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rarbatrol
Apr 17, 2011

Hurt//maim//kill.

In my experience, if you know the track and have a good car (doesn't need to be top 5 but it helps), it comes down to making fewer mistakes than everybody else. If you're especially skilled you can make 1-2 more mistakes and catch up, but boy howdy can that be challenging.

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Mondian
Apr 24, 2007

Allow me to interject. I have been using electronic cigarettes for a few months now. You see, I am an Expert


Otacon posted:

I haven't played much over the past few months, but the meta has not changed - it's about 25% the driver, 25% the car, 25% knowing the track, and 25% luck.

I don't race often, but I'd lower the % of knowing the track and add it to the luck. I'm an ok driver with all the best cars and I'll often place in the top 3, as most pubbies go careening off the track all the time and either bail or DNF because they don't know the ancient secret of slightly slowing down during sharp turns. The hardest part of racing imo is people that ignore the race and gently caress with racers. Last one I did I was winning and some dipshit called me out as a modder and started hanging around chokepoints to ambush me so his rank 5000 buddy could win instead

Anyway, most public lobby racers seem pretty awful. I assume anyone that actually takes it seriously finds a crew and sticks to private lobbies like broughy's?

VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
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Freak Out





The Pariah is so fast that it is actually too fast for most of the stunt races unless you intentionally slow down for the jumps.

Sleekly
Aug 21, 2008

whoop whoop




VectorSigma posted:

The Pariah is so fast that it is actually too fast for most of the stunt races unless you intentionally slow down for the jumps.

Some of the supercars and the Bati or Shotaro bikes just love sailing so high over a checkpoint it counts as a miss

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002




VectorSigma posted:

The Pariah is so fast that it is actually too fast for most of the stunt races unless you intentionally slow down for the jumps.

My favorite bug EVER was when the RE-7B had the collidable spoiler that would push against your suspension, and propel it to 240mph. When everyone owned it, 90% of the racers would miss checkpoints by hundreds of feet.

Mondian posted:

I don't race often, but I'd lower the % of knowing the track and add it to the luck.
Anyway, most public lobby racers seem pretty awful. I assume anyone that actually takes it seriously finds a crew and sticks to private lobbies like broughy's?

You're probably right - keep in mind most people that play GTA Online are 12 years old and have never been behind the wheel of an actual car. If someone is seriously into racing, they're either in a dedicated racing crew or playing Forza.

Katamari Democracy
Jan 18, 2010

Oh, We understand.
A trip to collect a million votes, yes.
Oh, we know why.
We get the point of rolling up a million


Wedge Regret

I'm finally able to solo the Cayo heists. And I am going to try and master it by tonight.

E- Hahahaha. Damnit, I got busted right at the end.

Katamari Democracy fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Feb 23, 2021

Chubbs
Feb 13, 2008

In a thousand years, Gandahar was destroyed. A thousand years ago, Gandahar will be saved, and what can't be avoided will be.

Grimey Drawer

Did you scope out the drainage tunnel entrance at the back of the compound yet? It made such a huge difference for me, and getting that cutting torch makes bolt cutters irrelevant.

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012



Drainage tunnel infil and main dock extract makes Cayo crazy easy. Just do it at night with silenced weapons and sneeki breeki.

Presto
Nov 22, 2002



Floppychop posted:

Drainage tunnel infil and main dock extract makes Cayo crazy easy. Just do it at night with silenced weapons and sneeki breeki.

Find the truck and a guard uniform and waltz in through the main gate.

You'd think they'd learn after a while...

Katamari Democracy
Jan 18, 2010

Oh, We understand.
A trip to collect a million votes, yes.
Oh, we know why.
We get the point of rolling up a million


Wedge Regret

I keep getting caught near the end and have been following a guide to the T. But drat is it hard to pop heads off of people without getting noticed.

Preechr
May 19, 2009

Proud member of the Pony-Brony Alliance for Obama as President


Guards canít hear explosions. If you have difficulty dropping two guards chatting with each other at the same time, use C4. Note that they can, however, see the brick as it comes sailing in, so be quick.

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001



Preechr posted:

Guards canít hear explosions. If you have difficulty dropping two guards chatting with each other at the same time, use C4. Note that they can, however, see the brick as it comes sailing in, so be quick.

One trick for 2 guards at a time is to line up the shot directly through both of them and then you should just be able to shoot-shoot and drop both, instead of having to move aim from one to another

Von Pluring
Sep 19, 2003


Pork Pro

Fart.Bleed.Repeat. posted:

One trick for 2 guards at a time is to line up the shot directly through both of them and then you should just be able to shoot-shoot and drop both, instead of having to move aim from one to another


Another is to use the AP pistol and just spray bullets from one head to the next in a straight line.

Katamari Democracy
Jan 18, 2010

Oh, We understand.
A trip to collect a million votes, yes.
Oh, we know why.
We get the point of rolling up a million


Wedge Regret



Finally

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad


The Great Twist


Congrats! I've only done it with others, where timing the head shots isn't too insane if the person isn't a goofball.

