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DaysBefore
Jan 24, 2019


Jimmy Neutron brainblast won't this epic tenant bill of rights make it almost impossible to organise a rent strike against bad landlords since it will tank your Social Credit Score? Huge W for landlords thank you elected government

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RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
“I’ll be blunt … housing is not a primary federal responsibility, it’s not something that we have direct carriage of,” Trudeau said at a Monday press conference announcing the opening of several federally subsidized housing complexes in Hamilton, Ont.

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



federalization was a bad idea, i am for splitting the province's up again.

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

DaysBefore posted:

Jimmy Neutron brainblast won't this epic tenant bill of rights make it almost impossible to organise a rent strike against bad landlords since it will tank your Social Credit Score? Huge W for landlords thank you elected government

correct. it's a gift for landlords

plenty of people (such as myself) are renting because they would have to put 50+% down to have affordable* payments. it's not down to poo poo credit

*not actually affordable but somewhat close to what they pay in market rent right now

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


Yeah my credit score is fantastic, I just can't put money away towards a down payment fast enough to keep up with how quickly the housing prices go up because I'm too busy paying my landlord's mortgage

Bleck
Jan 7, 2014

No matter how one loves, there are always different aims. Love can take a great many forms, whatever the era.
surely voting could solve this

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




The Berzerker posted:

Yeah my credit score is fantastic, I just can't put money away towards a down payment fast enough to keep up with how quickly the housing prices go up because I'm too busy paying my landlord's mortgage

have you tried being middle class or working hard to join them

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



ontario is poo poo

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Vintersorg posted:

ontario is poo poo

Erm excuse me but Ford just gave Ottawa half a billion dollars to expand the highway!

No, there's no money to fix the LRT why do you ask?

ARACHTION
Mar 10, 2012

Segue posted:

It's frustrating because, like with health and education which are also falling apart, a lot of the policy levers for housing are at the mercy of the lovely conservative premiers that immiserate us all. If Trudeau could do anything it would be actually reinstitute federal house building but that requires a tax base, institutional will, and frankly an infrastructure knowledge that we've farmed out to the lovely private sector (look at transit projects).

He could say gently caress the division of powers but he's lost badly in the courts recently on environment regs so he's gunshy and meanwhile Premiers who have been in power for a decade are robbing futures.

And I don't mean to excuse him, he should absolutely do more that his beliefs won't let him do, but god the Premiers are just boobs ripping apart lives. The fact that we're talking about a federal disability program because Premiers are killing people by not improving theirs is so frustrating.

Yeah, had he taken the housing crisis seriously when he first got into power, there could have been institutions or something built up but homeowners were his base then. Now it’s gotten so bad that “middle class” people can’t even afford a 1br condo without significant inter generational wealth transfer. That and millennials make up the biggest voting block now. So he acts like he wants to do something to get the vote, but like you said it’s too late and there are too many people in his way because of course he has done nothing to build a coherent movement that would support serious government action.

Too bad politicians do not look beyond the next election, this was obviously on the horizon for so long for anyone not born into serious wealth.

DaysBefore
Jan 24, 2019


Including future costs Canada has spent something like $70,000,000,000 on the F35 program and has in return received a grand total of Zero airplanes. Imagine the public housing that could have built. But hey at least now if I'm a good little paypig I'll be able to build credit for a house I will never, ever be able to afford

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

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The Berzerker posted:

Yeah my credit score is fantastic, I just can't put money away towards a down payment fast enough to keep up with how quickly the housing prices go up because I'm too busy paying my landlord's mortgage

Have you considered joining the world of travel hacking and credit card churning? It's like playing a game where you can save upwards of a couple hundred dollars per year on premium flight experiences for you and your loved ones! You get to feel like you're getting one over on the banks also, by signing up for as many credit cards as your credit score can handle

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

Have you considered joining the world of travel hacking and credit card churning? It's like playing a game where you can save upwards of a couple hundred dollars per year on premium flight experiences for you and your loved ones! You get to feel like you're getting one over on the banks also, by signing up for as many credit cards as your credit score can handle

wait do people actually do this lmao

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



I wonder how many vintage Zero airplanes 70B would buy, probably enough to keep the Russian bombers away.

CLAM DOWN posted:

wait do people actually do this lmao

Oh absolutely there are people signing up for dozens of credit cards and bank accounts annually just for the promo bonuses, then closing them and repeating.

