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ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007



Jamwad Hilder posted:

the Rangers are going to trade him to Boston and we're going to get to see jerseys that say Ril. Nash and Ric. Nash

Because the NHL is a joyless entity, they'd just do "Nash" and "R. Nash" like the Hossas used to do.

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Thufir
May 19, 2004

"The fucking Mayans were right."

He's going to get traded to Nashville and the "LOL 'Nash-Ville'" takes will be insufferable.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Again, Torts took him to a very high mountain and showed him Nationwide and all its splendor.

"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will lay down and block for me." -Jackets 15:16



What would the asking price for Nash be for a rental? Prospect and/or pick?

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007

If loving you is binturong, I don't want to binturight.

Prospect and a 1-2nd rounder, I'd imagine. He's gonna command a pretty good price.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006



Take what he's realistically worth, and add a 1st rounder plus a prospect to it.

JoelJoel
Nov 4, 2011



Rangers going to eat most of that salary, right? Can't be that many potential contenders with 8 mil sitting around unused.

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007

He's the best mindfuck yet



If only there were a competent young left handed defenseman that the Capitals could have kept instead of trotting Orpik's corpse out there 20 minutes a night.



edit: also lolling at how you can pinpoint exactly when Carlson was unburdened from Orpik.

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011

I'm not fat I'm big buffed


Is Nash playing as badly as his numbers suggest? 25 points in 52 games is pretty garbage

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007



JoelJoel posted:

Rangers going to eat most of that salary, right? Can't be that many potential contenders with 8 mil sitting around unused.

He's very manageable for pretty much any playoff team at 50% retained ($3.9M yearly - around $1.3M prorated from the deadline). He's a UFA at the end of the year so there's no long term commitment. If Nash is really on the market, the bidding for him should be pretty fierce.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

JEG VILLE KLEMME DEG


JoelJoel posted:

Rangers going to eat most of that salary, right? Can't be that many potential contenders with 8 mil sitting around unused.

Yep. They'll retain 50%. There's even talk about retaining 50% on McD.

I don't want him to go to NSH because gently caress the preds even though PK is cool. Their dumb hate boner for Vesey is really dumb because hes not a very good player.

Thufir
May 19, 2004

"The fucking Mayans were right."

Matt Zerella posted:

Their dumb hate boner for Vesey is really dumb because hes not a very good player.

I think most people are over it.

Weaponized Autism
Mar 26, 2006

All aboard the Gravy train!

I'd be okay with any Ranger leaving aside from grabner, zucc, and hank. It'd suck to see McDonagh go but I'm pretty sure his body is just held together by duct tape at this point.

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

"Hot dog, I love Pittsburgh! No more Steve Simmons, he was the wurst!"


I have a hard time imagining Nash getting traded within the Metro, and maybe even Eastern Conference, given how NHL GMs seem to work.

I don't know anything about what these teams could give up in terms of prospects or picks, or whether they might be on Nash's trade list, or if Nash is the type of player they'd want to get at the deadline, but I could see almost any Western playoff team being interested. And with Nash being a UFA this offseason, I'm guessing NYR would be willing to retain a decent amount of salary if they can get a good return of prospects and/or picks.

WPG, SJS, NSH and LAK are all currently in a playoff position and have some cap space, and CGY is right there... STL and MIN seem to have less cap space* but maybe could work something out. I could see any of those teams seeing themselves as deadline buyers, so who knows.


*Caveat: I don't understand CapFriendly's deadline cap space projection

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

I'm here to kiss tittiess and win football games!


Pillbug

He'll get traded to the Leafs for Marleau.

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

HEY LITTLE SIDNEY WANT TO SEE MY CORSI?


DJExile posted:

Prospect and a 1-2nd rounder, I'd imagine. He's gonna command a pretty good price.

Definitely gets a 1st I think unless a real good prospect is part of it.

I imagine a 1st and a decent prospect, or a real good prospect and a 2nd-ish

Then agian I"ll probably be wrong and they'll trade him for a 2nd rounder and an AHLer

ThinkTank posted:

He's very manageable for pretty much any playoff team at 50% retained ($3.9M yearly - around $1.3M prorated from the deadline). He's a UFA at the end of the year so there's no long term commitment. If Nash is really on the market, the bidding for him should be pretty fierce.

Yeah salary really shouldn't be an issue since he's a pending UFA and all, but if the Rangers are gonna get screwed on this deal it's gonna be that everyone says "well he's overpaid so we don't want to give you that much in return for him" which is dumb but that's sports

I'd honestly love to have him back next year on a reasonable deal

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007

If loving you is binturong, I don't want to binturight.

