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DO YALL WANT A BOXC
Jul 20, 2010

EYY WHO WANTS A PIZZA PIE ? PASTA LINGUINE ITSA FAMILY THING PAISAN EYYYYYY





Fun Shoe

Crazy Ted posted:

FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY VICTIMS



between this and gymnastics it's kind of feeling like our athletes should have "olympic athlete from USA" for next summer olympics, maybe that would actually get this poo poo the response it deserves

i have a feeling this is not going to be the only other olympic organization to have this kind of scandal either

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skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

Prepare to be emancipated from your own inferior genes!


Grimey Drawer

I think college track and field has had a bunch of cases of abusive coaches, that seems like the next domino to fall.

elentar
Aug 26, 2002

Congratulations! Your bonsai is dead!

Grimey Drawer

There's been a big series of stuff recently on one particular predator in British youth football, but he's far from the only one over the decades.

All these stables have to get cleaned out now and new rules put in place or else everyone who's in hiding waiting for this to blow over is just going to be right back at it in 2 or 3 years' time.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003



DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:

between this and gymnastics it's kind of feeling like our athletes should have "olympic athlete from USA" for next summer olympics, maybe that would actually get this poo poo the response it deserves

i have a feeling this is not going to be the only other olympic organization to have this kind of scandal either
This isn't the only country this is going on in right now. In recent months it's been revealed that a shitload of English soccer clubs employed youth coaches who were molesting their players.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Tell him about the Twinkie.

DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:

i have a feeling this is not going to be the only other olympic organization to have this kind of scandal either

Morbid as it sounds, everyone should be taking a long, hard look at any Olympic sport that starts involving young people at an early age. I'm honestly shocked that we haven't heard anything from ice skating or skiing yet.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003



Timby posted:

Morbid as it sounds, everyone should be taking a long, hard look at any Olympic sport that starts involving young people at an early age. I'm honestly shocked that we haven't heard anything from ice skating or skiing yet.
There's no way poo poo like this isn't going on in ice skating. Those kids start in special programs before they turn 10.

Seemingly every sport where children are coached on an individual basis is in grave danger of a scandal like this one occurring. Tennis is another where I could easily see a scandal like this happening.

Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at Feb 17, 2018 around 23:45

DO YALL WANT A BOXC
Jul 20, 2010

EYY WHO WANTS A PIZZA PIE ? PASTA LINGUINE ITSA FAMILY THING PAISAN EYYYYYY





Fun Shoe

Crazy Ted posted:

This isn't the only country this is going on in right now. In recent months it's been revealed that a shitload of English soccer clubs employed youth coaches who were molesting their players.

yeah in hockey too there was the graham james stuff a couple of years ago.

but i'm saying i would legit like the US to be banned from the olympics over this poo poo so that more heads would roll. and so it would set precedent. i mean the cheating stuff Russia did is obviously comically wrong and awful, but it's nothing in comparison to this, and this poo poo should be in scope of who gets to participate in the olympics

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007



Lipstick Apathy

Crazy Ted posted:

Now it's USA Swimming's turn in the crosshairs

God damnit As soon as the Nassar stuff started picking up steam I had that sinking feeling that swimming was coming down the pipe sooner rather than later. I've been a swimmer all my life, taught lessons and coached during the summer....everything just sucks.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011


Ban adult coaches, let kids player-coach themselves

clean ayers act
Aug 13, 2007

How do I shot puck!?

quote:

By December 1997, months of being sexually abused by Havercroft were taking a toll on Thompson, she said. She had a nightmare that Havercroft placed a dog collar around her neck and pulled her down the pool in an effort to make her swim faster. After Havercroft found out about the dream, he bought a dog collar and leash for Christmas, Thompson said. One day at practice he pressured Thompson into wearing the dog collar and then had her swim while Havercroft, holding the attached leash, walked down the pool deck beside her laughing. Thompson said she was humiliated.

She was 15.

Holy poo poo . what is wrong with people

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007



Lipstick Apathy

not a whole lot of public updates recently but just saw this zoom into my twitter feed.


https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/978630778262360064

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

This neckbearded nerd has incredibly stupid opinions on fantasy firearms.

"Remember, Mastershakeman is literally always wrong."




GobiasIndustries posted:

not a whole lot of public updates recently but just saw this zoom into my twitter feed.


https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/978630778262360064

also for compiling nude student "selfies" on his work computer, in the first charges to spring from an investigation into how complaints against the disgraced former sports doctor were handled.

