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Jedit posted:Energy in STS is exactly analogous to clicks in Netrunner. Powers and Relics are your permanents. well sure, if by running on servers you could permanantly take clicks away from the corp
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I lucked into an early peace pipe and Panache and build a pretty good turn 1 infinite deck with the Silent, until Time Eater turned up as my act III boss. Still won.
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GrandpaPants posted:I'm curious about the Netrunner playtesters. Not sure why Netrunner players, since it's not like, a deckbuilding game (it is a deck construction game), and that game mostly uses bluffing and action economy as its main player skills... If I had to guess, the simplest answer would be that a dev was a high-level Netrunner player and had access to other Netrunning friends and let them playtest the game.
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Lone Goat posted:If I had to guess, the simplest answer would be that a dev was a high-level Netrunner player and had access to other Netrunning friends and let them playtest the game. You're apparently right. The dev runs stimhack.com.
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Reiterpallasch posted:well sure, if by running on servers you could permanantly take clicks away from the corp Economy deprivation in Netrunner is equivalent to Weak, if you want to extend the comparison to literally every component of the game instead of just the core mechanic that directly coincides with Netrunner.
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Feb 1, 2018 15:15
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Feb 1, 2018 17:12
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Scholtz posted:
one reason i like the silent's 'hold a card (or two)' ability is the ability to hold an attack just incase something like this happens
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Feb 1, 2018 17:37
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That's why I stopped taking clash. Seems so good, ends up sitting in the hand far too often.
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Feb 1, 2018 19:07
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Silent seems a bit less consistent, but when it gets going it gets going. Had a stupid deck that was 20% curses and massive amounts of discard synergy. Started every fight with like 8 strength.
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Scholtz posted:
I really like necronomi-curse’s artwork
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Feb 1, 2018 19:10
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SynthesisAlpha posted:That's why I stopped taking clash. Seems so good, ends up sitting in the hand far too often. Masterful Stab on the Silent has the same problem. Very few turns with the Silent end with an empty hand (and if they do it's because you're running a Discard/Storm of Steel deck) so it just ends up being a dead card five times more often than it's useful.
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Silent’s lack of exhaust feels like a big weakness to me, but I will admit a love for exhaust decks.
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Blind Duke posted:Silent’s lack of exhaust feels like a big weakness to me, but I will admit a love for exhaust decks. Silent gets ludicrous amounts of draw and discard, is supposed to be the tradeoff. Ironclad is good at pruning down his own deck, Silent just churns it like butter. Hell, my last Silent run ended up with a deck the size of what you'd normally get in a M:tG game. If nothing else, it made statuses and curses far less awful to fall into.
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Last night I got: - Necronomicon - main power is cool but importantly gives curse you can't get rid of. - Blue Candle - Lets you exhaust a curse for the cost of 1 HP - Charon's ashes - Does 3 damage to all enemies when you exhaust a card. PLUS the ironclad power that gives you block when you exhaust a card PLUS the power that damages enemies when you gain block. If you exhaust the necro curse it pops back up instantly, so once I had everything up and going I could just play the necro curse for 1 HP and give myself 6 block then do 8 damage to everyone as many times as I wanted limited only by HP available. I died to something stupid of course but lucking into that combo was pretty neat. If I had gotten the vampire event for a bit more healing (or feed / reaper) it might have been totally ridiculous. E: oh, would that have procced Reaper? Does the damage come from the card or the relic? NmareBfly fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Feb 1, 2018 |
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NmareBfly posted:Last night I got: Can you kill yourself with the Blue Candle, or does it just stop working? It seems like it wouldn't just keep churning without damaging you. (If it did, that means you have an infinite any time you draw the Necronomicurse, at the price of all your health.)
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KataraniSword posted:Silent gets ludicrous amounts of draw and discard, is supposed to be the tradeoff. Ironclad is good at pruning down his own deck, Silent just churns it like butter. i like how the copious discards are great at making curses barely even matter. I'm not as regular a winner w/ silent as ironclad but poo poo the silent decks are so much more fun
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KataraniSword posted:Can you kill yourself with the Blue Candle, or does it just stop working? It seems like it wouldn't just keep churning without damaging you. (If it did, that means you have an infinite any time you draw the Necronomicurse, at the price of all your health.) I assumed it would just kill me so I don't think I tried it at 1 HP. If it doesn't then I guess the only weakness would be a thorn enemy. I was ended by a high-HP elite -- I think a book of stabbing that did me in.
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I just slayed the spire on my third attempt, Silent had a hilariously combo-tastic Snecko Eye run. Letter Opener, Shuriken, Gambling Chip, a whole bunch of cycling cards in my deck along with Thousand Cuts and Wraith Form and whatever the armor one's called. First turn I'd pick a few low-cost cards (ideally my powers), gamble everything else that wasn't 0 cost, and just dump my hand. Then repeat. Between the armor cards and weaken, I took very little damage and could vampire it back. It was wonderfully broken.