Sharks Eat Bear posted:

I have a hard time imagining Nash getting traded within the Metro

Yeah this part I really can't see, partly because the whole "never trade in the division" thing, partly also because I can't see anyone with the space for him.

heeheex2
Sep 5, 2012

Go Cats

Question for canucks fans living in Vancouver: do you still remember all the words to the east side Mario’s commercial from 2011

I do

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

JEG VILLE KLEMME DEG


I think the No Metro idea only apples to Zucc or McD. Everyone else is on an expiring contract.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007



heeheex2 posted:

Question for canucks fans living in Vancouver: do you still remember all the words to the east side Mario’s commercial from 2011

I do

In a million years future generations figure out how to download the lone undamaged fragment of information from my mummified brain, it'll be that jingle overlaid on a clip of Marchand scoring in game 7.

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007

If loving you is binturong, I don't want to binturight.

https://twitter.com/JoshYohe_PGH/st...572145284927491

rip horny

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

"Hot dog, I love Pittsburgh! No more Steve Simmons, he was the wurst!"



rick nash to PIT

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
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Tailored Sauce posted:

I'd be okay with any Ranger leaving aside from grabner, zucc, and hank. It'd suck to see McDonagh go but I'm pretty sure his body is just held together by duct tape at this point.

grabner is like the top guy they should trade, as much as i love him

i'll be mad if they trade skjei or buch (or chytil or lias, but i don't see that happening) and sad if they trade zucc (but will understand). henrik wouldn't make sense to trade at this point so he can stay. everyone else can get out






also fire av (and ruff and arniel)

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008



gently caress

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

Do you not want your hotdog?
(pause)
I'll keep it for you.
(pause)
I thought you were going to leave me.

Fun Shoe


not my horny

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004



DJExile posted:

Yeah this part I really can't see, partly because the whole "never trade in the division" thing, partly also because I can't see anyone with the space for him.

I mean, the Devils definitely do and Lou isn't there to hold the vendetta even if it's still unlikely.

There's no way I'd want them to trade their first though.

T-Bone fucked around with this message at Feb 5, 2018 around 18:13

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 17, 2007

surfin usa

I do think Boston makes a pitch for Nash. They have the pieces to make it happen and I think he'd be a good fit for the middle 6. Depends what NY is asking for I guess. I'm sure it's "A 1st + good prospects" and that seems like too much. That's paying for what he used to be and not what he is now.

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007

He's the best mindfuck yet


Grabner is another guy the Capitals should take a look at because Washington is a slow as poo poo team and they could use a speedy dude like that.

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES


grabner rules and we should absolutely trade him and get assets for the future

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007

If loving you is binturong, I don't want to binturight.

https://twitter.com/NHLFlyers/status/960581722487345152

oh thank loving god

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

HEY LITTLE SIDNEY WANT TO SEE MY CORSI?


Jamwad Hilder posted:

I do think Boston makes a pitch for Nash. They have the pieces to make it happen and I think he'd be a good fit for the middle 6. Depends what NY is asking for I guess. I'm sure it's "A 1st + good prospects" and that seems like too much. That's paying for what he used to be and not what he is now.

Remember when Guastad was worth a 1st rounder just to win a few faceoffs?

Deadline deals are..."different". Ultimately it'll depend on how much demand their is and whether the Rangers can play multiple teams off each other, but a 1st and a prospect for a guy who can play in all situations, generate his own scoring chances, drive play and score some goals if he gets on a hot streak isn't an insane ask if a team is willing to go all in for a run

Or you have like the Eric Staal trade, two 2nds and a good but not top tier prospect, could see something along those lines too depending on draft position etc

e: the hot take now though is that Tampa is interested in McDonagh

I don't even know what I'd want the Rangers to get from Tampa as I have a hard time seeing them willing to give up Sergechev

e2:
https://twitter.com/stevezipay/stat...581828041158658

Goddammit

Levitate fucked around with this message at Feb 5, 2018 around 18:46

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 17, 2007

surfin usa

Levitate posted:

a 1st and a prospect for a guy who can play in all situations, generate his own scoring chances, drive play and score some goals if he gets on a hot streak isn't an insane ask if a team is willing to go all in for a run

Or you have like the Eric Staal trade, two 2nds and a good but not top tier prospect, could see something along those lines too depending on draft position etc

Yeah, a B-level prospect plus either a first or a mix of picks seems about right. My gut feeling is that Nash's perceived value is higher than that though, and it wouldn't surprise me if NY is asking for more and a team ponies up. You can never tell with NHL GMs at the deadline.

