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The Ninth Layer posted:I think people who are abstaining from making president calls are scummy. It's a lot easier for the town to pick a townie than the other way around. What? This is absolutely nonsense. 
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Its a cumulative thing, the longer I last, the more people I can cop.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:43
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50 pounds of bread posted:Its a cumulative thing, the longer I last, the more people I can cop. I made something similar to this role in another game, and called it a super cop, so I buy this as a role. It's a balancing act of when you reveal your information. 
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Feb 16, 2018 22:46
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Wow 50 that is a hell of an ability
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Feb 16, 2018 22:47
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Asiina posted:What? This is absolutely nonsense. How so? There are way more town players than scum players, good play is easier to identify than deceptive play. Also the nomination process gives us opportunities to talk about the merits of individual players and abstaining from that discussion is scummy.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:47
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Did we agree we can move our nomination votes? If so ##nominate 50 pounds
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Feb 16, 2018 22:48
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SalTheBard posted:Wow 50 that is a hell of an ability Its good, but it has risks, I figured the president thing can mitigate the risks of holding on as long as I can.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:52
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Also has the negative side effect of revealing power roles.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:52
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50 pounds of bread posted:Also has the negative side effect of revealing power roles. Does the list get released for you? What would prevent you from just saying X is town and not that X is the doctor too?
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Feb 16, 2018 22:53
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I know we're focusing on the role stuff atm and that's cool, but real talk let's not let this absolutely insane post go by unchallenged.The Ninth Layer posted:I think people who are abstaining from making president calls are scummy. It's a lot easier for the town to pick a townie than the other way around. It's easier for town to pick out town than the other way around? Than scum to pick out scum? Than scum to pick out town? Than town to pick out scum? The first two are 100% not true because scum know who is town and who is scum. The third is easier on later days but not on D2 after a nolynch D1. It's safer now with this claim and some night action/role information to go on, but when Chic and others voted to nominate nobody that information wasn't revealed yet and so all things being equal, what kind of insane confidence do you have that you are willing to make someone who isn't you deathproof for some unknown period of time because you're that sure that they are town? Why is not having that confidence scummy? This is an awful vote and terrible reasoning from someone who just a few posts earlier didn't even seem to know if the nominations were real or not. Would vote TNL for this. 
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Asiina posted:I know we're focusing on the role stuff atm and that's cool, but real talk let's not let this absolutely insane post go by unchallenged. It's easier for town to pick town than scum. You are making arguments that could easily be applied to no lynching. Why make any choice at all without perfect certainty?
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Feb 16, 2018 22:55
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The Ninth Layer posted:It's easier for town to pick town than scum. “The other way around” can be (I did, and assume Asiina did) read as “for scum to pick scum” Which...no.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:57
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its a fake god damned ability !!! he just wants to be invulnerable so he can bully me
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Feb 16, 2018 22:59
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GeneX posted:“The other way around” can be (I did, and assume Asiina did) read as “for scum to pick scum” I'm phone posting, apologies for being unclear.
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Feb 16, 2018 23:00
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GeneX posted:“The other way around” can be (I did, and assume Asiina did) read as “for scum to pick scum” even a pedant like me will often assume, when I see a point that makes literally no sense, that the writer probably didn't actually intend that reading. (he's still wrong about it being scummy to have wanted to wait, though.)
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Feb 16, 2018 23:00
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The Ninth Layer posted:Does the list get released for you? What would prevent you from just saying X is town and not that X is the doctor too? No it just modkills me and releases all the info to the thread. I don't get to see any of it until then.
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Feb 16, 2018 23:02
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The Ninth Layer posted:I'm phone posting, apologies for being unclear. It’s all good, phoneposting is a pain
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Feb 16, 2018 23:04
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The Ninth Layer posted:It's easier for town to pick town than scum. So wait, I'm scum bc i don't want to risk giving scum a possible big leg up with deathproof/lunchproof and undefined extra powers? ????? Like yeah statistically there's more town than scum but there's still gonna be a fair portion of scum Also semi-relatedly: 50's claim sounds real to me
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Feb 16, 2018 23:06
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Bifauxnen posted:even a pedant like me will often assume, when I see a point that makes literally no sense, that the writer probably didn't actually intend that reading. I addressed several possible interpretations in my post, and none of them are good reasons to vote for someone, including the one he apparently actually meant. 
