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wit
Jul 26, 2011

Otacon posted:

"The Criminal Enterprises" is the next DLC, dropping on Tuesday July 26.

Update:
https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/25k44k95aa452a/the-criminal-enterprises-coming-july-26-to-gta-online

Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3NBd3UjH5Y

Reminder that our next Family Goon Gaming Night is next weekend on Saturday July 30th. I will be waiting until the DLC drops to determine our theme, hopefully there is some new group stuff we can all try out together!

I will try to put together an image this weekend.

EDIT: Reddit link showing new vehicles from the trailer: https://www.reddit.com/gallery/w4ilif

This kinda sounds like some weekly bonus to businesses rather than an actual DLC. I honestly thought they'd use the agency a bit more. It looked like it was built to be modular for like other musicians to get in on. I dunno if this is enough to get me back into plate spinning businesses while shooting kids on mk2s. I stopped playing a few months ago and by then the only things giving me joy were finding the most efficient cayo routes or parking the sub beside the yacht and firing missiles at jet bastards.

I also thought hao's would have come for the summer to pc. Guess not.

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wit
Jul 26, 2011

namlosh posted:

Cool, this helps.

Evidently another newswire post just dropped. Lots of other stuff both good and bad in this update.

Are the older gen consoles getting this update? Wondering how that works for this one specifically

The major good is rejigging the asinine K/D score. I still to this day don't understand kids bragging about it when absolutely everyone knows it 100% reflects the number of times you've shot some new player in the back and spawn killed them.

wit
Jul 26, 2011
So generally all the tweaks seem to be geared towards 1) Dragging players out of their boring circuit of most $/hour jobs while cayo cools down. 2) Making solo endless grinding quickly have diminished returns, but group play fairly plausible to grind. I'm all for both, honestly. I reckon now that KDR isn't a freemode thing and all the low hanging fruit is gone, cargo griefing will be a massive issue and people might actually need to hire muscle.

Additionally, whoever is in charge of balancing is a legend and they goddamn hate MK2s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyjKHjp5DHI

wit
Jul 26, 2011

Baron von Eevl posted:

I'm fine with nerfing the missiles, but I don't think the defensive measures should have been nerfed. It just makes you a target if you want to use the mk2 to get around easily instead of trolling.

Nah, you absolutely should not be able to just buzz around another player negating everything they throw back at you. Griefers could just hover overhead with impunity, taking their time to line up manual missile shots on players on foot, knowing that they're too fast and close to hitscan consistently but also have a magical ability to turn off any rocket fired at them. MK2s are far too versatile and maneuverable to ever be targets unless - like a lot of mk2 only users - the player never learned how to actually fly them in and out of obstacles.

I have one, but I never use it, it feels horrible, like a a cheat mode rather than a vehicle with proper physics. Sparrow is the workhouse for me in pve, and its only now getting countermeasures. I hope it remains made entirely of paper though.


edit: *Workhorse.

wit fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Jul 26, 2022

wit
Jul 26, 2011

Wowporn posted:

Oh the new spare parts delivery from the bunker actually paid $150k so it's worth doing when it pops up. It went to the ammunation on the west side for this one at least so not that far from the Chumash bunker. The research mission you can launch from calling agent 14 fills the research bar like 25%ish? Cool option but wish it were more.

I think the only new car that looks super enticing to me is the new ruiner cause I like trashy early 90s muscle cars

Is the $150k a first time bonus though?

wit
Jul 26, 2011

Wowporn posted:

They gave me a bunch of guns I never bought and I can't drop them or put them in the gun locker?? All the lazer guns, the navy revolver, ceramic pistol, heavy rifle, the emp pistol... More annoying than cool cause it's clogging up my pistols I already carry too many of around

If you have the agency (I think the kosatka too) you can select what's in your loadout wheel from the locker beside the requisitions officer. There's nothing worse than getting made into swiss cheese while flicking through a catalogue of shotguns on your wheel in the middle of a gunfight.

wit
Jul 26, 2011

Cage posted:

hi im cage!


