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Cygni posted:They are all purpose built silhouette racecars on a BOP budget, and only 1 of them is new this year. If they aren’t equal, it’s a BOP problem. The 488 GTE isn’t quite that divorced from the road car.
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drgitlin posted:The 488 GTE isn’t quite that divorced from the road car. From what I've been told, neither is the GT. But both are also true supercars, instead of GT cars.
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He's basically in every WEC race that doesn't clash with an F1 weekend. Time to see how strong the Alonso curse is.
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Rebellion or whoever is going to get the overall win needs to hire Stroll so I can kill myself.
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njsykora posted:He's basically in every WEC race that doesn't clash with an F1 weekend. Time to see how strong the Alonso curse is. It's just so sad because he looks and acts like he loving LOVES life and driving, everywhere but F1. Even when poo poo fails he's still excited and happy.
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The #8 Toyota won five races last season, and will be a squad of drivers who all have Formula 1 experience -- Kazuki Nakajima and Sebastien Buemi as teammates, and Ant Davidson still as reserve driver for when Alonso can't run. ...that #8 car is going to retire from Le Mans in the most heartbreaking way, isn't it 
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harperdc posted:The #8 Toyota won five races last season, and will be a squad of drivers who all have Formula 1 experience -- Kazuki Nakajima and Sebastien Buemi as teammates, and Ant Davidson still as reserve driver for when Alonso can't run. Big Kamui Kobayashi is going to win Le Mans in the #7 car and set another fastest lap record
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Schlesische posted:The Delta Integrale existed in a magical time before Balance of Performance. BoP is made to be broken
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Feels Villeneuve posted:BoP is made to be broken I'm surprised nobody has
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A guy in the midweek motorsport group on Facebook did some analysis of the fords and Corvettes, and the corvettes actually had a faster average laptime than the fords, when they were on track. Corvettes spent quite a bit more time in the pits. IIRC one of them changed front brakes twice, once during the fcy near 16h to go, and then once again during green flag running near 8h to go, which kinda killed their chances. Ford has a car that is purpose built for efficient running at high speed tracks like Daytona and Le Mans, so it had to stop less while still maintaining pace. I still think what they did in 2016 was bullshit by sandbagging and bringing out a waiver special before any road cars were even delivered, but the former is on the ACO for not catching it, and the latter is on the other makes for not barring the waiver. I think the same can be said of the BMW, you can't buy any 8-series yet, let alone the M8. We're just less butthurt about it because it's not competitive yet.
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New Formula e chassis http://www.racer.com/formula-e/item/147101-formula-e-fia-unveil-images-of-gen2-car  uh, ok.
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It looks cool as poo poo.
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Crossposting from the F1 thread: it's the worst race car I've ever seen.
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Eyud posted:It looks better than current F1 cars. No, it doesn't. The 2017 F1 cars are among the most attractive in the last 2 decades.
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njsykora posted:It looks cool as poo poo.
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wicka posted:Crossposting from the F1 thread: it's the worst race car I've ever seen. this confirms that the new formula e car owns
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harperdc posted:I'm surprised nobody has I recall ages ago listening to Dave Richards extolling the great benefits of BoP because he didn't have to do anything to his cars, he was bragging that he was telling engineers not to bother adding anything because it was a waste of cash. In retrospect that seemed so loving naive and short sighted.
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its funny cause im pretty sure the cars would be faster at some of their rinky-dink tracks without the body work
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No, they wouldn’t. There’s a great feature in this month’s Racecar Engineering about Formula E aerodynamics. The cars are actually very low drag.
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drgitlin posted:No, they wouldn’t. There’s a great feature in this month’s Racecar Engineering about Formula E aerodynamics. The cars are actually very low drag. Right. The car is all about function first, then form second. Like the Delta Wing, only less ambiguously gay.
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WindyMan posted:Right. The car is all about function first, then form second. Like the Delta Wing, only less ambiguously gay. There's no way you can look at that full size Hot Wheels car and say that with a straight face.
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drgitlin posted:No, they wouldn’t. There’s a great feature in this month’s Racecar Engineering about Formula E aerodynamics. The cars are actually very low drag. Compared with most other open wheel cars it’s easy to see that because the wheels are covered
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drgitlin posted:No, they wouldn’t. There’s a great feature in this month’s Racecar Engineering about Formula E aerodynamics. The cars are actually very low drag. i was talking weight not drag but ok. im not sure drag matters much when you are going 30mph around a 1-lane chicane
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wicka posted:There's no way you can look at that full size Hot Wheels car Why is that a bad thing?!?
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WindyMan posted:Why is that a bad thing?!? Because it's childish and awful? It's the car version of scaling up a Barbie to human size, just an absolute nightmare.
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Me and Wicka are in alignment on this which means you're definitely wrong.
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1500quidporsche posted:Me and Wicka are in alignment on this which means you're definitely wrong. Or it is the case you are both horribly bad posters and therefore any opinion from you two jerks can be politely ignored.
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You Am I posted:Or it is the case you are both horribly bad posters and therefore any opinion from you two jerks can be politely ignored.
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SPACE HOMOS posted:
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You Am I posted:Or it is the case you are both horribly bad posters and therefore any opinion from you two jerks can be politely ignored. Or it could possibly be that it actually looks bad and is made even worse by the fact that it was almost certainly dreamed up by a marketing team and then warmed over by some aero graduates. If you want an actual legitimate low drag open wheel concept then look to Formula Vee which also runs on low power with skinny street tires. This thing is so self indulgence it looks ridiculous. Or you can just wholesale write off two posters who more often than not sit on the opposite side of any issue but can still talk to eachother respectfully lol.
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1500quidporsche posted:Or it could possibly be that it actually looks bad and is made even worse by the fact that it was almost certainly dreamed up by a marketing team and then warmed over by some aero graduates. 
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it doesn't really look like, "bad" imo, it's just fake. it's contrived.
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'hey guys can you take the incredibly cool allard j2x and instead make it look like a lovely try-hard happy meal toy that even kids dont like'
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Cygni posted:'hey guys can you take the incredibly cool allard j2x and instead make it look like a lovely try-hard happy meal toy that even kids dont like' I was thinking Frisbee GR2 or 3 myself
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