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Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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1.B
2.D
3.B
4.B
5.A


An angel who lusts for power Falling on the eve of one of (if not the) most pivotal events in modern history? Yes please, let's gently caress history up 7 ways to Sunday so we come out empowered by the new world order and dethrone God.

Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at Feb 3, 2018 around 00:35

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Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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I'll admit "get the US to ignore Pearl Harbor" is one of the most ambitious plans I have ever heard.

If you want the Nazis to win (which, no, bad, do not do this) you're gonna have to:
1) Get them to break their alliance with the Japanese (actually, this hasn't been formed yet so you just need to prevent it in the first place)
2) Convince them not to invade the USSR, and also somehow convince the Soviets not to come crush them a few years later
3) Somehow get the Brits to surrender early so the war is over before Pearl Harbor, which may or may not happen in the first place due to butterflies from all this
4) Somehow turn the US sympathetic towards them, while you have the vehemently anti-Nazi FDR in power, during the peak of the American leftist movement

To accomplish these massive re-writings of history, you have to build up an unmatched level of global influence in less than four years, the sooner the better, with whatever we have in our angel pockets when we hit the ground and nothing else.


So, uh, probably not?

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Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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If you want to play Ahistorical World Hegemon Builder the Soviets are a much better choice, helping them do better during WWII/the early Cold War and/or nudging the US towards being much friendlier with them than historically is gonna be WAY easier than somehow making the Nazis win. Plus spreading glorious humanist atheist socialism is very much in line with our whole "Fell because of empathy and gently caress God" thing (note: make sure Stalin loses the power struggle going on right now if you still wanna be the good guy)

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Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Outrail posted:

Any way it'd be feasible to run a scare/smear campaign to make America feel like pearl harbour is a festering freeloading stone around americas neck, and letting it go would be a good thing?

This is borderline impossible, Pearl Harbor is one of the most strategically vital naval bases on the entire planet and the gateway to America's Pacific empire which pretty much nobody outside the socialists and some super hardcore isolationists feel like giving up.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Buffing up the US left is probably the easiest ahistorical route to take, seeing as it's the Depression and we landed in an industrial city with a relatively solid labor movement. The Cold War being between the Soviet flavor of socialism and the American flavor of socialism would be an interesting twist. Also, yes, Churchill delenda est.

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Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Killing Hitler is extremely cool and good and I support it as part of almost any plan just on principle. It would butterfly poo poo to hell and back but that's rather the point.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Yeah I'm not too familiar either but the general concept seems to be that we need to maintain our cover as a normal human above all else lest God/some angels come eat us, so outright becoming the demon-king of humanity is totally off the table. But OTOH we're also driven by our quest for our perfect world ("Hell", I think is the terminology), so the core mechanic of the game is balancing the pursuit of your goals with maintaining your cover. Directly becoming the ruler of humanity is a no-no, but covertly pushing world events towards what we want instead of what God wants is the purpose of the game.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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1. We were sent to raise a great storm, and Fell upon seeing the suffering we had wrought.
2. D, a traditional angel
3. C, The Saboteurs, no gods no masters smash it all
4. A
5. C, F, D

I like the whole "builders" aspect of the Tempters but their whole hat there is building their own Hell far away, not saving all the humans we're empathetic with here and now.

Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at Feb 5, 2018 around 03:50

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Oh my god a tabletop gaming group is the perfect cover for talking about shady demon poo poo.

Also, changing from Dust Bowl to Huey Long

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Actually, on second thought, we're a psychopomp, shaping vast natural disasters is far more our thing than killing one dude.

Changing from Huey Long back to Dust Bowl

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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1. B

2. No Gods, No Masters
Humans are wondrous creatures, they never fail to surprise us with their ingenuity and vitality. But they are victims of their Creator. God is broken, thrashing wildly in pursuit of a "plan" that we suspect even It does not know. It must be destroyed, and humanity put on a path that maximizes their flourishing. Hell is where God is dead and a compassionate humanity controls their own fate.