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007

If loving you is binturong, I don't want to binturight.

"The affidavit also says that investigators found nude photos and pornographic videos on Strampel’s work computer, as well as a video of Nassar giving 'treatment' to a young patient."

shut michigan state down

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

This neckbearded nerd has incredibly stupid opinions on fantasy firearms.

"Remember, Mastershakeman is literally always wrong."





how was him having a video of nassar committing surprise sex not the lead here

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

Goal, assist, fight.

I assumed the charges, when that guy originally got arrested without the charges listed, would be for simple neglect over Nassar.

I did not think it would be that the guy was ALSO a rapist pedophile.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008




Weird, wild stuff

elentar
Aug 26, 2002

Congratulations! Your bonsai is dead!

Grimey Drawer

Hey guess who’s going to foot the bill on all this

Go ahead, guess



If you guessed “people without money” you are both right and not tremendously naive:
https://twitter.com/reclaimuc/status/978737502663081984

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"



this was the alert I got on my phone today, and my immediate thought was "burn East Lansing to the ground". I suppose it's not a surprise that a creepy pedo rapist kept his job because his boss was also a creepy pedo rapist but jesus loving christ everyone in that administration should lose their loving jobs.

Drunk Canuck
Jan 9, 2010

Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.


Death Penalty

Marquis de Pyro
Sep 25, 2006

Evil Prevails

Mark Dantonio tweets about this: 0

Mark Dantonio tweets going off on ESPN for the auto generated picture used in their tweet on the subject without actually mentioning the subject: 1

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010


elentar posted:

Hey guess who’s going to foot the bill on all this

Go ahead, guess



If you guessed “people without money” you are both right and not tremendously naive:
https://twitter.com/reclaimuc/status/978737502663081984

Good thing Michigan already has some of the highest in state tuition in the country.

jit bull transpile
Jan 6, 2012



Gary’s Answer

elentar posted:

Hey guess who’s going to foot the bill on all this

Go ahead, guess



If you guessed “people without money” you are both right and not tremendously naive:
https://twitter.com/reclaimuc/status/978737502663081984

Hey, remember what I said before about it being institutions and not individuals that make this level of harm possible?

Literally institutionally transferring the consequences of mass surprise sex onto the most vulnerable. Burn your institutions.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

Goal, assist, fight.

cis autodrag posted:

Hey, remember what I said before about it being institutions and not individuals that make this level of harm possible?

Literally institutionally transferring the consequences of mass surprise sex onto the most vulnerable. Burn your institutions.

Counterpoint.

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Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.



Oh and it was still going on after they arrested Nassar

quote:

The dean held power and was willing to wield it. He routinely glared at women sexually, made them spin around for him and suggested he send them nude photos or engage in sexual acts in exchange for preferential treatment from him, according to prosecutors. He reminded them of his might and their vulnerability – young students piling on debt who could fail to graduate and thus have no doctor’s salary to eventually pay off their loans.

“I hold your entire future in my hand and I can do whatever I want with it,” Strampel told one alleged victim. On multiple occasions, he allegedly told her to present herself to him so he could see her body. Once was in a group setting. To another female student, he allegedly requested she stand and turn around before him while stating, “What do I have to do to teach you to be submissive and subordinate to men?”

Just shut down the whole school, distribute its assets to all directional Michigans.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

Goal, assist, fight.

Luigi Thirty posted:

Oh and it was still going on after they arrested Nassar


Just shut down the whole school, distribute its assets to all directional Michigans.

Welcome to the Big Ten, Grand Valley State.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008



If we could just tear down our institutions and start over, I'm sure things would work out differently the next time around.

jit bull transpile
Jan 6, 2012



Gary’s Answer

General Dog posted:

If we could just tear down our institutions and start over, I'm sure things would work out differently the next time around.

Whelp, better not fix anything ever then

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

Goal, assist, fight.

cis autodrag posted:

Whelp, better not fix anything ever then

Better just let the pedophiles go, and let them reform in another group, with a different name

jit bull transpile
Jan 6, 2012



Gary’s Answer

AsInHowe posted:

Better just let the pedophiles go, and let them reform in another group, with a different name

Obviously when I said "burn your institutions" I meant "form a pedophile free state with no laws", excellent insight AsInHowe

Konstantin
Jun 20, 2005
And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

Michigan State has a $2 billion endowment. They should use every penny to provide full financial compensation to every victim, and donate whatever's left to charities that help prevent sexual assault. gently caress them if they raise tuition a penny because of this poo poo.