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012



Preechr posted:

Guards canít hear explosions. If you have difficulty dropping two guards chatting with each other at the same time, use C4. Note that they can, however, see the brick as it comes sailing in, so be quick.

loving what, how have I never realized this. For two guards talking I've just been either getting them in a line and double tap, or pop one then when the other stands back up straight pop him.

Katamari Democracy
Jan 18, 2010

Oh, We understand.
A trip to collect a million votes, yes.
Oh, we know why.
We get the point of rolling up a million


Wedge Regret

Floppychop posted:

loving what, how have I never realized this. For two guards talking I've just been either getting them in a line and double tap, or pop one then when the other stands back up straight pop him.

Yeah a guide I watched that a goon did explained that explosives can substitute for certain situations.

Stealth!

Pseudoscorpion
Jul 26, 2011




Katamari Democracy posted:

Yeah a guide I watched that a goon did explained that explosives can substitute for certain situations.

Stealth!

Obligatory shill for my guide: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEOPWiKyvj_dWBLR5GoZwy-AegKY0ujI_

Katamari Democracy
Jan 18, 2010

Oh, We understand.
A trip to collect a million votes, yes.
Oh, we know why.
We get the point of rolling up a million


Wedge Regret

Thats the one I followed! It helped me out minus the frustration of actually doing it.

It's still a great guide and im thankful you made it.

Medullah
Aug 13, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS


Does that mean that explosive sniper rounds are "quiet" too?

Preechr
May 19, 2009

Proud member of the Pony-Brony Alliance for Obama as President


Medullah posted:

Does that mean that explosive sniper rounds are "quiet" too?

Explosive sniper rounds are only used in free roam or heists that do not have a stealth mode, so no.

Chubbs
Feb 13, 2008

In a thousand years, Gandahar was destroyed. A thousand years ago, Gandahar will be saved, and what can't be avoided will be.

Grimey Drawer

Don't know if the guide mentions this, but another good trick (if you took Conspirator loadout) is to slap 4 sticky bombs to Rubio's chopper on your way out of the compound, and then detonate them as soon as he starts coming for you. He'll immediately fly off and it makes escaping a lot easier.

If you don't need/want to get secondary loot after you leave the compound, turn left out the main entrance and walk over to the cliffs and see if there are any patrol boats passing by. If you hijack one, you can motor your way out from there to complete the heist, because the game lets you leave the island from anywhere, not just your exit point. You can even just dive under water and swim the whole way in a pinch.

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001





If you swim/boat to the west its quite a bit quicker to the boundary than if you go south

namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I blew up


For real, I couldnít believe that theyíd let you exit however you wanted to complete the heist. Really good decision by and Iím actually pleasantly surprised

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Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001



namlosh posted:

For real, I couldnít believe that theyíd let you exit however you wanted to complete the heist. Really good decision by and Iím actually pleasantly surprised

This whole Cayo heist is baffling for reasons like this. They've said stuff about adding more single player type jobs into the multiplayer world so that parts not surprising. I think we can expect more similar stunts in the future. I'm usually negative towards heists due to how scripted they are and it feels like the same boss battle over and over(casino) or watching the same movie over and over(OG heists), but I have been enjoying my time with Rubio. Using different entry points and tricks, basing these choices on what I find on the island, etc this one still feels fresh enough to draw me in and spend a night doing it start to finish. Compare to the casino heyday where I could do 1 or 2 in a night and just be exhausted of it and not want to touch it for weeks. I look forward to more open world things like this!


I know some of these are suggestions and should-have's, but still some of the weird design choices I see, not to even get into straight up bugs and common glitches...

The difference in payout for 2/3/4 players only adds ~500k for each person. For example 1 player with necklace is $1m and a full bag of gold adds 500k. Another person? Another 500k bag of gold. In my head, unless you have a couple people each doing preps and then do a few heists where yo ucan appreciate that extra 500k each time... it really dis-incentivizes doing with more than 1 person. Hmmmm 1.5m for 1 person or 2m for 2 people(even at 85/15 split thats just over 1.6m so not much of a bump)? Right

I still have not figured out how to get grappling hooks to show as a valid compound entry. Ive gotten all 4 and have scoped the weak spots, but still it never shows up. I can get the front door to show up if I do the explosive charges prep. Otherwise it's drainage tunnel every time as the available entry

I know it makes it easy on the player to slip out and swim away, but that should not be a valid exit strategy. For an island. In the ocean. I can see if you explicitly were able to choose Sub as exit vehicle, then sure you could swim to a yellow circle somewhere and be 'safe'

Stealing guard uniforms makes the real guards turn a blind eye at the gate, but only if you use this one specific truck. Should be an on-foot entry maybe with a shift change element in the narrative. They already use 'change of guards' to replenish bodies while you are inside the vault room

Returning to the island during a scope? Nope no party for you. Returning in free mode to party? Nope no island exploration for you

Other than possibly 1 or 2 paintings in the office, how is every door in the compound a 2-factor lock? Rubio is going to leave his office door unlocked, but even bedrooms gets a 2 card door? This could MAYBE be chalked up to his ego "Who would ever dare rob me? El Rubio!?" but after a couple daily robberies he ought to rethink his strategy

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