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:

DaysBefore posted:

Including future costs Canada has spent something like $70,000,000,000 on the F35 program and has in return received a grand total of Zero airplanes. Imagine the public housing that could have built. But hey at least now if I'm a good little paypig I'll be able to build credit for a house I will never, ever be able to afford

ya lol

we need to pull out of Nato

DaysBefore
Jan 24, 2019


Using the $16 million the NS government has budgeted to build 220 new public housing units as reference for the same cost as the zero airplanes we received we could have built roughly 900,000 units of housing. Possibly more considering this is over two decades and construction was much cheaper before the pandemic began. For the same price as we've paid and will pay to buy some planes that might not even work in the Arctic we could have put at least 1 in 40 Canadians in new public housing. Probably more lile 1 in 30 or whatever depending on household size. That's cool though, keep on pouring money in the F35 hole whatever

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

If it was a federal program it would cost $160 million for 220 units though

DaysBefore
Jan 24, 2019


True but we would still have 90,000 units of public housing instead of now, when we have no housing and no airplanes

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

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CLAM DOWN posted:

wait do people actually do this lmao

Actually yeah, I do it sort of casually now because I was able to pay off all my debt as of last year and already have to travel a bit for work and being able to upgrade myself to business class on points and drink free booze in the lounges is really nice. It only makes sense to do if you never carry a balance on any credit card

Some people will get really hardcore and will do things like manufactured spending where they will spend $2500 on reloading a prepaid Mastercard at Safeway every month, and then will use a bill pay feature from that prepaid Mastercard to fund some other account like a Loblaws cash account, and then will do an e-transfer from that cash account back into their chequing, so that they can get 12500 Aeroplan points a month for whatever it costs to load the prepaid Mastercard. There are entire blogs/youtube channels dedicated to this sort of thing (and they all want you to use their referral links to sign up for credit cards of course):

For example (I haven't watched this, I assume he tells you what cards to get and to be sure to use his links so he gets referral bonsuses):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugzxKz4_X_U

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Suplex Liberace posted:

federalization was a bad idea, i am for splitting the province's up again.

I don't know if we'd have UHC such as it is if we didn't have the current division of powers we have. Saskatchewan could run its experiment and didn't rely on an electorate covering a vast geographic space with tons of competing interests.

I get being frustrated with how things are, and the nation's premiers truly are a bunch of oafs but I think fundamentally we just don't have a political system or political parties that articulate solutions to our current crises. Everyone knows housing is shelter, but in economic terms, houses are commodities and treated as such. It doesn't matter how many houses are built, because those are commodities will be bought up by institutional or individual investors who see them as a good investment, not your downwardly mobile Middle Class dolt such as myself.

much like the states canada managed to avoid developing any kind of labour party so at best we've had to rely on prairie farmer socialism and the cataclysm of two world wars and a global depression to forge the social programs we do have

Dreylad has issued a correction as of 18:35 on Mar 28, 2024

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
coincidentally 1 in 40 canadians is roughly the amount of new arrivals last year

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



RealityWarCriminal posted:

coincidentally 1 in 40 canadians is roughly the amount of new arrivals last year

mad?

Anyway all this talk about lack of investment in public housing is distracting from the real important issues:

https://twitter.com/TheoMoudakis/status/1773321968755880297

UnknownMercenary
Nov 1, 2011

I LIKE IT
WAY WAY TOO LOUD


Vintersorg posted:

ontario is poo poo

Demon_Corsair
Mar 22, 2004

Goodbye stealing souls, hello stealing booty.

Precambrian Video Games posted:

mad?

Anyway all this talk about lack of investment in public housing is distracting from the real important issues:

https://twitter.com/TheoMoudakis/status/1773321968755880297

I’m at my parents for Easter so I’m getting a massive dose of nightly news and this is a big thing they are pushing right now. Every night it’s either cyber attacks, election meddling or foreign governments cracking down on their Canadian populations.

not really sure why Russian, Iran and China would care so much about an American lapdog.

pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.
I wonder what they think canada would look like without this supposed meddling. is it really so hard to believe we're doing this to ourselves

neongrey
Feb 28, 2007

Plaguing your posts with incidental music.
it would be nice if it wasn't so believeable

welp

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Doug Ford says the Ontario school boards seeing social media is nonsense. I think he's just worried that if they win the settlement payout would be more cash than he's ever given to the schoolboards

