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I am finally playing Outer Worlds and predictably I think it is amazing and have no idea what people dislike, but I have also only been to two planets, and I know it being short and shallow is apparently much of the issue. So maybe I am already like halfway done and do not even know it?!
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Small part of me still wants a Fallout game set within a week after the bombs drop. The initial chaos and danger present would be interesting if done right. And heck, it'd make sense here why there's still so many unlooted buildings. Seeing the very start of some new factions in whatever state the game took place in would be interesting, your character there to see it all happen rather than be an outsider not knowing jack poo poo about anything.
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Oct 28, 2020 02:35
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The amount of loot is honestly my single biggest pet peeve about virtually any post-apocalyptic game. It is not like there would not still be interesting and valuable things to possess, it is that someone would already have collected them in all but cases of the most remote and dangerous locations. Making the focus of the early game being cobbling together absurd improvised armor and weapons would probably be extremely fun, not to mention make far more sense in a world 200 years removed from theft laws But I agree, a Fallout game set in a world where people were just starting to realize all the old rules no longer apply would be amazing too.
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Oct 28, 2020 02:52
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ive kind of wondered if fallout 5 wont actually be a continuation of 4 but rather a further offshoot of the earlier timeline of 76 but who knows eventually id want to do new york but maybe not until the engine can give us an entirely urban map
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Oct 28, 2020 02:56
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Dr. Quarex posted:The amount of loot is honestly my single biggest pet peeve about virtually any post-apocalyptic game. It is not like there would not still be interesting and valuable things to possess, it is that someone would already have collected them in all but cases of the most remote and dangerous locations. Making the focus of the early game being cobbling together absurd improvised armor and weapons would probably be extremely fun, not to mention make far more sense in a world 200 years removed from theft laws One thing i liked in particular about FO2 was that energy weapons were this strange, rare old world thing that you wouldn't find just anywhere. There's a whole plot thread that teases them, only for those to turn out to be the dinkiest type of EW in the game. the late availability of EWs fucks with character builds somewhat, but fallout is one series imo that shouldn't make (too many) story/lore concessions for the sake of gameplay. something i realize rope kid didn't like.
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Forgot a couple things when I was typing that out earlier, for a theoretical game that ticks more boxes for me. No more grocery stores full of food after 200 years. Most of the untouched stuff from before the war is in locations that most people wouldn't want to deal with, guarded by robots and/or turrets, or nests of big nasty creatures like Yao Gui or Deathclaws. Less serious threats might have some stuff, but people would be more willing to brave geckos or molerats to find an ammo stash. On the other hand stuff gathered by others already, in stashes that have been forgotten, or in the camps of Raiders or Raider equivalents would still be common. Your home base matters. You start out with player housing from your vault's settlement, and you can get other housing in other settlements as well. You are encouraged to use them because those places are safe, while if you just decide to use some house or something you found out in the wastes you might come back to find someone has looted your stuff the same way you do other peoples'. For gameplay reasons you would then get a quest to track that fucker down and get your stuff back, but they might be using it on you, going through your chems and using that missile launcher you had hidden for a rainy day. Your vault allying with different groups would be useful to you gameplay wise as well, the place develops over time, adding services and potentially even perks depending on who you ally with. Ally with the Randian build happy faction? Your vault (and by extension you) learn to find more stuff when looking through locations, because that broken pencil you would have overlooked before might just be what you need to make something later. Ally with the Cannibal vault? Not only can you cannibalize, doing so in combat might make enemies run in fear. Out of gameplay this would also have an effect on how your vault home sees the world, the culture exchange causing shifts in viewpoints over time. Less active living areas looking like a bomb went off in them a few hours ago, get rid of the environmental skeletons and all the burnt pages on the floor. Less huge junk piles in the middle of a city, more wall murals done by currently living people trying to spice up that empty featureless wall. Hell have it be a plot point that in some places they gathered up all the dead from the last 200 years and gave them proper burials. Mostly I don't want to see everyone living in absolute squalor. Have new buildings with their own distinct look, separate from old world stuff. A different construction method that doesn't look exactly like old white picket fences and nuclear family homes, and also not like the shanty garbage bolted together that looks like it would fall apart weekly. Something that shows there is a new, permanent presence in the wastes. Something that means people aren't just squatting in ruins as a first choice. Also, just because it tickled my fancy as an unarmed player who feels done dirty by FO4 compared to melee builds, have the technocrats be able to give you some crazy custom power armor with mobility enhancing parts and massive boosts to unarmed because 'you feel you punch too slow? what if... more arms to punch with?  '
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Oct 28, 2020 03:35
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In FO4 I am up to the point where I have to make the 'Thing' and I know things split after that. Are there things I really need to take care of beforehand specifically? I know this likely cuts me off from certain faction things. Can I save the Far Harbor until after, or should I do it beforehand?
