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ROCK THE HOUSE M.D.
Oct 9, 2003

I've got a case of malt liquor stashed in the trunk, Mr. Marvin Gaye on the CD. We are gonna get all the way down.


I've had a migraine and have been vomiting all day, so I felt like poo poo during this draft and it did not turn out how I would have liked... so tell me how lovely my team is! I realize the pitching is... not good. I'm gonna be hunting for saves on the wire. I told my buddy I'd do this draft with him, but I really just didn't care about this draft at all so I did things I normally wouldn't do, and I messed up in a few places. It's probably not as bad as I think it is.

12 team h2h 5x5

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Moneyball
Jul 11, 2005

It's a problem you think we need to explain ourselves.
Not a fan of AVG?

ROCK THE HOUSE M.D.
Oct 9, 2003

I've got a case of malt liquor stashed in the trunk, Mr. Marvin Gaye on the CD. We are gonna get all the way down.


Moneyball posted:

Not a fan of AVG?

I know, right? By the time I took Odor I was basically punting. Like I said, I botched it. :shrug:

Moneyball
Jul 11, 2005

It's a problem you think we need to explain ourselves.
Is Fernando Tatis Jr fantasy relevant and why is someone offering him to me for Matt Olson?

abelwingnut
Dec 23, 2002


he could be up, yea. he’s having a monster spring. if he continues it into aa or aaa, not sure where the padres are sending him, then look out. could be up in june or so if all goes right

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

Jingleheimer posted:

Anyone have an opinion on this? I'm terrible at making judgement calls like this and I'm about to submit my keepers.


And does anyone have any good team names? I'm having trouble coming up with something creative this year.

Bartolo's Colon

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
Here's ESPN 12 team roto auction. I'm actually pretty pleased with how this went; I punted pitchers hard but wound up with something reasonable.





I feel like I could move an OF for an SP, any thoughts?

ROCK THE HOUSE M.D.
Oct 9, 2003

I've got a case of malt liquor stashed in the trunk, Mr. Marvin Gaye on the CD. We are gonna get all the way down.


bewbies posted:

Here's ESPN 12 team roto auction. I'm actually pretty pleased with how this went; I punted pitchers hard but wound up with something reasonable.





I feel like I could move an OF for an SP, any thoughts?

I'm not sure I agree with your last sentiment, I don't see 5 full-time OF on your team. Jose Martinez is nowhere near guaranteed playing time (I'd be surprised if he gets 450 ABs) and Brantley is made of glass.

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe

ROCK THE HOUSE M.D. posted:

I'm not sure I agree with your last sentiment, I don't see 5 full-time OF on your team. Jose Martinez is nowhere near guaranteed playing time (I'd be surprised if he gets 450 ABs) and Brantley is made of glass.

You're right, but everyone's OFs in a 12 team league with 5 OF slots are pretty rough. My general experience is that OFs post-draft are at kind of a premium when some guy realises his #2 is melky cabrera or something so I'm hoping I can snag a bargain on a decent SP in exchange for Yelich or Cespedes. Former Elite Superstars Felix Hernandez and CC Sabathia are on waivers though.....

abelwingnut
Dec 23, 2002


obp league, we also count slg. $225 budget.

keep one:

olson at $5 this year, $10 next
bird at $5, $10 next
k davis at $13, $20 next

i think i know who i’m going with, but curious what you all think

SouthShoreSamurai
Apr 28, 2009

It is a tale,
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.


Fun Shoe
I'm going Krush there, depending on team composition. He's gonna hit 35-40 HR. I think Bird is going to be a stud, so keeping him at $5 is a gamble worth taking, too.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

SouthShoreSamurai posted:

I'm going Krush there, depending on team composition. He's gonna hit 35-40 HR. I think Bird is going to be a stud, so keeping him at $5 is a gamble worth taking, too.

I lean Krush too, but it depends on how you think the rest of the league will value Bird.

abelwingnut
Dec 23, 2002


assumed keepers:

bryant 40
betts 40
kimbrel 9
acuna 5
c taylor 5

i would expect bird to go for around $10-$13 in the draft, davis around $16. it’s why i lean toward bird between those two.

but i honestly think olson is the better hitter of all three. highest avg exit velocity (6th highest in the league, davis 9th), no injury history whatsover, pedigree of power and patience.

maybe i should let c taylor go and pick two of these guys, but man, he looks real good too, especially considering the death of sb. he’s secretly incredible with sustainable peripherals

ugh

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
I got Matt Olson and Matt Chapman confused and thought Olson had the hand injury.

