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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Oh, brilliant.

We have a new Doctor! And she's falling to her death! Oh no! Presumably, the Doctor survives the fall (because it would be very stupid to have a regeneration last about 90 seconds of life) to go on adventures with three companions, all of which are certainly people named Graham, Ryan, and Yasmin. Doctor Who returns in...the Autumn? That's kind of a ways away. There's not much going on right now with regards to Doctor Who-related TV as the show is currently being filmed, and there's no spin-off or animated reconstruction announced for 2018. It's a hiatus thread, alright!

So...yeah. The problem with the time between 'Doctor regenerates' and 'new Doctor has a show' is that there is nothing involving the new Doctor in non-TV material. No comics, no books, no nothing. You can hear all the old Doctors do radio dramas, but we'll get to that later. For now, though, we'll discuss how writer x is terrible and ruined Doctor Who forever, only for writer y to write a Big Finish script that redeems Doctor Who. Oh, and don't ask about how the thread got its subtitle.

The previous thread can be found here. Now for the formalities.

NO SPOILERS
By edict of the moderators, this is a SPOILER-FREE ZONE. Other than backstage stuff (hiring people), DO NOT POST SPOILERS. AT ALL. Even if the Washington Post reveals video of Donald Trump handing a big stack of government secrets to Vladimir Putin and one of the papers is labeled 'Martha Jones is a Rutan', DON'T POST IT HERE. If you must post about spoilers, go to the spoiler thread. Episode titles can be spoiler-y, so use discretion when discussing episodes yet to air. For example, 'Hide' doesn't spoil anything, but 'OH poo poo IT'S THE DALEKS' does.

WHERE DO I START?
If you want to start with the revival, you should start with The Pilot. This doesn't mean to disregard the nine series from 2005-2016, but it's a good getting-on point. If you want to watch the original series, there are plenty of places to start. You COULD start with An Unearthly Child and watch everything in chronological order. You could also watch individual serials of all the Doctors and determine which you like the best. Keep in mind, don't shotgun a whole Hartnell or Troughton in one go, or else you'll get complacent. Those 60's episodes are meant to be seen one at a time, and if you only just rented the DVD, wait a few hours between episodes.

The most popular serials for the original series you can jump into are:

First Doctor: An Unearthly Child, The Aztecs
Second Doctor: The Tomb of the Cybermen, The Enemy of the World
Third Doctor: Spearhead from Space, Carnival of Monsters
Fourth Doctor: Pyramids of Mars, The Robots of Death
Fifth Doctor: Kinda, Frontios
Sixth Doctor: Vengeance on Varos, Revelation of the Daleks
Seventh Doctor: Dragonfire, Remembrance of the Daleks

WHERE CAN I WATCH DOCTOR WHO?
If you're an American, you're in luck! You can watch the original run of Doctor Who both on TV (Retro TV and some PBS stations) and online (via BritBox*)! Canadians get BritBox, too. If you're not North American scum, I'm sorry but you'll have to buy or rent the episodes on DVD.

For the current run:

ON TELEVISION
UK - BBC One (first run), Watch
USA - BBC America (first run), most PBS stations
Canada - CTV Sci-Fi
Australia - ABC1 (first run), ABC ME, Syfy

STREAMING
UK - Netflix
USA - Amazon Video
Canada - CraveTV
Australia - Netflix & Stan

*Day of the Daleks, Planet of the Daleks, the Five Doctors, Resurrection of the Daleks, Revelation of the Daleks, and Remembrance of the Daleks are not available, along with almost every serial missing at least one episode.

SHOULD I BUY THE DVDs AND BLU-RAYS?
Just for the bonus features alone.

THE NOT-AT-ALL BRIEF GUIDE TO BIG FINISH
There are hundreds, probably thousands of Doctor Who and Doctor Who-related audio dramas released by Big Finish Productions. This is not a post telling you what audio dramas to listen to, because everyone has an opinion that is different from everyone else (some people like Minuet in Hell, believe it or not). This is a post telling you the basic info on the different series of titles there are. I'm only covering ongoing ranges, since devoting a paragraph to the Stage Plays seems a bit silly. If you're wondering why I'm about to spend a good portion of the OP about audio dramas, you are clearly new to the Doctor Who thread.

The Monthly Range
Since 1999, Big Finish have released, on a consistent basis, mostly standalone stories featuring the Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh (formerly including Eighth) Doctors. Up to 235th(!) release this month.

The Fourth Doctor Adventures
Tom Baker gets his own line of releases.

The New Adventures of Bernice Summerfield
Sylvester McCoy (and later, David Warner) plays a supporting role to Bernice Summerfield, a companion introduced in the Virgin New Adventures line of books.

Novel Adaptations
Based on Virgin New Adventures and Virgin Missing Adventures, the book ranges that lasted Doctor Who fans from 1991 to 1997.

The Eighth Doctor Adventures / Dark Eyes / Doom Coalition / The Eighth Doctor - The Time War / Ravenous
Paul McGann's Doctor also gets his own line. Goons love 'em.

The Tenth Doctor Adventures
David Tennant reprises his role in mini-seasons every chance he can get, and the results are very RTD-like. In a good way!

The Companion Chronicles / The Early Adventures
This is important: SOME OF THESE ARE NOT AUDIO DRAMAS. These are "enhanced audiobooks" for the most part, which means that one person does all the parts while another gives narration, but also contains sound effects and music cues. The Companion Chronicles originally were one-handers, but now may contain small casts, which the Early Adventure always have.

The Ones with Fake Doctors
The First Doctor Adventures, the Third Doctor Adventures, and the Ninth/Tenth/Eleventh Doctor Chronicles feature people who are not the original actors playing the roles of the title Doctor. If you're OK with that, by all means give them a try.