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Feb 16, 2018 23:06
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The Ninth Layer posted:It's easier for town to pick town than scum. There's a difference between lynching someone who might be town and giving someone deathproof for some unknown number of days and who knows what other powers. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being hesitant to give that to someone almost entirely randomly. Like you're not making the argument that we should nominate someone, you're saying that people who are hesitating to nominate someone are scum, and that makes no sense. 
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Feb 16, 2018 23:09
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Also I forget who it was but someone said that the nightkills made no sense - looks like scum just killed whoever was on the bottom of the postcount rankings
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Feb 16, 2018 23:09
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Asiina posted:There's a difference between lynching someone who might be town and giving someone deathproof for some unknown number of days and who knows what other powers. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being hesitant to give that to someone almost entirely randomly. We're coming off a day 1 no lynch and are into a day 2 where the majority of players are not voting anyone. How cautious are we really going to play this game?
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Feb 16, 2018 23:15
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50 pounds of bread posted:No it just modkills me and releases all the info to the thread. I don't get to see any of it until then. I guess afterwards will depend on how much information you have about how long you're deathproof and when you want to risk seeing if the modkill will go through the deathproof. You can ask peramene, but honestly I doubt she'll tell you. If you're not sure when the deathproof wears off, it might be worth it to announce your results right away and roll the dice, but if you know then waiting an extra night or so might be useful. I wouldn't go longer than one night though in case the people you investigate start dying. 
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Feb 16, 2018 23:15
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The Ninth Layer posted:We're coming off a day 1 no lynch and are into a day 2 where the majority of players are not voting anyone. How cautious are we really going to play this game? None of that explains why someone being cautious is scummy. 
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Feb 16, 2018 23:18
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Im probably going to use it the moment deathproof wears off.
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Feb 16, 2018 23:20
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I kinda hoped for more people explaining why they want etc person to be the president but ok I think asiina is good because they are posting a lot more than usual Lets go, whose turn is next?
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Feb 16, 2018 23:21
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As an average human girl, this sounds like a sound plan. ##nominate 50 pounds of bread
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Feb 16, 2018 23:25
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Kill me
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Feb 16, 2018 23:31
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hm, claiming this seems like a suboptimal move in a game this big, 50 probably could've safely gone a few days without being in danger and just done his thing quietly, then explained it all for us just before he released his results. Now, unless the presidency also grants him some nice power to be immune to roleblocks, he's prolly not gonna be at his most productive. Also the presidency is supposed to give you extra responsibility, which is the cutesy rename for power roles. Unless it also grants you the ability to act twice in one night so you can fulfill all your responsibilities, 50 might find himself torn between not using his cop, or wasting whatever other powers he got in his new office. Granted, it might be worth it anyway just to get the deathproof/lunchproof part. But this wasn't as obvious of a slam dunk move as it looks at first glance. I guess now that the cat's out of the bag though, we prolly should nominate him just so he at least gets a shot at it. Suboptimal play does not mean scummy, so don't take this the wrong way, it's not an accusation or anything, I'm just saying this to be an rear end in a top hat to 50.
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Feb 16, 2018 23:43
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Bifauxnen posted:hm, claiming this seems like a suboptimal move kek
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Feb 16, 2018 23:49
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Yes, Chic! It's unironic lol
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Feb 16, 2018 23:49
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Maybe you're right Bif.
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Feb 16, 2018 23:49
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ugh ##vote AA
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Feb 16, 2018 23:49
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Bifauxnen posted:ugh hahah
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Feb 16, 2018 23:50
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Bifauxnen posted:ugh Don't be a hater all your life, Bif!
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Feb 16, 2018 23:50
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50 I formally renounce all further criticism of you this game, unless it is a clear and direct criticism of your alignment for not appearing to be townie enough. I feel a new sense of perspective coming on
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Bifauxnen posted:50 I formally renounce all further criticism of you this game, unless it is a clear and direct criticism of your alignment for not appearing to be townie enough. Cool, we can be friends now. I don't think you're an rear end in a top hat, not assholes can be assholes sometimes and that's okay.
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Feb 17, 2018 00:04
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Kashuno posted:Kill me I'm trying. 
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Feb 17, 2018 00:14
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##nominate 50 pounds of bread sorry gulag, this vote is actually so we can win
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Kashuno posted:Kill me no one's listening to me 
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