a new racing chassis, or is it fully custom? Sorry for all the questions but I'm just really fuckin' intrigued.

Because I want to compete in races that call for stock roof and quarters those are old steel and so are the doors. They are however quarter turn fastened to the car which is amazing. The front end is a two piece carbon clip. So you can pull the hood independently. As for the chassis mine is custom but you can buy a crazy welded chassis for like 7-10k from companies like quartermax or Tim McAmis. Really to do a real unibody or real frame drag car now is basically stupid unless you are required to have things like stock firewall.

Love talking about this thing. It isn’t ‘unique’ but it’s functionally amazing. The weight alone is shocking.

Blaise
Sep 10, 2003


I know I already asked you this via text but it bears repeating:

How are the VINs handled for something like this if it is titled? After all, there's not much (any?) original metal on this thing.

I personally think titles make no sense anyway. Sigh.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008




College Slice

I don't think you get a vin or license plates on those cars. I also think they require 4 roads to turn right.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

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Elephanthead posted:

I don't think you get a vin or license plates on those cars. I also think they require 4 roads to turn right.

You can get both, depending on state.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.


If it's still got some original sheetmetal, it might have enough in the right place to retain the original '67 VIN. Otherwise, I guess it's gotta be registered as a kit car or something, if he's not willing to buy an old pile of rust with an intact VIN. Which would be illegal.

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.



Nap Ghost

I agree that the S2000 is really a weird sacreligious project. So if your goal is go fast, this is a better move. Either way it's entertaining reading.

tehk
Mar 10, 2006

[-4] Flaw: Heart Broken - Tehk is extremely lonely. The Gay Empire's ultimate weapon finds it hard to have time for love.

Blaise posted:

I know I already asked you this via text but it bears repeating:

How are the VINs handled for something like this if it is titled? After all, there's not much (any?) original metal on this thing.

I personally think titles make no sense anyway. Sigh.

Find a 67 camaro roller with title and "swap frames" and I mean that in the loosest sense.

Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

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Just imagine I posted the Challenger VIN swap scene from the original Gone In 60 Seconds here.

tehk
Mar 10, 2006

[-4] Flaw: Heart Broken - Tehk is extremely lonely. The Gay Empire's ultimate weapon finds it hard to have time for love.

Considering tons of cars like this have vins I am not too worried. It will be far more camaro than a full dynacorn build or a full fiberglass promod with a vin tag.


Basic plan is to buy a 67-69 and swap the body. Just enough of it. Keep extra pieces(like quarters and roof) for wall kiss repair.

charliemonster42
Sep 14, 2005
VW: Ze Official Kar Ov Ze Sird Reich

tehk posted:

Considering tons of cars like this have vins I am not too worried. It will be far more camaro than a full dynacorn build or a full fiberglass promod with a vin tag.


Basic plan is to buy a 67-69 and swap the body. Just enough of it. Keep extra pieces(like quarters and roof) for wall kiss repair.

Given how hard my brain is working trying to figure out how that trailer would be hitched to the front of that xterra, the only other logical (?) conclusion is that it is hitched to the back of this "road legal" car. And that is both and

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004



Fun Shoe

Well, it's not like that thing'll have any lack of torque to get it moving...

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012

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Drag week cars can't have a support vehicle, but can tow a trailer. They also have to drive from track to track on public roads, thus they must be fully road legal (lights and everything) and registered with plates. So yes, its full on .

slurry_curry
Nov 26, 2003
<3mini-moni+animu^_^



Elmnt80 posted:

Drag week cars can't have a support vehicle, but can tow a trailer. They also have to drive from track to track on public roads, thus they must be fully road legal (lights and everything) and registered with plates. So yes, its full on .

I was never really interested in drag racing until I heard about drag week. Now I want to build a drag car just to compete. Sadly I am in the opposite end of the country and lack the time/money.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.



Pillbug

slurry_curry posted:

I was never really interested in drag racing until I heard about drag week. Now I want to build a drag car just to compete. Sadly I am in the opposite end of the country and lack the time/money.

Hot Rod also puts on Drag Weekend, which is an abbreviated version of Drag Week. AZ/CA though so it doesn't solve all your problems.

There were rumblings that a Drag Weekend East would happen sometime, but no news.

I think the Zip Tie Drags were either supposed to partially or completely replace Drag Weekend as well. Not as west coast: OH, TN, IL, AZ.

tehk
Mar 10, 2006

[-4] Flaw: Heart Broken - Tehk is extremely lonely. The Gay Empire's ultimate weapon finds it hard to have time for love.

Seat Safety Switch posted:

Hot Rod also puts on Drag Weekend, which is an abbreviated version of Drag Week. AZ/CA though so it doesn't solve all your problems.

There were rumblings that a Drag Weekend East would happen sometime, but no news.

I think the Zip Tie Drags were either supposed to partially or completely replace Drag Weekend as well. Not as west coast: OH, TN, IL, AZ.

Rocky Mountain Drag week is in the West this year, and Drag Week proper is around Atlanta this year. So its a great year for those of us on the coast.

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005
PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP

tia


Raluek posted:

If it's still got some original sheetmetal, it might have enough in the right place to retain the original '67 VIN. Otherwise, I guess it's gotta be registered as a kit car or something, if he's not willing to buy an old pile of rust with an intact VIN. Which would be illegal.