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Started a run by reducing max HP for the relic that deals 3 random damage when you discard a card as Silent, knew this was my destiny and actually made heavy use of those Can't Be Played But Does A Thing When Discarded cards. And two upgraded Calculated Gambles on top of a bunch of draw. Final boss was Time Eater, less of a problem when one card can deal ~14 damage and often get extra boni
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  Edit: Well, that was probably the easiest run I've ever had:  I ended killing both of them on the second turn with a 342 damage Whirlwind, fueled by multiple Offerings and Seeing Reds. (Apparently Double Tap doubles the amount of Whirlwind attacks, too!) Exodee fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Feb 2, 2018 |
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Patch day Thursdays! http://steamcommunity.com/games/646570/announcements/detail/1672394201001038094 Removed Elixir Potion from the game! Plus some other good balancing changes, no real new content besides some animations.
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Feb 2, 2018 02:46
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good, i probably just throw elixers away 9 out of 10 times. i guess it might be too good to have them just remove all status cards in the whole deck?
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FYI, an 18 card deck with 3 starting strength, double limit break+ and a pile of cleaves, whirlwinds and reapers is pretty cool.
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Didn't see it in the patch notes, new potion is Ancient Potion, gives you 1 artifact which prevents a debuff. Potential good synergy with Flex on Ironclad for perm str buff.
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1 artifact sounds not great to be honest. i'd expect more like 2 or 3 artifact out of a potion. but maybe it's a lot better in practice
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Feb 2, 2018 02:52
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i thought this poo poo wasn't supposed to happen anymore
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I like the reworked eggs. Instead of "Upgrade a X card" they're now "whenever you add an X card, they're upgraded".
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ninjewtsu posted:1 artifact sounds not great to be honest. i'd expect more like 2 or 3 artifact out of a potion. but maybe it's a lot better in practice It's "better than Elixir". You'll use it about as much as the Weak potions, which is to say "it can save you some headache but it's not gonna save a run that's already floundering". quote:
Thank god. All three of those are potential run-killers if you don't already have things gelled out. (though the darklings was a less severe one since if you're still not sure what you're doing by act 3 you're gonna get murdered by the bosses anyway.) The triangles is now unquestionably the easiest of the three elites in Act 1 regardless of run type. Compared to "blocking only makes me stronger" and "the longer you take, the weaker you get", the potential of a slim deck getting bloated with Dazeds is honestly refreshingly simple. EDIT: ninjewtsu posted:i thought this poo poo wasn't supposed to happen anymore Okay, maybe they're not fixed, and thus, just as dangerous still as the other two elites. 
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i spent 6 runs going strength hoping to play with limit break once, and it never appeared first time i figure that i'm probably never gonna get it and run a block build, it appears twice before the end of the first area i'm upset
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I'd rather them fix the 3x Sentry fight to not take three hours instead of not having them all try to 8 me at once.
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ninjewtsu posted:good, i probably just throw elixers away 9 out of 10 times. Yeah, I thought maybe just having it remove a set number of status cards from deck or hand would be decent. I guess finding the line between 'worthless' and 'way too good' must have been tough. Also, thanks to everyone who gave Silent advice! I finally got my first win on Silent, off of 3 discard relics and 3x fumes that let me turtle through Time Eater. I think at this point I'll probably take a break till the actual release, ~17 hours seems like about enough for now (realistically, I'll go back to running cheesy Ironclad decks instead).
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RIP ZEEZ
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Bruceski posted:I like the reworked eggs. Instead of "Upgrade a X card" they're now "whenever you add an X card, they're upgraded". They're uncommon now but holy poo poo this is a huge buff. It probably isn't like deck defining but it is extremely good if you get one early.
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New Awakened One might be a bit overtuned. He does 33% more damage on his multi hit attacks, so if you're playing any amount of powers turn 1 you better have some serious defenses ready.
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Jackhammer posted:If you get searing blow before first camp, you just won the game. Just upgrade it every chance you get. Just had a run where this happened. I only got it to +11 though. I did however also get the book that doubles the first 2+ cost attack each turn so throwing around 200+ damage from one card is pretty nuts. The deck was that, a bunch of cycling, and three headbutts to get Searing Blow back.
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Cinara posted:Patch day Thursdays! good encounter changes even if they apparantly didn't take on the sentries. The mugger/looter can still be super nasty if you find them early on though
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ninjewtsu posted:a really thin deck with armaments and searing blow in it sounds like a pretty cool gimmick I was able to make this work last night! It was a bit rough though since I lacked a lot of defense cards and I also had a bit of an exhaust gimmick going which helped but also hindered a bit sometimes. I had Disarm + a couple of Exhumes, this combined with a gambling chip made it so that I could often start a fight with -9 strength on a big target, I need to try to find more exhaust synergies like this one because everything else I had was a bit underwhelming.
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I had a run with the silent last night where I got the gambling chip and the relic that does 3 damage to a random enemy every time you discard a card. Fun fact when you use the gambling chip at the start of a fight those count for the discard relic.
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IcePhoenix posted:I had a run with the silent last night where I got the gambling chip and the relic that does 3 damage to a random enemy every time you discard a card. The sound of that relic going off seven times at once is great
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