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Oct 29, 2020 01:32
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Whelp, I started off with a stealth rifleman build with the intent of moving into stealth commando, but given I've got poo poo internet, estimated 180 ping to closest servers likely due to routing, survivability is super low against mobs. Just hit level 48 and going to start the arduous respec into PA heavy gunner.
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Oct 29, 2020 01:45
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I took a big break after playing at launch and coming back whenever I pick up technical data I don't get the quest trigger, and I don't have forbidden knowledge listed (but unticked) on my pipboy. Is there any way to fix this? Because I'm pretty sure I was still missing a few of the rewards.
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Oct 29, 2020 03:58
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OgNar posted:In FO4 I am up to the point where I have to make the 'Thing' and I know things split after that. You get a very clear warning whenever you're going to lock in with a faction. Also you can do Far Harbor whenever, it's not tied into the main plot, but make sure you bring Nick with you.
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Halman posted:I took a big break after playing at launch and coming back whenever I pick up technical data I don't get the quest trigger, and I don't have forbidden knowledge listed (but unticked) on my pipboy. Is there any way to fix this? Because I'm pretty sure I was still missing a few of the rewards. I've seen a claim that the quest is currently disabled.
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Oct 29, 2020 04:08
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Taerkar posted:I've seen a claim that the quest is currently disabled. Oh good, that's actually a lot less infuriating than it just being broken for me
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OgNar posted:In FO4 I am up to the point where I have to make the 'Thing' and I know things split after that. if you mean the teleporter you still have a bit to go before point of no return and can continue playing all three (four) factions along if you want to do a "peaceful" ending (everyone but the institute around) my goto on various factions is this BOS: feel free to do any quests up to from within/outside the wire when BOS asks you to hack the institute Railroad: do operation undercover but betray the institute at some point after the battle for bunker hill either telling father off or killing him w/e Minutemen: then you can use the minutemen to raid the institute and all factions are fine with each other and all their radiant quests and stores are still accessible etc doing this downsides are can't get danse's perk, which is whatever, or very likely recruit X6-88 as a permanent companion which you can only do going real deep in the institute questline, both will either turn hostile on you or stop talking to you if you destroy either their respective factions so w/e otherwise you want to pick explicitly one faction the game will warn you before the point of no return far harbor can be done before the MQ is over or after, though your faction choices may change some dialgoue/options during it in the post game i will say far harbor is probably the best part of the game imo edit: you can do every quest for every faction before the end of "act 2" (building the thing) and then not do any other quests for them after until dealing with the institute and you're fine still, its just the act 3 quests that can veer factions into opposing each other Halman posted:I took a big break after playing at launch and coming back whenever I pick up technical data I don't get the quest trigger, and I don't have forbidden knowledge listed (but unticked) on my pipboy. Is there any way to fix this? Because I'm pretty sure I was still missing a few of the rewards. apparently its disabled until next months update with some BoS showing up and you will then turn in the stuff to an npc instead of a cubby hole Berke Negri fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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Oct 29, 2020 05:16
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Thank you, exactly what I needed.
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BOS vs Railroad specifically locks in after the Danse quest, so don't talk to Kellis. If you do, then PAM shuts down and I think it borks your progress with them. If I'm not mistaken there is a way of sequence breaking that gets three factions alive with BOS ending, but I've never done it. What's the recs on legendary perks in 76? Got a ways to go but "what rads" + melee/unarmed vanguard seems pretty good, or should I plan on farming unyielding/bloodied. Also, What's the longest distance shotgun - and is it viable vs SB fliers or should I spec to heavy at some point?