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
It does seem like a pretty ballsy lawsuit, I have no idea if it'll succeed, but since we don't do seem to be able to do much with politics that benefit normal people anymore it does seem like people are pursuing actual political action through the courts whether it's social media or climate change or land claims.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

pokeyman posted:

I wonder what they think canada would look like without this supposed meddling. is it really so hard to believe we're doing this to ourselves

there's plenty of meddling, it's wide out in the open and fully documented and it's the loving americans doing it.

we don't need some yellow peril bullshit, we have direct incontrovertible evidence of foreign interference with our national and regional politicians, and it's so blase that no one would even consider reporting on it.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

infernal machines posted:

there's plenty of meddling, it's wide out in the open and fully documented and it's the loving americans doing it.

we don't need some yellow peril bullshit, we have direct incontrovertible evidence of foreign interference with our national and regional politicians, and it's so blase that no one would even consider reporting on it.

Don't discount Research and Analysis Wing and Unit 8200. Canada has no internal security it's a free for all no one good at SIGINT or HUMINT would work for our services anymore

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Precambrian Video Games posted:

mad?

Anyway all this talk about lack of investment in public housing is distracting from the real important issues:

https://twitter.com/TheoMoudakis/status/1773321968755880297

gottem :elon::elon::elon:

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



Dreylad posted:

I don't know if we'd have UHC such as it is if we didn't have the current division of powers we have. Saskatchewan could run its experiment and didn't rely on an electorate covering a vast geographic space with tons of competing interests.

I get being frustrated with how things are, and the nation's premiers truly are a bunch of oafs but I think fundamentally we just don't have a political system or political parties that articulate solutions to our current crises. Everyone knows housing is shelter, but in economic terms, houses are commodities and treated as such. It doesn't matter how many houses are built, because those are commodities will be bought up by institutional or individual investors who see them as a good investment, not your downwardly mobile Middle Class dolt such as myself.

much like the states canada managed to avoid developing any kind of labour party so at best we've had to rely on prairie farmer socialism and the cataclysm of two world wars and a global depression to forge the social programs we do have

Dreylad i will wait the 3-4 years for canada health to be shurttered and then you will have nothing to stand on and will have to help me destroy the constitution act of 1867. We will finally have a beautiful land, sea to shining sea free of Ottawas meddling

damn horror queefs
Oct 14, 2005

say hello
say hello to the man in the elevator
Finally Canadians will be able to enjoy the True American Dream: earning minimum wage working for a health insurance company for the sole purpose of being able to afford health insurance :patriot:

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Precambrian Video Games posted:

mad?

Anyway all this talk about lack of investment in public housing is distracting from the real important issues:

https://twitter.com/TheoMoudakis/status/1773321968755880297

Definitely enjoying all the "you, sir, win the internet" comments

Liberals istg

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Well my 4 day weekend got torpedoed by an imploding Federal government. Usually they wait until after budget day to go on the whirlwind tour talking up all their new spending but they're desperate right now. Everyone has been out this week and into next week trying to show a preview of the budget to get ahead of critics, so my Easter Monday I wasn't supposed to work is now hosed.

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
should be getting double time working a Holi day like that

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

RealityWarCriminal posted:

should be getting double time working a Holi day like that

Sorry, all my Holi days sound like they were recited by a Tory robot man.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Suplex Liberace posted:

Dreylad i will wait the 3-4 years for canada health to be shurttered and then you will have nothing to stand on and will have to help me destroy the constitution act of 1867. We will finally have a beautiful land, sea to shining sea free of Ottawas meddling

very well I accept your Offer

Segue
May 23, 2007

God I just read a really depressing piece in the New Yorker about how much the UK has been ruined by 14 years of conservative rule and just looking at the Premiers and Poilievre I wonder what will be standing in 10 here.

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CrcleSqreSanchz
Aug 21, 2002

I'm feeling something new...something...I'm happy??!!

Segue posted:

God I just read a really depressing piece in the New Yorker about how much the UK has been ruined by 14 years of conservative rule and just looking at the Premiers and Poilievre I wonder what will be standing in 10 here.

A taxidermy statue of Don cherry that people worship as a God.

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