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LuckyCat
Jul 26, 2007

Grimey Drawer
I just tried again with “Hey Google, what is 29.99 times 1.0825” and it didn’t know what to do. Siri got it though.

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Endymion FRS MK1
Oct 29, 2011

I don't know what this thing is, and I don't care. I'm just tired of seeing your stupid newbie av from 2011.

LuckyCat posted:

I just tried again with “Hey Google, what is 29.99 times 1.0825” and it didn’t know what to do. Siri got it though.

Huh, interesting. That doesn't work as you say, but I tried random other multiplication problems with decimals and it did fine, like 9.5*2.45

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Semi-related but Hue just put out their adaptive lighting update for iOS14/HomeKit control

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Seems my store has tons of minis for pickup. I ordered another pair last night and they’re still available for pickup today this morning.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
So apart from the sound quality/power, being able to use as a homekit hub, is there anything the regular size homepod has over the mini?

I have a few sonos units and would like to start moving over to homepod because I'm quite homekit centric. Also the sonos app is loving garbage.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Speaking of Sonos, I have a One SL in my toddlers' bedroom that I use to play white noise at night. After I got some minis, I set up an automation to start it at 8:15pm every night. Looks like it just Airplays the playlist I have from one of the Minis in the house, rather than just natively playing it on the Sonos, like you would in the Sonos app. Not super annoying, but that means that whatever Mini it Airplays from, you can't use or else it shuts the playlist to the Sonos One off.

I just went back to manually starting it via the Sonos app every night, which sucks, but whatever.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

If anyone has two of these (mini or regular) how seamless is it when you use them with an Apple TV.

I have a sound bar now but I’d love to get rid of it in favor of two of these minis in the bedroom.

Obviously the sound bar just works so I’d hope the minis are the same. I don’t want to have to switch the sound around every time I use the tv.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


You can pick the audio source on Apple TV and it keeps the setting so yeah you just pick the homepods once and you’re set.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

You can pick the audio source on Apple TV and it keeps the setting so yeah you just pick the homepods once and you’re set.

Ok amazing.

How about independent sound control? Like my S/O might want hers lower while I’m watching tv.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


MarcusSA posted:

Ok amazing.

How about independent sound control? Like my S/O might want hers lower while I’m watching tv.

I believe that’s also a thing though I can’t 100% confirm with Apple TV. What I do have at home (HomePod and mini) do have separate volume toggles when I’m playing stuff from my iMac so I imagine it’d be the same thing on the AppleTV.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



priznat posted:

So apart from the sound quality/power, being able to use as a homekit hub, is there anything the regular size homepod has over the mini?

I have a few sonos units and would like to start moving over to homepod because I'm quite homekit centric. Also the sonos app is loving garbage.
HomePods Big can do Atmos when connected to an AppleTV. That's the only feature difference I can think of.

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon
Is there some way to hide other people's HomePods in the airplay UI? I guess they're becoming popular and like 10 show up in range of my apartment. I've tried playing porno through most of them to get them to change their settings with no luck (and regardless some of them show up but also need a passcode).

Right now my two rooms with HomePod minis are named AAA - Living Room and AAA - Bedroom simply to be at the top of the sort order.

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon
Also this is gonna be phase two
code:
#!/bin/bash

while [ 1 -eq 1 ]; do
  say "please set your homepod to be only available on your network. seriously, there's a pandemic on - you're not having guests over that are streaming music."
  sleep 5
done

japtor
Oct 28, 2005
I'm looking through settings and I have no clue if that's an option or not :psyduck:

Although disconnecting from my wifi network or turning it off I can't connect to it, so maybe it's just the Apple TVs that do it and you're seeing those (and you just got me to double check my settings on that too...). Or is your apartment complex all on a single wifi/LAN type of setup together?

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon
Nope separate networks, and they’re HomePod icons (and some Apple TVs). When set to open they appear via Bluetooth.

Less Fat Luke fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Dec 12, 2020

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon
In that example all the neighbours ones disappear when I disable Bluetooth but seeing as I have Bluetooth devices that’s not a great fix.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Less Fat Luke posted:

In that example all the neighbours ones disappear when I disable Bluetooth but seeing as I have Bluetooth devices that’s not a great fix.

Huh? You can’t play to Homepods via Bluetooth right?

Can you see any of these devices on the home app?

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

wooger posted:

Huh? You can’t play to Homepods via Bluetooth right?

Can you see any of these devices on the home app?
Might be a proximity based discovery thing going on there with Bluetooth, but again I don’t see a way of turning that off for my HomePod minis at least (Apple TV seems to have the right options for it).

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon
AppleTVs and HomePod clients can do discovery via Bluetooth. My Home app only shows devices on my network. My system is set to only be usable on my network but if you enable the following setting they will indeed appear in the Airplay target selection box via Bluetooth discovery if you are not on their wifi network:



This is from the Home app settings. So what I'm saying is that my neighbours that are visible are using the "Everyone" settings, sometimes (but rarely) with the "require password" option.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005
Ahh thanks, I knew I've seen it somewhere before but couldn't find it cause I was looking under the HomePods themselves rather than the whole Home setting.

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon
Yeah. Pretty sure there's no loving solution to this, there's no way Apple is going to let me blacklist foreign devices on all my systems. Goddamn what an annoying problem to have.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Less Fat Luke posted:

Yeah. Pretty sure there's no loving solution to this, there's no way Apple is going to let me blacklist foreign devices on all my systems. Goddamn what an annoying problem to have.

Can you intercom to them?

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon

wooger posted:

Can you intercom to them?
Nope, just Airplay but I have had success getting one of them to go away with the previously posted "say" shell script!