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

HEY LITTLE SIDNEY WANT TO SEE MY CORSI?


Jamwad Hilder posted:

Yeah, a B-level prospect plus either a first or a mix of picks seems about right. My gut feeling is that Nash's perceived value is higher than that though, and it wouldn't surprise me if NY is asking for more and a team ponies up. You can never tell with NHL GMs at the deadline.

The no trade list could limit what kind of market they can get for him but who knows. Nash is still a really good player it's just that the chances he generates don't go in the net as often as they used to pretty much. I think he'd be a great add for a team wanting some better depth and flexibility in their lineup for a serious cup run

Wonderllama
Mar 15, 2003



Levitate posted:

e: the hot take now though is that Tampa is interested in McDonagh

I don't even know what I'd want the Rangers to get from Tampa as I have a hard time seeing them willing to give up Sergechev

Your boy Drury was in the ‘cuse, so I wonder if it’s AHL talent. We have Stephens (AHL player of the month), Erne, cernak, masin, and WJC supastar Joseph. No real blue chips, so it’ll probably be quantity over quality.

That said tampa has hedman, sergachev, coburn, and koekkoek on the left side. And Dotchin playing first pairing on the right side. Can’t imagine macky D as Tampa’s first choice to help their defensive core.

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

This Red Text Is Brought To You By The Fact That Paul Stastny Had To Go To FUCKING WINNIPEG To Get A Shot At A Stanley Cup.

P.S. Missouri is full of nothing but meth and so am I.


Fun Shoe

just noticed that sergachev is currently outscoring drouin


lol

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

Don't you know there ain't no devil, its just God when he's drunk.


Grimey Drawer

Levitate posted:

Remember when Guastad was worth a 1st rounder just to win a few faceoffs?

Deadline deals are..."different". Ultimately it'll depend on how much demand their is and whether the Rangers can play multiple teams off each other, but a 1st and a prospect for a guy who can play in all situations, generate his own scoring chances, drive play and score some goals if he gets on a hot streak isn't an insane ask if a team is willing to go all in for a run

Or you have like the Eric Staal trade, two 2nds and a good but not top tier prospect, could see something along those lines too depending on draft position etc

e: the hot take now though is that Tampa is interested in McDonagh

I don't even know what I'd want the Rangers to get from Tampa as I have a hard time seeing them willing to give up Sergechev

e2:
https://twitter.com/stevezipay/stat...581828041158658

Goddammit


Rangers are missing the playoffs so his son wouldn’t get to cheer for the Rangers either way.

“Sorry son, but you can’t cheer for the Rangers because Daddy only scored 25 points.”

LumpyGumby
Feb 22, 2012

What, Me, Corsi?


Send Nash to Colorado. We have the picks, the prospects, the cap space, and DESPERATELY need depth. Why not eh?

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES


LumpyGumby posted:

Send Nash to Colorado. We have the picks, the prospects, the cap space, and DESPERATELY need depth. Why not eh?

nash for rantanen

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

HEY LITTLE SIDNEY WANT TO SEE MY CORSI?


LumpyGumby posted:

Send Nash to Colorado. We have the picks, the prospects, the cap space, and DESPERATELY need depth. Why not eh?

works for me, who do we call to make this official

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

JEG VILLE KLEMME DEG


Whoever gets Rick, please be nice. I know he's gotten a lot of shot over the years because of goals/money but the dude plays his rear end off and is underrated on the PK and along the boards.

It really sucks the rangers are selling off their cool and good guys and I'd totally be down for a second tour with Rick at less money this offseason.

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CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Again, Torts took him to a very high mountain and showed him Nationwide and all its splendor.

"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will lay down and block for me." -Jackets 15:16



Sharks Eat Bear posted:

I have a hard time imagining Nash getting traded within the Metro, and maybe even Eastern Conference, given how NHL GMs seem to work.

DJExile posted:

Yeah this part I really can't see, partly because the whole "never trade in the division" thing, partly also because I can't see anyone with the space for him.

Matt Zerella posted:

I think the No Metro idea only apples to Zucc or McD. Everyone else is on an expiring contract.

Columbus trades Derick Brassard, Derek Dorsett, John Moore, and a pick to NYR for Marian Gaborik, Blake Parlett, and a pick
Columbus trades Steve Mason to Philadelphia for Michael Leighton and a 3rd
Columbus trades RJ Umberger to Philadelphia for Scott Hartnell
Carolina trades Eric Staal to NYR for stuff.

The first two were while Columbus was still in the West but it was known they were moving East, but you get the idea.

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