3. D

4. B, C

5. Mrs. Johnson

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Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Can In My Pocket extend to containers/bags we regularly carry with us? Magical pockets are great already but a magical satchel bag or backpack would be awesome.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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That is incredibly powerful

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Switching my vote for name from Mrs. Johnson to Ms. Sunshine (I missed the part about it usually being a noun, I thought I was being very clever with my Shadowrun reference).

Also, officially voting for
Authorized
In My Pocket
Like I Built It
Data Retrieval


Use our Authorized to walk into a major internet/fiber optic nexus, use Data Retrieval to read the emails of half the planet. Or just use In My Pocket or Raw Material to get ourselves a copy of the hard drive/phone/whatever of the person we're spying on and go through it. Demons are OP as gently caress.

Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at Feb 8, 2018 around 19:55

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Raw Material is a really good backup for either large objects/things we can't conceivably pull out of our bag or if we get knocked out and wake up naked in a dingy room with no pockets and need to materialize a key. If magically always having what we need is gonna be a core part of our playstyle, I want to make sure it's as wide-reaching as possible.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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jagadaishio posted:

Of the three, I like Dust and Ink. Can I can an anti-vote against Brown?

Vote for Little Miss Sunshine it's funny and good

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Hrm, true. I'll swap Raw Materials out for LIBI

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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We can pull anything out of a bag as long as it would fit inside and nobody has seen that it was not in the bag earlier. So if we just have a secret bag nobody ever sees inside of we can just reach in and pull out a fully armed nuclear warhead.

Our meat-form probably gets radiation sick, though, if we want to gently caress around with real hazmat poo poo we'd have to go demon form.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Diogines posted:

What about anitmatter? Or a brick of strange-quarks?

As long as nobody has empirically established that we don't have a thing, we can pull it out. So just don't let anyone look in our Magical Bag of Strange-Quarks and we're golden.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Antimatter, 100%. A pound of antimatter is gonna glass the city, a pound of neutronium will just be a tiny speck that burrows to the center of the Earth and does nothing. Now, a *liter* of neutronium could get interesting....

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Yeah if you want a liter of antimatter and a liter of neutronium, or even a liter of antineutronium, then things get fun.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Summoning a "pound" of antihydrogen while in microgravity/with our gravitational frame of reference set to like the Andromeda galaxy and vaporizing the solar system would be one hell of a way to smash all the local Infrastructure, if nothing else. It has to be able to fit in our bag/pocket, though.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Diogines posted:

Some very, very, very sloppy math says that we would need like 400,000 kg of antimatter to destroy the planet. It is very volatile stuff, but the planet is also very big.

Yeah, sure, I was just imagining what fuckery you could get up to by asking for weight instead of mass. If you ask for a "pound" of antimatter as weighed by the gravitational force exerted on it by a tiny speck of dust on the other side of the universe, for example, we're gonna get an IMMENSE amount of antimatter spewing out of our bag.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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A D, potential new recruit and a job.

• Who did you share part of yourself with when you first Fell?
-Carl Skoglund, a labor organizer and pillar of the community that our original Cover happened to fall in with

• Who doesn’t know, but suspects you’re not human?
-Some creepy internet troll who frequents our comment sections that we know only as "Justler3001". They sound like a raving conspiracy theorist to anyone who's sane but, well, we really are a demon. Not in the traditional Christian way they seem to mean, of course, but still.

• Who could give you up to the angels right now, if they really wanted to?
-The ring, obviously. Better make sure we stay good friends.

• Who thinks they have something on you, when all they really have is smoke and mirrors?
-Sandie Gilchrist, our rear end in a top hat neighbor. She's somehow gotten it into her head that we're dealing drugs out of our apartment. Her dog is really nice, though.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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What exactly does "pinging" with Aether entail? Would it cost us Aether that we'd then have to replenish somewhere, and would it be detectable by others in the area?

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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1. C, Hell involves literally killing God, makes sense that the power what lets us break machines is a key part of that.