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Oct 29, 2020 19:08
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76 chat, how do I get my ammo economy under control? I'm about level 30 so I don't have the full range of scrounging perks and I've basically hit into a crisis. I've been cycling weapons every so often for the whole game, but the last few levels my supply has really been draining and now I'm running out and switching mid fight a lot. I've straight up run out of ammo for my combat shotgun and combat rifle and have had to go back to a crappy hunting rifle to chew through my .308s. Scorched are the only things I've found that consistently feel at all profitable to fight, but farming them is way slower than the drain from fighting super mutants, ghouls, or animals, and I've tried gathering lead to craft but every spot the internet points me to is totally empty 95% of the time, before I even consider than I'm starting to get low on the other components.
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most people sell ammo for a cap a piece, which can help you early game when you need a few hundred (or thousand) otherwise it's mostly about grabbing the ammosmith perk under agility at level 34 and ranking that up, as well as getting super duper at level 50 and starting to level up the legendary perk ammo factory at the same time I know daily ops are recommended for level 50 as well, but I've run through lower level dudes in there and it's an amazing place to generate tons and tons of ammo you can also find plans to rechamber some weapons to .50 cal which means you can craft 100x rounds a pop without perks
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Deformed Church posted:76 chat, how do I get my ammo economy under control? I'm about level 30 so I don't have the full range of scrounging perks and I've basically hit into a crisis. I've been cycling weapons every so often for the whole game, but the last few levels my supply has really been draining and now I'm running out and switching mid fight a lot. I've straight up run out of ammo for my combat shotgun and combat rifle and have had to go back to a crappy hunting rifle to chew through my .308s. do daily ops. join daily ops teams and let the high levels carry you.
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Oct 29, 2020 22:47
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Daily Ops start at lvl 50.
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Taerkar posted:Daily Ops start at lvl 50.
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That’s the recommended level, you can join a team and daily op at any level. Just stimpack others and stand near the uplinks and try not to die, most people won’t give a poo poo.
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Deformed Church posted:76 chat, how do I get my ammo economy under control? I'm about level 30 so I don't have the full range of scrounging perks and I've basically hit into a crisis. I've been cycling weapons every so often for the whole game, but the last few levels my supply has really been draining and now I'm running out and switching mid fight a lot. I've straight up run out of ammo for my combat shotgun and combat rifle and have had to go back to a crappy hunting rifle to chew through my .308s. There are a few things that can help. Learn a few can chime locations and nab them every single time you pass by. Like there are 6 sets at the pleasant valley ski hotel area. The 3 everyone nabs going into the main building, then 3 over the road just to the north that almost nobody nabs. Each chime gives 9 tin cans, each tin can gives 1 steel and one lead. You build up some lead quick. Alternatively, post what platform you are on and some goon can probably shower you in whatever bullets you need. Elmnt80 fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Oct 30, 2020 |
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If you need ammo, just learn where some weight rooms are and pick all that poo poo up. There's a weight room outside the first town in the game, the hotel with a pool. There's a gym in the fire department and there's a gym in each of the nuclear bunkers.
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FO76: Is there any reason not to learn plans for weapons and armor? I've just hit level 60 and have just been learning everything I've come across, but I saw a reddit post saying not to learn weapons you don't want to get legendaries for from the purveyor? E: Also, is it possible for me to build an end-game build without using vats? I've decided to stick with stealth commando instead of switching to PA heavy because that would take too long, and don't have any legendary armor or weapons that complement that build yet, but I just can't get into vats or used to it and like aiming myself. I know vats has a ton of great perks like those that increase critical damage, gun fu, etc. e2: Also, something else i've been wondering, is there any point to me keeping multiple PA frames / armor as someone who is not speccing into a PA build? I've got like 8 frames taking up space in my stash and maybe 3-4 full sets sans helmets of pieces. Shrimp or Shrimps fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Oct 31, 2020 |
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I use PA semi frequently and only keep 2 suits on me. 1 suit of x-01 with emergency protocols for doing serious poo poo with, 1 suit of excavator for doing hauling and mining funtimes. Most of the time I just chill in my secret service armor since it alone puts me into diminishing returns territory for resists, but in the event that I need the tankiness or to run around in a nuke zone or otherwise irradiated hellscape I have the PA handy. T-65/Ultracite may give better or more optimal resists, but X-01 is easier to modify imo since you don't need bullion or to hope for rare plan drops from the sbq. A+ lazy option.