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007

If loving you is binturong, I don't want to binturight.

Konstantin posted:

Michigan State has a $2 billion endowment. They should use every penny to provide full financial compensation to every victim, and donate whatever's left to charities that help prevent sexual assault. gently caress them if they raise tuition a penny because of this poo poo.

The tough thing is endowments aren't just liquid cash sitting in the bank.

jit bull transpile
Jan 6, 2012



Gary’s Answer

DJExile posted:

The tough thing is endowments aren't just liquid cash sitting in the bank.

Also they're usually earmarked for specific stuff. It's one of the ways important alumni perpetuate sports programs that might otherwise come under scrutiny. They endow a stadium, or training facilities, and the school bends over backwards keeping the program going because maybe someday they alumnus or alumna will give to another program too.

My lovely d3 school that didn't even have a wrestling program somehow kept a men's badminton team going for ages because of an earmarked endowment.

iospace
Apr 20, 2020




Grimey Drawer

AsInHowe, now is really not the time to shill for Michigan over Michigan State. I understand rivalries and all that but it's horribly tasteless.

sportsgenius86
Jun 17, 2008

THE STREAK IS OVER


Konstantin posted:

Michigan State has a $2 billion endowment. They should use every penny to provide full financial compensation to every victim, and donate whatever's left to charities that help prevent sexual assault. gently caress them if they raise tuition a penny because of this poo poo.

lol yea gently caress all the good actual poo poo being done by people at the university who have absolutely nothing to do with any of this.

sportsgenius86 fucked around with this message at Mar 28, 2018 around 15:33

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011

Me uni a la Revolucion #RXT


el sabe ...


sportsgenius86 posted:

lol yea gently caress all the good actually poo poo being done by people at the university who have absolutely nothing to do with any of this.

Maybe the university shouldn't have paid a dude to use their resources to whack off to university-funded child surprise sex then.

Adun
Apr 15, 2001

Publicola

Fun Shoe

Konstantin posted:

Michigan State has a $2 billion endowment. They should use every penny to provide full financial compensation to every victim, and donate whatever's left to charities that help prevent sexual assault. gently caress them if they raise tuition a penny because of this poo poo.

lol

It’s a lovely situation. Someone has to pay for victim compensation. Either taxpayers or students and honesty probably both.

sportsgenius86
Jun 17, 2008

THE STREAK IS OVER


rare Magic card l00k posted:

Maybe the university shouldn't have paid a dude to use their resources to whack off to university-funded child surprise sex then.

yea so go after the people who actually contributed to that and not all endowed funds, some of which pay for research and other stuff in departments completely unrelated to Nassar. The university needs to pay for sure but it does nobody any good to poo poo all over unrelated parties because top leadership did them wrong.

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007



Lipstick Apathy


https://twitter.com/OliviaMesser/st...021933848203264

quote:

EAST LANSING - A public relations firm billed MSU for more than $500,000 for January as it tracked social media activity surrounding the Larry Nassar case, which often included the accounts of victims and their families, journalists, celebrities and politicians.

The work, which also included collecting and evaluating news articles, had previously been done by members of Michigan State University's Office of Communication and Brand Strategy, some of whom continued to do so in January.

The work by Weber Shandwick, a New York-based firm, totaled $517,343 for more than 1,440 hours of work, according to documents obtained through a public records request. The firm billed for work done by 18 different employees, whose hourly rates ranged from $200 to $600 per hour. Five of those employees billed MSU for more than $50,000, including one who billed for $96,900 and another who billed for $120,893.

Weber Shandwick no longer works with the university, an MSU spokeswoman said. She did not provide a reason and referred comment to the firm. A message seeking comment from Weber Shandwick wasn't immediately returned.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

I got a new dance for ya'll I call it the Philly Special




Wedge Regret

rare Magic card l00k posted:

Maybe the university shouldn't have paid a dude to use their resources to whack off to university-funded child surprise sex then.

Isn't "lack of institutional control" the justification the NCAA uses to death penalty a program?

I mean they won't do it because they have major financial incentives not to. This scandal is absolutely horrifying.

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AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

Goal, assist, fight.


Maybe we could get the account paying for social media tracking emptied to pay victims??

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