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syntaxrigger: Jul 7, 2011; Actually you owe me 6! But who's countin?

shaggar has another trigger besides bicycles and java

neat

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President Beep: Apr 30, 2009; i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

i've staffed public input meetings/charrettes before where a developer has planted employees strategically around the room to try and steer the general opinion of the attendees. it's what the savvy ones do.

# ? Aug 29, 2018 17:49

Improbable Lobster: Jan 6, 2012; What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.; Buglord

my bitter bi rival posted:

the ultra linux

# ? Aug 29, 2018 17:52

Cat Face Joe: Feb 20, 2005; goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes

Luigi Thirty posted:

https://twitter.com/erinscafe/status/1034816174184226817

CRISIS ACTORS

# ? Aug 29, 2018 17:54

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

Shaggar posted:

the doctor sure as poo poo isn't going to do anything, so you have analytics that chew through the data in the EMR and tell the idiot doc what to do.

what

how do the records know that the patient hasn't been controlling their blood sugar well

why wouldn't their doctor be able to quickly identify poorly-managed beetus

H.P. Hovercraft fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Aug 29, 2018

# ? Aug 29, 2018 18:13

syscall girl: Nov 7, 2009; by FactsAreUseless; Fun Shoe

syntaxrigger posted:

shaggar has another trigger besides bicycles and java

neat

cilantro?

# ? Aug 29, 2018 18:17

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

diabetic neuropathy has now been added after the entry for cilantro in shaggtrigg.xlsx

# ? Aug 29, 2018 18:18

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; by VideoGames; Salad Prong

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

why wouldn't their doctor be able to quickly identify poorly-managed beetus

have u ever dealt with old stubborn rear end doctors lol

# ? Aug 29, 2018 18:19

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

fishmech posted:

have u ever dealt with old stubborn rear end doctors lol

yeah but "my feet are covered in hideously infected cuts and i'm going blind" is really hard to miss even for the intake staff

tho granted stubborn rear end old patients are apparently frequently in denial about that stuff too

"ok old fruitloop breath i'm takin away your driver's license" is not something i'd wanna hear either

# ? Aug 29, 2018 18:23

mystes: May 31, 2006

Luigi Thirty posted:

https://twitter.com/erinscafe/status/1034816174184226817

quote:

and this guy stands up in the back and yells �ARE THE INTERNS GONNA FILL OUT THE MAIL-IN CARDS TOO, ONLY A HANDFUL OF US AREN�T BEING PAID TO BE HERE�

Lol.

# ? Aug 29, 2018 19:30

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

Shaggar posted:

some other legit uses of machine learning would be examining data to find common causes of both negative and positive outcomes and then using that as a basis for process changes.

actually youll find that its really just putting everything in a black box neural net and having it spit out dangerous treatment suggestions

# ? Aug 29, 2018 19:38

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
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quote:

In 2012, doctors at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center partnered with IBM to train Watson to diagnose and treat patients. But according to IBM documents dated from last summer, the supercomputer has freq[quote[uently given bad advice, like when it suggested a cancer patient with severe bleeding be given a drug that could cause the bleeding to worsen. (A spokesperson for Memorial Sloan Kettering said this suggestion was hypothetical and not inflicted on a real patient.)

�This product is a piece of s�,� one doctor at Jupiter Hospital in Florida told IBM executives, according to the documents. �We bought it for marketing and with hopes that you would achieve the vision. We can�t use it for most cases.�

The documents come from a presentation given by Andrew Norden, IBM Watson�s former deputy health chief, right before he left the company. In addition to showcasing customer dissatisfaction, they reveal problems with methods, too. Watson for Oncology was supposed to synthesize enormous amounts of data and come up with novel insights. But it turns out most of the data fed to it is hypothetical and not real patient data. That means the suggestions Watson made were simply based off the treatment preferences of the few doctors providing the data, not actual insights it gained from analyzing real cases.

According to IBM spokesperson Edward Barbani, Watson for Oncology started off by using real patient data. But this made it difficult to do updates each time the guidelines changed, so the scientists switched to using hypothetical cases. �Synthetic cases allow you to treat and train Watson on a variety of patient variables and conditions that might not be present in random patient samples, but are important to treatment recommendations,� he said.

beep boop administer 200cc of blood thinner to a patient suffering internal bleeding

# ? Aug 29, 2018 19:42

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

yeah but "my feet are covered in hideously infected cuts and i'm going blind" is really hard to miss even for the intake staff

tho granted stubborn rear end old patients are apparently frequently in denial about that stuff too

"ok old fruitloop breath i'm takin away your driver's license" is not something i'd wanna hear either

might be a bit extreme but my mom's pcp didn't notice her height decreasing with each visit. like, the entry on the chart was going down.

# ? Aug 29, 2018 19:42

ADINSX: Sep 9, 2003; Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

FMguru posted:

beep boop administer 200cc of blood thinner to a patient suffering internal bleeding

... kill all humans?