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Deformed Church posted:76 chat, how do I get my ammo economy under control? Do daily ops often. Join groups when they pop up. Most high levels wont care if you are low level. The best thing you can do is stay alive and stay at whatever site you are capping so it goes faster. You'll get about 200 rounds of whatever ammo you are using at the end plus whatever you pick up from corpses. Try and tag as many enemies as you can. If you hit them they drop more ammo.
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Shrimp or Shrimps posted:FO76: Is there any reason not to learn plans for weapons and armor? I've just hit level 60 and have just been learning everything I've come across, but I saw a reddit post saying not to learn weapons you don't want to get legendaries for from the purveyor? Crestfallen Poster fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Oct 31, 2020 |
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Elmnt80 posted:I use PA semi frequently and only keep 2 suits on me. 1 suit of x-01 with emergency protocols for doing serious poo poo with, 1 suit of excavator for doing hauling and mining funtimes. Most of the time I just chill in my secret service armor since it alone puts me into diminishing returns territory for resists, but in the event that I need the tankiness or to run around in a nuke zone or otherwise irradiated hellscape I have the PA handy. id also suggest maybe going t-51 since it has better ballistic resist than x-01, about as tricky to repair (which youll rarely if ever do) but people usually sell the mod plans for like 100 caps while x-01 mods i think? only come from the bunker vendor where they cost like 4000 caps a piece t-60 is a downgrade from both but really cheap to fix up with the same availability of mods too the progression tier going down basically with pros/cons T-65: Best resists all around/Requires heap of bullion for everything, ugly as heck T-51 Ultracite: Previously best in game all around/Some very rare mods, needs ultracite and other rare things to repair T-51: Very high Ballistic and Energy protection, okay radiation resists/Requires some rarer mats for repairs but less than ultracite X-01: Ok ballistic resists, great energy resists and radiation resists, unique helmet mod/ pricey to maintain, mods bought from npc vendors only T-60: Improved stats from T-45, cheap to repair/just kind of middle of the road T45/Raider: Roughly same statwise, typically babbys first power armor set. incredibly cheap to repair/Raider cant get jetpacks Excavator: +100 carry weight with the full set, can slap shocks on the legs to get up to +200, double mining yield bonus from the arms/Worst stats among armors, no jetpack Things to note: all power armors provide like a 40% damage reduction just being in the suit on top of whatever ballistic/energy protection they provide so you can really get away with just bringing whatever you like the look of best and still be ludicrously tanky edit: ive got a fully modded out suit of each type (two x-01s, one to use skins on, one with the default prototype skin) and I basically swap them out whatever my fashion mood of the day is and at most the lower tier stuff has me using a few more stimpacks otherwise. most important thing is getting calibrated shocks on each leg with whatever you go with to make up losing out on regular armor SPECIAL boosts and not having a backpack Berke Negri fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Oct 31, 2020 |
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Crestfallen Poster posted:You can't receive an item as a legendary drop (or from the Purveyor) if you can't craft it, so it's possible to game the system by deliberately not learning plans of things you're not interested in. Well, at least that explains why you would ever have a second character, to rectify the mistakes of learning how to craft the Commie Whacker
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Oct 31, 2020 03:36
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is that bug or a feature? (also wow)
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Yeah I've been toying with the idea of starting a PA heavy gunner char during the next double XP in Dec and I'll definitely not learn every plan I come across, lol.Elmnt80 posted:I use PA semi frequently and only keep 2 suits on me. 1 suit of x-01 with emergency protocols for doing serious poo poo with, 1 suit of excavator for doing hauling and mining funtimes. Most of the time I just chill in my secret service armor since it alone puts me into diminishing returns territory for resists, but in the event that I need the tankiness or to run around in a nuke zone or otherwise irradiated hellscape I have the PA handy. Thanks, I'll keep a set or two around then even though I'm not speccing into a PA-centric build. I kinda like just rolling around in power armor sometimes as well and making stomping noises everywhere I go. Berke Negri posted:id also suggest maybe going t-51 since it has better ballistic resist than x-01, about as tricky to repair (which youll rarely if ever do) but people usually sell the mod plans for like 100 caps while x-01 mods i think? only come from the bunker vendor where they cost like 4000 caps a piece Thanks that is super useful. Should I just scrap my raider and t45 stuff or sell it or leave it in a cigarette container at a train station or? Shrimp or Shrimps fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Oct 31, 2020 |
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I think that only applies to certain late game items and not the general stuff. I've gotten legendary drops for items I don't know how to make.