When starting out on the cab replacement for my FJ45, I specifically made sure that swapping over the vin plate was legal here in Ontario. Some level of tomfoolery is allowed, it would seem. I was required to document it and nothing more. Was told the vin plate must remain with the chassis if the body is going byebye. The old cab got crushed by snow two winters ago and we scrapped it last year.

tehk
Mar 10, 2006

[-4] Flaw: Heart Broken - Tehk is extremely lonely. The Gay Empire's ultimate weapon finds it hard to have time for love.

Small update!

Finished the motor plate. Took the small block chevy motor plate and used sbc and LS cad files to compare it with the trans mount holes(same for Big, Small, and LS blocks) and make a conversion plate. Oddly the LS is 1.315" shorter?! Weird! So I lasered a new LS plate and used the old plate to match the mounting holes. Worked great!



Then I began mounting the motor. So drat easy in this car! I now understand how race teams can change motors and transmissions in minutes. I don't regret this purchase one bit after this small bit of wrenching!


Video of the new car's interior and how you can put a trans in without a jack and the new shop I just got.

Finally I quickly mocked up my intake and headers. This motor is so drat small in this car. It is shocking.


Crunchy Black
Oct 24, 2017


"She should shut her mouth. And I'm warning her by the way to shut her mouth."


gently caress. Yeah.

IPCRESS
May 27, 2012


5d already.

Lower the S2K over a Corolla engine & trans, then post a photo of the mock up to the S2k boards saying that you'd had a change of heart after their sterling defence of OEM Honda tunability and handling. Ask where you get a carb kit for it while you're there.

IPCRESS fucked around with this message at Feb 18, 2018 around 00:01

tehk
Mar 10, 2006

[-4] Flaw: Heart Broken - Tehk is extremely lonely. The Gay Empire's ultimate weapon finds it hard to have time for love.

Worked for about an hour, and bullshited for another three. Got the turbo setup mounted. Surprisingly I only need to shorten one side by a 1/2" and make new dumps/downpipes. Rethinking my intake and might run a dual throttlebody setup to avoid the S2000's twin J cold side tubes


tehk
Mar 10, 2006

[-4] Flaw: Heart Broken - Tehk is extremely lonely. The Gay Empire's ultimate weapon finds it hard to have time for love.

As many of you know I had "student driver" on the S2000 and that became its nickname. In No Prep racing cars need names like drug addled WWF wrestlers. I've decided to call the car "The Abyss" and put a sticker on the bumper that says "Abyssal Gapped" to taunt the other lane. Should make for some fun. Not as much as Mr. GAPP himself Stevie "Fast" Jackson who does blower inserts mocking opponents every time he grudge races and poo poo talks like no other.

So I decided to make some changes from the setup that was in the honda. Bought a pair of 83mm Bullseyepower turbos capable of 1500hp a piece or 2900 as a pair. Going to move them into the fender wells. Also going to have to go tall deck block which increases deck height of the block and thus displacement capability. Hopefully 460+ cubic inches if I can work out the cash. Should work awesome!



Planning on mounting them like this




Here is a size comparison of a S400(mine is bigger than this) and a S300 frame turbo. Crazy bigger.

tehk fucked around with this message at Feb 28, 2018 around 14:21

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Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012

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Jesus dude, 2900 hp? Are you going full nhra or something?

You gon die.

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010


If you keep upsizing turbos, they're going to start generating appreciable thrust.

boxen
Feb 20, 2011


Beach Bum posted:

If you keep upsizing turbos, they're going to start generating appreciable thrust.

I'm reasonably sure this is no poo poo how jet engines came from piston engines.

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

She's a sharkmouth clam
beware
she is


What fuel are we talking here? JP6? Nitromethane? TEP? Actual unicorn tears?

I’m picturing fuel pumps with an output like fire hydrants.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

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Ultimate Mango posted:

What fuel are we talking here? JP6? Nitromethane? TEP? Actual unicorn tears?

I’m picturing fuel pumps with an output like fire hydrants.

I'm gonna guess E85, or he's gonna have to pull a trailer of 116 around if he wants to do the HRPT or drag week.

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May 15, 2004

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Somehow I missed this thread.

The project is weird and interesting. While I mourn the stupidity of the S2000, I respect the by-god fastness that this Camaro-like thing will bring.

tehk
Mar 10, 2006

[-4] Flaw: Heart Broken - Tehk is extremely lonely. The Gay Empire's ultimate weapon finds it hard to have time for love.

Ultimate Mango posted:

What fuel are we talking here? JP6? Nitromethane? TEP? Actual unicorn tears?

I’m picturing fuel pumps with an output like fire hydrants.

M5 or M1 methanol. M5 is a power adder fuel so there is a gain of 10-15% more power via goblin rectums or something. It will be a dual fuel car once I get it registered e85 for the street and m1 for racing.

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

She's a sharkmouth clam
beware
she is


tehk posted:

M5 or M1 methanol. M5 is a power adder fuel so there is a gain of 10-15% more power via goblin rectums or something. It will be a dual fuel car once I get it registered e85 for the street and m1 for racing.

You know that that means, right? “Hybrid” stickers.

Crunchy Black
Oct 24, 2017


"She should shut her mouth. And I'm warning her by the way to shut her mouth."


Ultimate Mango posted:

You know that that means, right? “Hybrid” stickers.

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tehk
Mar 10, 2006

[-4] Flaw: Heart Broken - Tehk is extremely lonely. The Gay Empire's ultimate weapon finds it hard to have time for love.

Are there any goon auto artist? Need some art made for t shirts/hoodies for the shop with a camaro/rx7 sea monster/cthulhu theme.

edit: before I photoshop tentacle porn over sharealike camaro clipart

tehk fucked around with this message at Mar 2, 2018 around 02:22

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