# ? Aug 29, 2018 19:46

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
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hobbesmaster posted:

might be a bit extreme but my mom's pcp didn't notice her height decreasing with each visit. like, the entry on the chart was going down.

how much are we talking? i mean its fairly normal to lose a couple inches or more as you get older

my grandma probably lost at least 6 from she turned 60 til she died at 88

# ? Aug 29, 2018 19:48

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; by VideoGames; Salad Prong

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

yeah but "my feet are covered in hideously infected cuts and i'm going blind" is really hard to miss even for the intake staff

tho granted stubborn rear end old patients are apparently frequently in denial about that stuff too

"ok old fruitloop breath i'm takin away your driver's license" is not something i'd wanna hear either

yeah and now think about how much more likely you are to have those sort of attitudes are in maine, and how much more common those people are there, and you see where shaggar's coming from on dumbass docs just not doing things right unless you actively force them

# ? Aug 29, 2018 19:52

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Krankenstyle posted:

how much are we talking? i mean its fairly normal to lose a couple inches or more as you get older

my grandma probably lost at least 6 from she turned 60 til she died at 88

correct. and when that happens to an older woman you're supposed to take certain actions

# ? Aug 29, 2018 19:53

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

like obviously the physician needs to be in the loop but physicians are insanely overworked and also human and i'm in favor of tools that make it easier for them to give high quality care.

# ? Aug 29, 2018 19:56

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

but gently caress working in the medical industry. did it for the last 2 years and never again.

# ? Aug 29, 2018 19:56

Cat Face Joe: Feb 20, 2005; goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes

DONT THREAD ON ME posted:

like obviously the physician needs to be in the loop but physicians are insanely overworked and also human and i'm in favor of tools that make it easier for them to give high quality care.

uuuhhh you're supposed to get a terrible disease, rack up tons of debt, and die. i don't know what this quality care thing is

# ? Aug 29, 2018 19:58

President Beep: Apr 30, 2009; i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

DONT THREAD ON ME posted:

but gently caress working in the medical industry. did it for the last 2 years and never again.

wow. disorderlies took two years to make???

# ? Aug 29, 2018 19:59

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
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hobbesmaster posted:

correct. and when that happens to an older woman you're supposed to take certain actions

??? i have never heard of this

e: apparently it has to do with osteoporosis which she was indeed diagnosed with at age 86. that didnt kill her though, she decided to stop eating cause she felt she was ready to go

# ? Aug 29, 2018 20:00

coffeetable: Feb 5, 2006; TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

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FMguru posted:

beep boop administer 200cc of blood thinner to a patient suffering internal bleeding

i am happy to hear that ML at IBM is as much of a garbage fire as i assumed it was

# ? Aug 29, 2018 20:22

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

Krankenstyle posted:

??? i have never heard of this

e: apparently it has to do with osteoporosis which she was indeed diagnosed with at age 86. that didnt kill her though, she decided to stop eating cause she felt she was ready to go

that's a pretty hardcore way to off yourself tbh, your grandma sounds cool

# ? Aug 29, 2018 20:24

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
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coffeetable posted:

i am happy to hear that ML at IBM is as much of a garbage fire as i assumed it was

*sees a machine answer a jeopardy question correctly*
yep, this thing is just about ready to replace all doctors, no question about it

# ? Aug 29, 2018 20:28

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

FMguru posted:

*sees a machine answer a jeopardy question correctly*
yep, this thing is just about ready to replace all doctors, no question about it

remember that time it thought toronto was a US city?

that, but ebola

# ? Aug 29, 2018 20:31

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

ate all the Oreos posted:

that's a pretty hardcore way to off yourself tbh, your grandma sounds cool

yea she was cool :unsmith:

# ? Aug 29, 2018 20:31

carry on then: Jul 10, 2010; by VideoGames
(and can't post for 10 years!)

cjs: there is a whiteboard in a conference room here with the phrase "icp quality sucks" and i lol a lil every time i see it

(icp is the initials for one of our products)

# ? Aug 29, 2018 20:33

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

carry on then posted:

cjs: there is a whiteboard in a conference room here with the phrase "icp quality sucks" and i lol a lil every time i see it

(icp is the initials for one of our products)

so you sell urinal spy cameras?

# ? Aug 29, 2018 20:36

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

ate all the Oreos posted:

remember that time it thought toronto was a US city?

that, but ebola

isn't there a toronto in ohio or something?

# ? Aug 29, 2018 21:07

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; by VideoGames; Salad Prong

if toronto isn't a us city why is it labeled that way in so many tv shows and movies? check mate, canada

# ? Aug 29, 2018 21:10

Improbable Lobster: Jan 6, 2012; What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.; Buglord

ate all the Oreos posted:

remember that time it thought toronto was a US city?

that, but ebola

ebola city, quebec

# ? Aug 29, 2018 21:30

Shifty Pony: Dec 28, 2004; Up ta somethin'

FMguru posted:

beep boop administer 200cc of blood thinner to a patient suffering internal bleeding

could totally see this being the conclusion the neural net comes up with due to people who survived bleeding incidents often being administered anticoagulants earlier in the day.

I mean the anticoagulants were what caused the bleeding problem in the first place but the neural net just sees the correlation and has no capability to understand the actual causal relationship.

# ? Aug 29, 2018 21:39

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1034907478566359041?s=19

# ? Aug 29, 2018 22:06

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

exploded mummy posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1034907478566359041?s=19

oh my god this is amazing

# ? Aug 29, 2018 22:13

Chris Knight: Jun 5, 2002; me @ ur posts; Fun Shoe

ate all the Oreos posted:

remember that time it thought toronto was a US city?

that, but ebola

there's a Toronto Ohio and a Toronto Kansas

# ? Aug 29, 2018 22:14

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

exploded mummy posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1034907478566359041?s=19

oh hell yes bring back the fairness doctrine

# ? Aug 29, 2018 22:16

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

what a loving dumbass

# ? Aug 29, 2018 22:16

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TerminalRaptor: Nov 6, 2012; Mostly Harmless

Cocoa Crispies posted:

machine learning fetishists, diagnose this!

*shits on a rack of GPUs*

Ah the S3 virge technique

# ? Aug 29, 2018 22:21

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