Spinoffs
There are a ton of these, ranging from good (I, Davros) to who gives a poo poo (anything involving a companion from the audio series).

THE TOXXUPATION THREAD WITH A VENGEANCE
It's on hiatus! Watch in amazement as the forums user currently known as Lick! The! Whisk! puts his writing skills to the test in describing his thoughts on the most recent series. They will be wrong.

THE DISCORD
Here it is. The future is now!

So, yeah. That's about it for everything. Not much happened 10 years ago in the Doctor Who threads. So....there you go!

Edward Mass fucked around with this message at Jul 1, 2018 around 19:41

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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Davros1 posted:

OP fails to mention The War Doctor series. Please rectify

Sadly, the series is not ongoing.

Open Source Idiom posted:

Every time we start a new thread (well done btw) I get the feeling we should rewrite a few of those BF recommendations. Some parts are inaccurate (Dorian Gray technically isn't a spinoff, for one) and I think a bit ungenerous.

I wouldn't mind redrafting it, if that's okay with everyone?

I'm going to be honest, I have changed exactly one part of the Spin-offs line since I wrote the original Guide to Big Finish. Maoist Banker added the links to my original guide, and so I assumed Dorian Gray was some spin-off that I knew nothing about. If you want to add depth, go ahead and write one out.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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It's better suited for reaction videos.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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The Curator is just a wise old man who inspires the 11th Doctor. That's about it.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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I am surprised that no one has made a YouTube Poop of the Rosie Ball story mashed with the Curatorís bit.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Still waiting for the English-speaking world to catch up with the Germans on season box sets of the classic series!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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LORD OF BOOTY posted:

do they have English audio

I really don't like new Who but I am a whore for the classic series

They do! This is what I want to get an international release (in English, obviously)

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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I didnít know Twitter existed in the 1980ís.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Big Mean Jerk posted:

Well, this is interesting.

A little more info. I'm not sure why this wouldn't just be a new DVD set since almost everything was shot on video. I guess it might be convenient for Region 1 folks since I'm fairly sure some of these are out of print.

They listened to me

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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There's also the bonus features that aren't on iTunes or Google Play. And classic Doctor Who has a LOT of bonus features per serial.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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More like the Endless River Song.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Oh, hey, BritBox is in Canada now.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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You know what? Get Sophie Aldred on the phone and make a show where Ace blows things up with some kids.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Is it true that the next series starts in October? Are we really waiting another eight months?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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egon_beeblebrox posted:

I bought "Timelash." I expect it to be terrible.

You won't be disappointed!

e: Here, have a pie chart.

Edward Mass fucked around with this message at Feb 26, 2018 around 23:40

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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I misread your post and imagined a Doctor Who/The Wire crossover. I decided against it.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Rhyno posted:

We all were. The SA thread was almost entirely hype and excitement.

Looking through the archives, the reaction to Rose was lukewarm. The episode, not the character. Opinions on the character were....let's just say, unacceptable on the SA Forums in 2018.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Rirse posted:

Bet the old thread had a field day with the burping trash can that ate Mickey.

They thought it was rubbish

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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There was a link to a website called Fapomatic.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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I saw the End of the World before I saw Rose because I forgot what time the Sci-Fi Channel was showing it. Luckily, they replayed that episode afterwards!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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First time I realized Doctor Who was a thing was when I was at a local video rental store and there was a huge rack of VHS Who. I was so enamored, I remember taping the 1996 movie and watching it over and over, mystified by this alien with a British accent. I was seven at the time, so I didnít think the movie was anything but amazing.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Is there really a demand for a new Quantum Leap? Can't we just, you know, have something original?

(I realize I'm saying this in a thread for a show that got revived 16 years after cancellation)

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Well, time to get back to my spec script, then. It's about man's inhumanity to man...in outer space...but everybody acts like it's the 1970s.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Rhyno posted:

Let's be real, there's at least one DW episode sitting in a private collection somewhere that won't ever see the light of day because the owner never talks about it and is also a dick.

I thought Mugabe was ousted.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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I know it's a mock-up, but why are they using the 13th Doctor's logo?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Zaroff posted:

It's apparently a new branding thing - everything has the new logo.

According to one of the Restoration team, the re-release of The Enemy of the World was on hold until they confirmed the new logo.

That seems a bit overboard. What happens when they change the logo again?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Well, I know what IíM asking for my birthday.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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I don't think the BBC would want to fuel a "Not My Doctor" movement.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Considering the Doctor's inconsistency with age (having de-aged between 7 and 9), it's pretty hard to say how long the War Doctor lived.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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I'm sure Chibnall has an "In case of Eccleston, break glass" script planned. If not, he's a fool!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MY DOCTOR?!?!?

: But Rose, I AM your Doctor!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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cargohills posted:

Is there another Sting?

The wrestler.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Wheat Loaf posted:

I think Jago and Litefoot were much more substantial characters in "Talons" (probably because it had six episodes) than Lady Christina was in "Planet of the Dead".

I had forgotten who Lady Christina was, which is a bad sign for a new range. At least Jenny was memorable.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Colemanís kind of a big deal now, what with being Queen Victoria and all that.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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According to Wikipedia, RTD named Jack Harkness, so I'd imagine it's his character.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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I think we're mistaking "significant" for "memorable". You can be a memorable character without being significant.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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And Maggie Q, nonetheless!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Rhyno posted:

Georgina is standing the way of David and Peter's true love.

time_crash_spandau_ballet_true.mp4

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Iíve never watched an episode of TNG on purpose.

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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011



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Bicyclops posted:

RIP Tom Baker in the Koopa Clown car with his friends avatar

What the hell avatars sizes are allowed nowadays? I guess it's time to stick ol' Five in the clown car with his own companions.

180x180, 150mb.

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