Given those guesses on price, I would switch my vote to Olson or Bird, maybe even leaning Olson?

I'm also a big C Taylor fan, so I wouldn't say drop him for either of them.

abelwingnut
Dec 23, 2002


where will bird bat in the lineup? will he sit against lefties?

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Abel Wingnut posted:

where will bird bat in the lineup? will he sit against lefties?

Who knows where he'll bat, but it may be in between Stanton and Judge or one of them and Sanchez, which is a pretty great place to be for a whole host of stats. It's a very righty-heavy lineup, so he may work himself into the heart just to break it up.

He shouldn't sit against lefties. I know it seems like there's a perennial "He's gonna get platooned!" tag attached to him but they let him bat against Andrew fuckin' Miller in the ALDS last year and he took him deep. There was lots of concern about Didi's ability to hit lefties but the Yankees just let him keep getting PAs and he raked last year. More importantly, the Yankees don't really have anybody I see as an "everyday replacement" for him. Lind is also a lefty, and I don't think they'll want to carry Tyler Austin on the 25-man since he's 1B only and they have more flexible bench guys around.

The biggest thing with Bird is if you think he'll finally have a healthy season. I don't see anything but an injury really loving with his value this year, the Yankees want him to be The Guy at 1B.

ScottyJSno
Aug 16, 2010

日本が大好きです!
So I am doing a h2h points league on ESPN for the first time in 15 or so years. I need some basic info please. So if I understand this right it will be like fantasy football and the team with the most points at the end of the week wins right?

Also how will the day to day lineup stuff work?

The Settings says "Daily - Lock Individually at Scheduled Gametime" so I can change my line up every day and get the points from the locked in players, but if I have a guy like Ian Happ who is listed at 4 different positions does he have to be in the right slot? Like If I play him as a 2B but Maddon starts him at CF will I be out luck that day?

And what does game played maximum mean for pitchers? It is listed as 12 games started. Is that during the week only 12 games can be started by my Ps all other started games will not count towards my points?

And if anybody has for fun league they need a extra for I would be down.

Thanks in advance!

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
Roster locking generally means you can't make add/drop decisions once the first game of the day starts. Individual players already on your roster can still be moved around. And no, you don't have to guess where Happ will be playing, as long as he's starting on your fantasy team. That's what makes guys with multi-position eligibility so valuable.

You should ask the commissioner of your league for the details on stuff you're unsure of, though.

Moneyball
Jul 11, 2005

It's a problem you think we need to explain ourselves.
One more person for the set and watch league.

abelwingnut
Dec 23, 2002


Inspector_666 posted:

Who knows where he'll bat, but it may be in between Stanton and Judge or one of them and Sanchez, which is a pretty great place to be for a whole host of stats. It's a very righty-heavy lineup, so he may work himself into the heart just to break it up.

He shouldn't sit against lefties. I know it seems like there's a perennial "He's gonna get platooned!" tag attached to him but they let him bat against Andrew fuckin' Miller in the ALDS last year and he took him deep. There was lots of concern about Didi's ability to hit lefties but the Yankees just let him keep getting PAs and he raked last year. More importantly, the Yankees don't really have anybody I see as an "everyday replacement" for him. Lind is also a lefty, and I don't think they'll want to carry Tyler Austin on the 25-man since he's 1B only and they have more flexible bench guys around.

The biggest thing with Bird is if you think he'll finally have a healthy season. I don't see anything but an injury really loving with his value this year, the Yankees want him to be The Guy at 1B.

yea, like you said a couple of weeks ago, his injuries aren't chronic. he doesn't seem like an injury risk to me at all

think i'm going with taylor and bird. sb are the rarest hitting stat and they're only getting rarer, so taylor and his great gig atop the dodgers' lineup is a must-keep in my mind. davis is great, but there's not much more upside. he's a known quantity. the other two are cheaper and could display similar power. still not sure on bird over olson, but him batting 2nd or 4th would make me giddy. we're a largely northeast league, so hopefully i can get olson for cheaper than what bird would cost in the draft. i think so.