Ok you guys swayed me on the greenwood.

https://gfycat.com/flashyregalgoldfinch.mp4

Its heavy and slidey.

I'm waiting for TJ Hooker to come around that corner after you.

wit
Jul 26, 2011

explosivo posted:

I've already run some setup missions with it and yeah this is going to be great. Being able to mash E when I get close to the sub to land it is a big plus because the flying controls are rear end for kb+m.
I know this is like 9 years late but absolutely don't touch your mouse while flying and use your num pad.

The amount of times I have limped a sparrow back to the sub and basically guided its fall into the mash E zone and cheated death is unreal.
Also little used but you can do the exact same underneath the sub if you're swimming/in the toreador.

wit
Jul 26, 2011

explosivo posted:

I did realize this but my brain still locks up when I try flying that way. Earlier I tried flying away from some enemies shooting at me with the kb+m instead of picking up my controller and basically flipped on the spot and blew myself up lol.

I get you, I just scraped through the flying parts in the single player game, and the lessons absolutely sucked and did not help. What did help me was just freely flying in a helicopter slowly and deliberately following the motorway and doing a lap of the entire map. I still have small issues with landing planes perfectly, but you can absolutely fly with keyboard.....eventually.

wit
Jul 26, 2011

Wowporn posted:

I rage really hard when a dude in a boat or helicopter domes me through my toreador window and I'm 30 feet underwater, the Kosatka approach vehicle setup mission is annoying

You mean steal the jammer from the other sub? Drive your sub right up to them, up periscope and destroy all the boats and the helicopter with Kosatka.

wit
Jul 26, 2011
Continuing along the speed run tips for cayo prepping. If you get the follow the merryweather chopper mission for weapons, just fly to the docks and blow it up immediately. Even if you get the same mission roll again and blow it up again, its still faster than actually following the thing and doing the skyscraper weapons raid instead.

For the fingerprint cloner mission I noticed an odd glitch. If you stop on the way to the locations and go into an ammunation or clothes store, the act of going through those doors sets off the alarms in the mission locations.

wit
Jul 26, 2011
So metal detecting is also on Cayo. I said it months back, but cayo would be perfect for a little team capture the flag feds v cartel type events. Don't know if the games life cycle will be long enough to warrant another cayo style full map heist update, but its still got legs.

e: Don't know why I said "I said it months back", who the gently caress cares? lol

wit
Jul 26, 2011

Medullah posted:

I'm bummed they didn't do the private session change earlier. My group would have loved it, but unfortunately we haven't spoken to one of the guys since 1/6/21 when he told the group chat how excited he was that "they're going to start murdering Dems and they need to start with Pelosi"

In fairness its a shootman crime game, if you'd have said this about your stardew valley buddy I'd raise an eyebrow. I wouldn't normally drop someone for their politics, but that was a good bit of social surgery your group did there.

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wit
Jul 26, 2011

Spaced God posted:

Hi Pals! I've been looking for a new game and I originally played GTA V singleplayer way back in like 2018 but never got into the multi because I heard it was buggy trash. Is it worth getting into this late in the game, and if so is it still a hellscape if you only go in solo with no friends?

Well they've toned down the ability for wankers to mess your poo poo up for no reason lately and there's probably about 100-150 hours of content in the online if you want to private server it. Pubbies are still an absolute cancer and the average player age seems to be like 10yo. The economy kinda got fucky so its nearly impossible to grind missions up to a fun level without knowing what youre getting into. But they kind of throw money at you at the start now to ease that off. I followed this guys tutorials on how to get yourself sort of stable when I started solo and it was a chore for like 10 hours of grind but I can make a mill or so in a play session. Heists are very fun, especially Cayo Perico and if you know what youre doing you can do that whole thing solo.

The big update changes have been very much letting people play it without pubbie servers and hobbling the laziest styles of griefing and trying to get people out of a grinding gameplay loop. So I'd say yeah.

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