Gantolandon posted:

2. Wilhelm "Billy" Sager, a German worker who left his country to avoid being drafted during the Great War. He was a daytaler, wandering through the Midwest and looking for jobs to stay afloat. Wherever he went, Dust Bowl followed. After the Fall, the Cover turned out to be pretty useful - staying low is a good way to avoid the agents of the Machine and it turned out to be pretty easy to patch and swap. After all, there is always plenty of desperate vagabonds willing to make a Pact
3. A.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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MinutePirateBug posted:

3. D Oh look you conveniently have a pocket sized drone. Use the aerial drone to scout out the area then jump the fence or ping.

Oh, loving duh, of course we've got a little quadcopter in our bag.

Switching from A to this

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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NinjaPete posted:

Huh..weird. He seems to be by himself.

Aw poo poo. They're not a cop, time to bug out.

malbogio posted:

1)B.

Yank the phone battery. Turn invisible. Sneak away ASAP.

This feels like enemy action. Best get out before they tighten the noose.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Yeah in smaller towns and rural areas single-man patrols are very common and even the norm because of budget/manpower restraints, but in a moderately sized city like St. Paul, at night, about 75% of patrols would be two-man. The fact that one single dude just happened to show up right here right now is highly suspicious.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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How exactly do you define "machine"? A powergaming knave of low character could rules lawyer that the sculpture is really just a bunch of levers and screws stuck together and those are both simple machines....

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Ah, yeah, just in case it's not clear I'm officially voting for B, plus yanking the phone's battery

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Mabin needs to sleep and doing suspicious things like staying out until 4 AM on a weeknight or whatever may not be the best for our cover

Crazycryodude
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D A A C

Checking out the other sculptures seems like a good idea, it shouldn't take too long and it fits our cover fine.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Wait did we really manage to live in the United States of America for almost a century, especially back in the mid-20th, and never touch a gun? Or is it just that Mabin has never had one?

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

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Oh we totally need to learn how to shoot if we can fit it in. Mabin and Ink both aren't really combat characters, but when you're playing spy games with Literally God it's almost negligent not to know how to just in case.

Crazycryodude
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It doesn't have to be illegal, Minnesota gun laws are hilariously loose. If we keep it at home there's no permit required whatsoever, and if we want to carry all it takes is filling out one form at the local sheriff's office and we're authorized to buy as many guns as we want and carry them wherever/whenever we want for 5 years. It's pretty scary, actually, but we might as well take advantage of it.

Now, you're basically guaranteed to get the permit if you're a white dude, but being a brown woman who regularly stirs up poo poo with the Powers That Be may get us denied. Even if we can't legally carry in public or buy more, though, there are zero laws preventing us from keeping the gun in our home/transporting it to the range to learn how to shoot. Walking around town strapped is probably a bad idea anyways, but Mabin/Ink really should just in general know how to shoot and have a gun stashed away just in case.

Moscow Rules: 10 - Keep your options open.

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Crazycryodude
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Facebook Aunt posted:

Oh, America, why you so crazy? In canada even the mace would be illegal. Probably the claws too, since they are concealed.

JesterOfAmerica posted:

Oh poo poo I didn't know MN was that loose

And Minnesota is stricter than ~30% of the country. There are 16 states where gun laws basically just don't exist, almost anybody not a felon can concealed carry a firearm in any public space, with zero permits/background checks/whatever.

Anyways, I don't want to poo poo up the thread with gun control chat, but the TL;DR is that guns are hilariously easy to buy/possess in the United States, and if we're gonna be playing spy games with God it makes sense to take advantage of that.

Crazycryodude
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1. A Smith and Wesson M&P 2.0, modern, good ergonomics and safety features, and above all pretty common so it won't raise any eyebrows.

2. A

3. A

4. I like the "blink exactly every three seconds" glitch

Crazycryodude
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You know, looking at the map, I agree that it's probably something to do with the bridge. I didn't think they lined up so perfectly, but knowing that they do I think we should investigate more and try to find the local linchpin rather than temporarily break some Infrastructure that'll just get rebuilt, possibly in a less easy to investigate form. Changing from 2. A to 2. B

E: Looking at the map even more, there's an old steam plant just to the south that used to help power the Ford factory. Could "the heart of the fire" be the boilers or the firebox or whatever in there?

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