Moneyball
Jul 11, 2005

It's a problem you think we need to explain ourselves.
Yahoo seems to love Chris Taylor (at least in their "this league's settings value" ranking) while ESPN isn't so bullish. I wound up taking him in this first draft of the year, trying to see how things would go in a league that actually matters:

C: Manny Pina
1B: Ryan Zimmerman
2B: DJ Lamahieu
3B: Jose Ramirez
SS: Chris Taylor
OF: Nelson Cruz, Domingo Santana, Tommy Pham
UT: Eddie Rosario, Matt Olson
BN: Yoan Moncada, Matt Kemp

SP: Chris Sale, Corey Kluber, Kyle Hendricks, Garret Richards, Mike Clevinger, Michael Fulmer
RP: Chris Devenski, Chad Green, Josh Hader, Carl Edwards, Emilio Pagan

Overall pretty balanced with no real standouts on offense. Counting stats may be middle of the pack. Top of the line ratios and strikeouts- just need to scour the wire for saves

abelwingnut
Dec 23, 2002


another thing with taylor. espn took his ss eligibility. no idea why. think they also took rizzo's 2b

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Abel Wingnut posted:

sb are the rarest hitting stat and they're only getting rarer,

I'm really torn on SB when it comes to H2H. Nobody steals bases anymore, so going out of your way to get that stat is almost useless, since getting 3 in a week is probably enough to win it for you. It's somehow the most valuable and also least valuable stat a guy can have.

Guys like Trea Turner or Chris Taylor are still way up on my radar because they can produce in other ways, too, but I have 0 interest in somebody like Billy Butler HAMILTON.

Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Mar 7, 2018

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it

Inspector_666 posted:

I'm really torn on SB when it comes to H2H. Nobody steals bases anymore, so going out of your way to get that stat is almost useless, since getting 3 in a week is probably enough to win it for you. It's somehow the most valuable and also least valuable stat a guy can have.

Guys like Trea Turner or Chris Taylor are still way up on my radar because they can produce in other ways, too, but I have 0 interest in somebody like Billy Butler.

Frankly, I would be impressed if Billy Butler got you stolen bases.

In H2H, the more categories there are, the more I devalue the category. I play in a 7x7 where I physically go in and pull the EV of steals out of their fangraphs projections to rejigger the rankings (after weighting the batting average) to make my own projections

I call it MASHERS (marginalize all slap-hitting, extraneous running specialists :3: )

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Spoeank posted:

Frankly, I would be impressed if Billy Butler got you stolen bases.

:downs:


To be fair, I also have no interest in drafting either Billy Hamilton or Billy Butler.

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe

ScottyJSno posted:

So I am doing a h2h points league on ESPN for the first time in 15 or so years. I need some basic info please. So if I understand this right it will be like fantasy football and the team with the most points at the end of the week wins right?

Also how will the day to day lineup stuff work?

The Settings says "Daily - Lock Individually at Scheduled Gametime" so I can change my line up every day and get the points from the locked in players, but if I have a guy like Ian Happ who is listed at 4 different positions does he have to be in the right slot? Like If I play him as a 2B but Maddon starts him at CF will I be out luck that day?

And what does game played maximum mean for pitchers? It is listed as 12 games started. Is that during the week only 12 games can be started by my Ps all other started games will not count towards my points?

And if anybody has for fun league they need a extra for I would be down.

Thanks in advance!

Hello fellow ESPN points player! You have found the best fantasy baseball format.

Points leagues value players fairly close to their real life performance, which is why I like it. Unlike categories, you compile points regardless of how they're scored, so your strategy shouldn't account for any specific category (ie, steals). You also get points for good things like walks and extra base hits, unlike obsolete fantasy formats that reward poo poo like batting average.

Lots of people aren't quite used to points formats yet, so there's usually some good value in the top and middle of drafts. My normal points strategy is to target OBP guys, and let the rest of things fall as they will. The last several years in my BIG MONEY league I've drafted both Votto and Santana which has consistently been a good thing.

Pitchers in points leagues are even less valuable than their roto counterparts. I used to target ACES high in the draft as someone like Randy Johnson could singlehandedly win you a league, but pitchers like that don't really exist anymore. That said, the last couple of years I've gone back to using first round pick on an elite pitcher, as they almost always lead the league in total points (this year and last I drafted Kershaw with my first) and often fall to late in the first (Kershaw went to me at 10). Target high-K, high IP starters. Outside of finding a good #1, I'm of the opinion that pitching can pretty much be covered by waivers and relievers. I drafted like 5 closers for the rest of my staff, and will stream the remaining 3 SP spots. 2 start SPs are a good place to start with streaming.

bewbies fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Mar 7, 2018

abelwingnut
Dec 23, 2002


rays may go to a 4-man rotation

man, i really wish archer woupd learn a third pitch

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
Aren't the Angels going to a six man rotation?

Someone please bring back the failed Tony LaRussa every guy pitches 3 innings strat.