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Looks like Sim Settlements 2 dropped on the 30th; Anyone give it a go yet? Thinking of doing up a modded install of Fallout 4.
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chaosapiant posted:Looks like Sim Settlements 2 dropped on the 30th; Anyone give it a go yet? Thinking of doing up a modded install of Fallout 4. It's really, really good. It is very professional and worthy of being a DLC in its own right. The new characters are voiced pretty well and it adds quite a bit of new content and locations across the game world. The only two problems are that it just starts out slow and there are bugs in the game that are still being fixed as of the time I'm typing this. I don't recommend playing it with Survival mode enabled, either Heck the story in it is competent and makes sense. The lead character in the game also acknowledges that your character just had their entire world changed and has some sympathy for your plight unlike literally every other character in the game. Entorwellian fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Nov 1, 2020 |
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Shrimp or Shrimps posted:FO76: Is there any reason not to learn plans for weapons and armor? I've just hit level 60 and have just been learning everything I've come across, but I saw a reddit post saying not to learn weapons you don't want to get legendaries for from the purveyor? The only reason not to learn all blueprints is for the purveyor chances, but I think you have a ton pre-unlocked anyway that it doesn't matter in the end what you have learned. I think it's kinda silly in a game where you craft weapons. I've learned basically every blueprint and I don't plan to fix that by making another character. Post your build with https://nukesdragons.com/fallout76/perks so we can look at it. I would say you can do basically everything in the game with a completely random build except a few case scenarios that you couldnever even do or want to do in the first place. Damage perks surely would help but you can get by without them. You could also get by without having all the legendaries and then slowly acquire them. I like to think of fighting the SQB and the other boss as you are only like 1/20th or 1/8th of the group, there's no damage meters and people will most likely not call you out unless your obviously afk. If your not going to use the heavy armor there's no reason to keep it unless you want too or maybe are holding out for a power armor display for the camps that might happen but you could just farm them again or learn the PA recipes that drop. Rinkles posted:is that bug or a feature? I've been hoping that they add in an option to let you craft a legendary weapon of any blueprint you have learned with legendary modules from the puryevor, like you can with the wastelanders weapons, but haven't seen anything that would indicate that it would be coming. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Nov 1, 2020 |
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Entorwellian posted:It's really, really good. It is very professional and worthy of being a DLC in its own right. The new characters are voiced pretty well and it adds quite a bit of new content and locations across the game world. The only two problems are that it just starts out slow and there are bugs in the game that are still being fixed as of the time I'm typing this. I don't recommend playing it with Survival mode enabled, either drat, that’s all good news! Thanks! I’m gonna get my F4 installation setup and stable first with MO2 and then start dropping poo poo in, based around this mod.
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Entorwellian posted:I don't recommend playing it with Survival mode enabled, either Why is that?
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Taerkar posted:Why is that? Building the radio beacon tower didn't summon the Stranger for me still and the Workshop UI wasn't working for me in Survival mode. It might be patched now but after 3 tries in a row I stopped bothering and turned on Normal mode. Suddenly no bugs!
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