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Less Fat Luke posted:

Nope, just Airplay but I have had success getting one of them to go away with the previously posted "say" shell script!

Can you airplay a recording of you explaining the situation to them?

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

Vince MechMahon posted:

Can you airplay a recording of you explaining the situation to them?
I’d say keep air playing porn cause I want to see enough complaints about it to eventually reach the big Apple blogs and I’ll be like "hey I remember that guy!" But he could get in trouble I guess.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

japtor posted:

I’d say keep air playing porn cause I want to see enough complaints about it to eventually reach the big Apple blogs and I’ll be like "hey I remember that guy!" But he could get in trouble I guess.

Ok just play Nickelback, or maybe the RickRoll song then.

Or the Rush Limbaugh radio show.

Possibilities are endless.

I assume this wasn’t found in testing because all Apple employees are loaded and live in detached houses in palatial estates, rather than apartments where you’re 3 feet from the next AirPod over.

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon

Vince MechMahon posted:

Can you airplay a recording of you explaining the situation to them?

That was my first attempt (the above posted script).

LODGE NORTH
Jul 30, 2007

If I get a HomePod, and I have a house full of Apple products, can I use the HomePod/Hey Siri on that HomePod to control things (namely music) on other devices? Right now, I have an iMac as the central hub in my whole array of devices. I push things from this to AirPlay to the TV, my downloads are more or less stored all on here etc etc. I also have my ~really nice speakers~ plugged into it, but the HomePod would be elsewhere in the apartment.

If I say, to the HomePod, "Hey Siri, play King's Dead by Kendrick Lamar *on my iMac*" would it then play the song on my iMac and thus through the speakers?

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

LODGE NORTH posted:

If I get a HomePod, and I have a house full of Apple products, can I use the HomePod/Hey Siri on that HomePod to control things (namely music) on other devices? Right now, I have an iMac as the central hub in my whole array of devices. I push things from this to AirPlay to the TV, my downloads are more or less stored all on here etc etc. I also have my ~really nice speakers~ plugged into it, but the HomePod would be elsewhere in the apartment.

If I say, to the HomePod, "Hey Siri, play King's Dead by Kendrick Lamar *on my iMac*" would it then play the song on my iMac and thus through the speakers?

It’s generally does a good job between devices, but I have never asked a HomePod to play something on my Mac. Otherwise it is excellent.

To play on the Mac and HomePod at the same time I think you start on the Mac and use airplay to mirror onto the HomePod. Unless someone knows a better way, in which case I want to know about it too!

OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001
If I set a timer on my HomePod, will it show up on my Apple Watch? I'm thinking about switching from Alexa to Siri, and the one thing I'll miss* is having my timers show up on my Echo Wall Clock. But if they showed up on my watch, that would probably be even better?


*I'd also miss Spotify, but I'm not gonna pull the trigger until I can get Spotify on HomePod so the point is moot.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

I don’t think so. It’s device-specific I believe.

Even the watch and phone don’t share timers.

beefnoodle
Aug 7, 2004

IGNORE ME! I'M JUST AN OLD WET RAG

Henrik Zetterberg posted:



Even the watch and phone don’t share timers.

They do. I use them for cooking all the time.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

beefnoodle posted:

They do. I use them for cooking all the time.

Ok I’m going to have to revise that after using it for..... cooking today.

If you start it on your phone, the phone and watch both buzz.
If you start it on your watch, I think only the watch buzzes.

beefnoodle
Aug 7, 2004

IGNORE ME! I'M JUST AN OLD WET RAG

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Ok I’m going to have to revise that after using it for..... cooking today.

If you start it on your phone, the phone and watch both buzz.
If you start it on your watch, I think only the watch buzzes.

Try starting it from Siri on your watch. Both should count down.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Got a pair of homepod minis for xmas and I really like em. They're so tiny! I wish the power adapter was more flush though, jeez. Common complaint I'd imagine.

It really shows how clunky the Sonos controls are especially on the non-homekit enabled models, with their terrible app. At least I can use the newer ones with homekit and pair older ones to the newer ones, but it is annoying the volume controls are not integrated to work with both (not an apple problem)

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

priznat posted:

I wish the power adapter was more flush though, jeez. Common complaint I'd imagine.
You can change the power brick out at least, I just wish you could change the cable too.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Will a 5W block work?

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Will a 5W block work?

No I think it has to be a 20W.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

priznat posted:

No I think it has to be a 20W.
I think specifically it's 9V/2.22A, so anything that supports 9V/3A should work. Debating getting either of these for the one in my kitchen:

https://www.amazon.com/Charger-RAVPower-Delivery-Compatible-Nintendo/dp/B083BRKMJQ/
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Delivery-Charger-PowerPort-Compact/dp/B07W3VTKN2/

And maybe some multi port USB brick (for phone and watch charging too) for my bedside one like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Anker-Premium-Desktop-Delivery/dp/B072K5ZJXF/

(There's a bunch more right angle adapters and multi port bricks but I don't know if they'll burn my house down)

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priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
I just recall reading an article that if you use less than 20W the light turns an angry orange :ohdear:

https://www.macworld.com/article/3599808/homepod-mini-review.html

quote:

Compounding things is the other end of the cord. The HomePod mini’s cord doesn’t have a plug like the original HomePod. Rather, it ships with Apple’s bulky 20W USB-C power adapter, but any 20W USB-C charger will suffice. Anything less than that (including the power banks I tried as well as a Thunderbolt 3 port on a MacBook) will render the HomePod useless with an ominous pulsing orange light at the top.

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