UZR IS BULLSHIT
Jan 25, 2004
Keeping Jose Ramirez in exchange for a 13th rounder, and I have the second overall pick this year. So I’ll be starting off Altuve/Ramirez. Next two picks are 23&26. Should I plan for 2 SP, 2 OF, or 1 of each?

abelwingnut
Dec 23, 2002


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Moneyball
Jul 11, 2005

It's a problem you think we need to explain ourselves.
Tue, Mar 6

Rangers signed RHP Tim Lincecum to a one-year, $1 million contract.

Advice: The deal was agreed to last week and then finalized Tuesday after Lincecum arrived at Rangers camp in Arizona and passed the necessary physical. The veteran right-hander didn't pitch anywhere professionally in 2017 and posted a hideous 9.16 ERA and 2.37 WHIP in nine starts with the Angels in 2016, but he has regained some velocity on his fastball through intense winter workouts at the Driveline Baseball Research Lab and will look to revitalize his career in the Rangers' bullpen. He could even compete for saves.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Bad starters become good relievers all the time

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
Remember when Wade Davis was a garbage starting pitcher for both the Rays and the Royals?

I once got excited to watch Andrew Miller start for the Tigers :(

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

Asking one more time - anyone interested in joining a leaugue me and my friends do every year? For the first time, we are doing a keeper league and it's a $50 buy-in. We are looking for more players - 8 confirmed teams signed up, with 2 or 3 more in the works, but we want to do 14, and at least 12 to get going. It's ROTO.

https://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/4698/invitation?key=4b20e28d11dbfebf&soc_trk=lnk&ikey=2e4727b0f12be2ba

boroda
Jul 26, 2007


нет усов
Anybody interested in a 15x15 Yahoo roto league with statistics aimed at lowering predictability as much as possible? (Ever wanted to care about Jacoby Ellsbury's 80 catcher interference tool?) Here are the stats I've got so far:

Batting: At Bats, Hits, Sacrifice Hits, Sacrifice Flies, Intentional Walks, Hit By Pitch, Strikeouts, Ground Into Double Play, Assists, Errors, Net Stolen Bases, Hitting For The Cycle, Grand Slams, Outfield Assists, Catcher's Interference

Pitching: Wins, Losses, Complete Games, Saves, Total Batters Faced, Intentional Walks, Wild Pitches, Balks, Ground Into Double Play, Holds, Pitch Count, Triples Allowed, Pickoffs, No Hitters, Blown Saves

Moneyball
Jul 11, 2005

It's a problem you think we need to explain ourselves.
:yikes:

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

boroda posted:

Anybody interested in a 15x15 Yahoo roto league with statistics aimed at lowering predictability as much as possible? (Ever wanted to care about Jacoby Ellsbury's 80 catcher interference tool?) Here are the stats I've got so far:

Batting: At Bats, Hits, Sacrifice Hits, Sacrifice Flies, Intentional Walks, Hit By Pitch, Strikeouts, Ground Into Double Play, Assists, Errors, Net Stolen Bases, Hitting For The Cycle, Grand Slams, Outfield Assists, Catcher's Interference

Pitching: Wins, Losses, Complete Games, Saves, Total Batters Faced, Intentional Walks, Wild Pitches, Balks, Ground Into Double Play, Holds, Pitch Count, Triples Allowed, Pickoffs, No Hitters, Blown Saves

You got so preoccupied with whether or not you could you didn't stop to think if you should

resident
Dec 22, 2005

WE WERE ALL UP IN THAT SHIT LIKE A MUTHAFUCKA. IT'S CLEANER THAN A BROKE DICK DOG.

Nm you got it

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
So this was a team I drafted.

C- McCann
1B- Goldschmidt
2B- Cano
3B- Kyle Seager
SS- Bogaerts
OF- Judge
OF- Ozuna
OF- Schwarber (couldn't resist)
UTL- Lamb
UTL- Acuna
BN- Arcia
BN-Thames
BN- Carlos Gonzalez

SP- DeGrom
SP- Darvish
RP- Hand
RP- Morrow
P- Ohtani
P- Pomeranz
P- Berrios
P- Bauer
BN- Lamet
BN- Gioloto

I have to trade some power for pitching.

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Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.
Had to work during the Goon auction draft today and the AI drafted the worst possible team for me (my fault for not setting prices). For some reason, it didn't use $101 of the $260 budget. It waited until the 65th pick to draft someone (Justin Turner for $20).

My team is such poo poo. Enjoy the free wins!

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